Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread

[PhillyFan]

At this point I think Igoudala is almost untouchable. Sure, he's not the go-to guy on offense like everyone wants him to be...but that's not his value to the team. He is our lock down, defensive stopper. He's shown that he can consistently nuetralize his opponents best scorer. And now with Carmelo in the division he becomes that much more important.

So we pay a guy 15mil per to stop one guy. Thats logical...

Just curious. How much did the last ten or so DPOY make

Shutting down the opposing team's best scorer means nothing? That's logical

DPOY of last 10 years: Dwight Howard, Kevin Garnett, Marcus Camby, Ron Artest, and Ben Wallace all earned similar if not bigger contracts compare to Iguodala.

Probably should check your facts before posting to avoid embarassing yourself.

[tgo2223]

At this point I think Igoudala is almost untouchable. Sure, he's not the go-to guy on offense like everyone wants him to be...but that's not his value to the team. He is our lock down, defensive stopper. He's shown that he can consistently nuetralize his opponents best scorer. And now with Carmelo in the division he becomes that much more important.

So we pay a guy 15mil per to stop one guy. Thats logical...

Just curious. How much did the last ten or so DPOY make

Shutting down the opposing team's best scorer means nothing? That's logical

DPOY of last 10 years: Dwight Howard, Kevin Garnett, Marcus Camby, Ron Artest, and Ben Wallace all earned similar if not bigger contracts compare to Iguodala.
Probably should check your facts before posting to avoid embarassing yourself.

First off i asked a question genius. I did not make a statement which would require facts. And I did NOT say that shutting down the opposing teams best scorer means nothing. I was alluding to paying 15mil to do so is illogical. Maybe you should sharpen your reading comprehension skills before posting to avoid embarassing yourself.

DH12 and Garnett are effective on both ends of the floor which makes them way more effective than Iggy and worth the money.

Ron Artest made $5,473,684 for the 03-04 season. Thats less than 6Mil.

Ben Wallace was a complete game changer on the defensive end and anchored the pistons defense to a championship and a hand full of ECF appearances.

Marcus Camby Made 8.8mil the year he won DPOY. And hes a big man, big men usually get paid more. But he still made far less then Iggy's making.

Another thing. These guys actually WON the award

Oh and before I go, this post contains actual facts unlike your post. So yet again to avoid embarrassing yourself you should check your facts before posting.

[sixerswillrule]

Is Iguodala overpaid? Yes

Is Iguodala severely overpaid? No

Is Iguodala one of the best defensive wings in the league? Yes

Is defense all Iguodala provides? No

[Mik317]

Why the **** is this thread still active?

You know what, I want Iggy gone so we can move on to other things but no then it'll be something dumb like Thad is holding back Turner.

Just a quick question but name a few guys that aren't on their rookie contracts or are in the same age-range as Iggy that are better than him but gets paid less.

Just wondering because if he's better than guys like Deng then shouldn't he get paid more too?

Ellis might be the only guy that I think Iggy makes more than but is worse than...but then again Ellis had that moped incident too.

Just wondering.

[PhillyFan]

First off i asked a question genius. I did not make a statement which would require facts. And I did NOT say that shutting down the opposing teams best scorer means nothing. I was alluding to paying 15mil to do so is illogical. Maybe you should sharpen your reading comprehension skills before posting to avoid embarassing yourself.

DH12 and Garnett are effective on both ends of the floor which makes them way more effective than Iggy and worth the money.

Ron Artest made $5,473,684 for the 03-04 season. Thats less than 6Mil.

Ben Wallace was a complete game changer on the defensive end and anchored the pistons defense to a championship and a hand full of ECF appearances.

Marcus Camby Made 8.8mil the year he won DPOY. And hes a big man, big men usually get paid more. But he still made far less then Iggy's making.

Another thing. These guys actually WON the award

Oh and before I go, this post contains actual facts unlike your post. So yet again to avoid embarrassing yourself you should check your facts before posting.

Making baseless accusations, then later claiming he was merely raising a question, require no facts? Yes.

All of these players were playing with better talents than Iguodala? Yes.

People who wins DPOY are usually on a better team without someone like Hawes or Meeks as your starters? HELL YES.

Iguodala provides nothing else but defense? Only if you are SJSF you would believe that ****.

If I am guilty of missing my facts on Ron Artest, you are equally guilty of stretching your point by saying we pay Iguodala $15 mil to play defense.

He's been earning $11, 12, and $13 mil this year since signing the contract extension. He is not earning $15 mil until his final year (player option).

[sixerswillrule]

Wallace and Martin are close. Granger is a little better.
Iguodala's contract looks bad over the last 3 years because it's escalating. He was fairly paid or underpaid for his first 3 years. He'll be slightly overpaid but really not by that much when you compare him to everyone else(not just the underpaid guys mentioned above...)

[Mik317]

Martin is made of glass and brings nothing else ( also doesn't win but...considering our record I can't say ****). Wallace and Iggy are on the same level.

Granger, yeah. Granger and Iggy on the same squad would be awesome...atleast It was on 2k.

Good times good times.

But seriously whether or not we should've traded Iggy doesn't matter much now. There were no good moves to make. You don't make a move just to make a move. I this very thread there are a lot of we must trade Iggy posts without any actual trade ideas behind it. If all we are going to get for Iggy is trash then why trade him? Because Turner MIGHT be good? That's asking for failure.

Sure we won't contend this year or the next probably. and yeah perhaps we are heading back to mediocre town but unless there is a move that gets back good prospects and a pick or two we shouldn't trade Iggy just because. Turner hasn't show enough yet to get rid of one of our better players for him. I don't want to hear that he hasn't had a chance, I trust Doug enough to know whether or not dude is ready...hell Turner himself seems to agree that this is the right way to do things.

So chillax and enjoy our short playoff run for what it is. Don't worry about what we should have done because unless there was a move that was worthy, we made the right choice in not making a move. This summer if the CBA gets done, we might see major movement. If not, deal with it until the right move comes.

and please....please ...please, lets move on to something else until then.

[ZarcMumoff]

I'm happy we didn't move Iggy...look at the Wallace deal. That is essentially the market for Iggy.

B.L.A.H.

[P2K]

TRADE IGUODALA!!! DO IT NOW!!! AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!



ha

[freshie2]

I think you get a little more back for Iguodala than the package for Wallace or what you would get for Granger. Probably best to hold him for now, and maybe you can get a team like Sacramento to give up a draft pick and player as you approach the draft...still think he has to be part of the rebuilding by the assets you can acquire for him, but they are fully invested in this playoff run and trading him for little return made no sense.

[tgo2223]

First off i asked a question genius. I did not make a statement which would require facts. And I did NOT say that shutting down the opposing teams best scorer means nothing. I was alluding to paying 15mil to do so is illogical. Maybe you should sharpen your reading comprehension skills before posting to avoid embarassing yourself.

DH12 and Garnett are effective on both ends of the floor which makes them way more effective than Iggy and worth the money.

Ron Artest made $5,473,684 for the 03-04 season. Thats less than 6Mil.

Ben Wallace was a complete game changer on the defensive end and anchored the pistons defense to a championship and a hand full of ECF appearances.

Marcus Camby Made 8.8mil the year he won DPOY. And hes a big man, big men usually get paid more. But he still made far less then Iggy's making.

Another thing. These guys actually WON the award

Oh and before I go, this post contains actual facts unlike your post. So yet again to avoid embarrassing yourself you should check your facts before posting.

Making baseless accusations, then later claiming he was merely raising a question, require no facts? Yes.

All of these players were playing with better talents than Iguodala? Yes.

People who wins DPOY are usually on a better team without someone like Hawes or Meeks as your starters? HELL YES.

Iguodala provides nothing else but defense? Only if you are SJSF you would believe that ****.

If I am guilty of missing my facts on Ron Artest, you are equally guilty of stretching your point by saying we pay Iguodala $15 mil to play defense.

He's been earning $11, 12, and $13 mil this year since signing the contract extension. He is not earning $15 mil until his final year (player option).

Im not claiming ****. Now the question didnt have a question mark but it was still a question.

And how do u get off saying i embarrassed myself by asking a question? U just came outta no where and attacked me when the question was just a broad question that anyone coulda answered.

Iggy is an over paid good player. But u dont win championships by over paying good players. The only players that should be over paid for is the great players and a great player iggy is not.

[Klomp]

I suppose its bad timing to offer Beasley/Wolves 1st for Iggy?

[PhillyFan]

Right after he just dunk over Beasley?

[freshie2]

I suppose its bad timing to offer Beasley/Wolves 1st for Iggy?

I was laughed off the Wolves board before the deadline for saying that Iguodala is the perfect fit on that roster, and I still think in the offseason it could be a match. I don't think Beasley and the 1 get it done, but there are enough pieces there that may work. There is a ton of talent on the Wolves roster, unfortunately very few of them play defense. It may seem like overpaying to give up a top 5 pick in exchange for Iguodala, but the Wolves are in a position where they can continue to be a very talented/young team, or they could actually make some moves to bring in players that will help them win. Iguodala is not perfect, but tonight is a perfect example of what he brings to a playoff team.

[HartfordWhalers]

I suppose its bad timing to offer Beasley/Wolves 1st for Iggy?

2011 1st? Assuming the pick is 4-6 I think that gets it done even in 2011 with no problem/extra going back from Philly to Minnesota.

2014 1st? No.

[Lapinski]

I think you get a little more back for Iguodala than the package for Wallace or what you would get for Granger. Probably best to hold him for now, and maybe you can get a team like Sacramento to give up a draft pick and player as you approach the draft...still think he has to be part of the rebuilding by the assets you can acquire for him, but they are fully invested in this playoff run and trading him for little return made no sense.

We are rebuilding now....we have 7 of our top 9 players 24 or younger...5 of those 7 22 or younger...you really can't get much younger and if you do without any veterans that can actually put on a uniform and still play you have the Clippers, the T'Wolves and the Kings....

In 2 weeks when the 76ers overtake the Knicks, maybe you'll understand then....

[Foshan]

I can't see us wanting to take back Beasley in an Iguodala deal. If we're moving Iggy its because Jrue/Turner are growing, and handling things. Beasley seems to be a bit of a ballstopper on offense, and I can't see Collin's loving his defense.

Assuming we get bounced in the 1st round, I think looking to move Iggy for a high 1st could be reasonable not only for us, but for the team acquiring him. Teams like Sac/Min have lots of young talent (mostly not extended past rookie deals), but all want to take a big step forward, Iggy definately helps those young squads.

We get Jrue/Meeks/Turner/Young into the playoffs to get a 'taste' for the big games, then cash out Iggy at a high in order to get pieces that will help going forward /shrug

More realistically though, I think we're going to see a Jrue/Turner/Iggy/Brand/x line up that totally puts the defensive clamps on a team and Collins doesn't want to move them.

[SJSF]

Granger>Wallace>Iggy

[sixerswillrule]

Not posting the game thread? Hmm, I wonder why...

[Ruhiel]

Wallace<Granger<Iggy

Fixed PER, durability, versatility