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Should Spoelstra be fired?

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Re: Fire Spoelstra 

Post#1041 » by StrawberryShake » Fri Mar 4, 2011 5:09 am

I fear for what the spurs will do to us.the plane ride over there lebrons probably like
"MAN FU$% this!!!!, shouldve stayed my ass in cleveland"
Wades probably in an ice tub staring at a picture of gabrielle union and bosh is most likely curled up with a snuggie listening to teenage dream by katie perry.
meanwhile spoelstras huddled up in the bathroom with mcadoo at the front of the plane ripping out his hair and frantically flipping through pages of "how to coach for dummies"
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Re: Fire Spoelstra 

Post#1042 » by Salty » Fri Mar 4, 2011 5:11 am

StrawberryShake wrote:I fear for what the spurs will do to us.the plane ride over there lebrons probably like
"MAN FU$% this!!!!, shouldve stayed my ass in cleveland"
Wades probably in an ice tub staring at a picture of gabrielle union and bosh is most likely curled up with a snuggie listening to teenage dream by katie perry.
meanwhile spoelstras huddled up in the bathroom with mcadoo at the front of the plane ripping out his hair and frantically flipping through pages of "how to coach for dummies"

I am just glad Wade didn't break his ankle getting his foot caught in that chair.
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Post#1043 » by Miamis3rdRing » Fri Mar 4, 2011 5:12 am

Edit: Nvm lmao
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Post#1044 » by salqaddoumi » Fri Mar 4, 2011 5:32 am

Iputsomepantson wrote:
coolstorybro wrote:
Edit:
I'm talking about FireSpo.com. There's no way in hell that 90+ votes to keep Spo are coming from Heat fans on here.


HIF is making fake accounts.


Edit: Green font of course. Don't want HIF to go on another "your mother" rant on me.


Every non-Heat fan that pops up on this board and sees this thread immediately votes No on that poll.
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Re: Fire Spoelstra 

Post#1045 » by Flashpoint » Fri Mar 4, 2011 5:35 am

salqaddoumi wrote:Every non-Heat fan that pops up on this board and sees this thread immediately votes No on that poll.

Yep. If I was a Celts fan (vomit) I'd want Spo to coach the Heat as long as possible.
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Re: Fire Spoelstra 

Post#1046 » by BFRESH44 » Fri Mar 4, 2011 5:49 am

Alex Trevelyan wrote:Listen to Spoelstra talk. He talks like his brain is full of self-help book cliches. Has anyone else noticed this? The cheesy lines about process and breakthroughs and humps. He's a Tony Robbins robot with a touch of Billy Bean's Moneyball thrown in for good measure. He spouts off platitudes he got from Pat Riley without possessing Riley's acumen for Xs and Os or his presence, his aura. He's jut a wannabe, a pale imitation of the real deal. He's the kind of guy that got by in school scribbling down every note, working hard, but never having "it". He's more ambition than brains and you can see it and the players see it, and they don't respect the guy.


/\ This really couldn't be put any better.

And this point, I can't even be angry at Erik. As a matter fact I feel sorry him. This is unbelievable pressure, and it's just appears to be that he is over his head. It's difficult trying not to overract to these single game samples. I mean hell, these guys could very well win the title like nothing ever happened. But the actual product that we've seen ? The sheer lack at execution and the breakdowns in some of these games are so alarming.

Ultimately, it lies on the CEO's hands to revaluate. Riley knows basketball like the back of his hand, and you would think he would never employ someone who was not capable of the job. But he is human, and humans can make mistakes.....

9-8 no longer appears to have been just some freak occurence. It was legimatate signs of total lack preparation to start the year. It's not all on him, though. These guys appear to need an ass kicker, not an ass kisser.

Based of what I've seen. This team is so reliant upon being hot from outside. This team is so reliant upon the raw talent just out talenting the other team for four quarters. Our go to plays down the stretch? Pick and rolls, where our powerforward actually never rolls to the basket, and the ball handler pounds the ball at the top of the circle, only to end up taking a long contested two pointer. These are common occurrences, and it's quite astounding.

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Re: Fire Spoelstra 

Post#1047 » by YamiRain » Fri Mar 4, 2011 5:57 am

I voted
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Post#1048 » by salqaddoumi » Fri Mar 4, 2011 6:15 am

Alex Trevelyan wrote:Listen to Spoelstra talk. He talks like his brain is full of self-help book cliches. Has anyone else noticed this? The cheesy lines about process and breakthroughs and humps. He's a Tony Robbins robot with a touch of Billy Bean's Moneyball thrown in for good measure. He spouts off platitudes he got from Pat Riley without possessing Riley's acumen for Xs and Os or his presence, his aura. He's jut a wannabe, a pale imitation of the real deal. He's the kind of guy that got by in school scribbling down every note, working hard, but never having "it". He's more ambition than brains and you can see it and the players see it, and they don't respect the guy.


What a great post.
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Re: Fire Spoelstra 

Post#1049 » by Iputsomepantson » Fri Mar 4, 2011 6:39 am

Alex Trevelyan wrote:Listen to Spoelstra talk. He talks like his brain is full of self-help book cliches.


It's one thing to know that the reaction a person gives you in a time of stress is normal, it's another to tell the person what they are experiencing you know? This is something Spoelstra fails to realize, it's almost as if he is detached from the emotions of the team.

While Spoelstra may think of this as leadership, it might be backfiring. I mean if you were on the Heat, would you really want Spoelstra to come to you and say "this is normal, everyone goes through this, Pat Riley told me so." Or would you want him to say hey, we need to step it up, so this is what we're going to do.

The time has come for the Heat to get things done. No more talk about the system. No one is buying it.
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Post#1050 » by BennyGfromFL » Fri Mar 4, 2011 7:07 am

Bob Slydell: No. No, of course not. We find it's always better to fire people on a Friday. Studies have statistically shown that there's less chance of an incident if you do it at the end of the week.


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Re: Fire Spoelstra 

Post#1051 » by truthiness » Fri Mar 4, 2011 9:44 am

GetMoney wrote:i dont give a damn about offensive sets or w/e excuses you ppl want to come up with
there comes a point in the game where great players step up and make plays
they step up and lead their team, vocally and by example

i didnt see any fire out there when the magic went on their run
from anyone
that team is full of cowards


oh, hi spo
please resign

PS: didn't see any fire ? u blind ? what do you call wade flying in the 3rd row ? GTFO with these lame excuses.

melostat wrote:wow youre blaming spo..its hard to make plays on players who cant shoot..just saying


speaking of "players who can't shoot", shouldn't you be worrying more about melo's TS% ???
i know you're high now, but NY still is 1st round fodder, so you can go ahead and make plans for may and june.
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Post#1052 » by Iputsomepantson » Fri Mar 4, 2011 10:13 am

truthiness wrote:speaking of "players who can't shoot", shouldn't you be worrying more about melo's TS% ???
i know you're high now, but NY still is 1st round fodder, so you can go ahead and make plans for may and june.


I just took an ambien maybe 15 mins ago. Laid down in bed, read this post and it tripped me out man. Especially with the two faces you have for your sig. It was almost like they were having a conversation based upon the stuff you typed in the post. Pretty crazy I know.
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Re: Fire Spoelstra 

Post#1053 » by wizardg » Fri Mar 4, 2011 10:48 am

Nupe_1911 wrote:
HIF wrote:So if we lose it's the coach, if we win it's the players.

erm no win situation.

No caoch has ever coached an 82-0 season even with seasoned teams. Get off the guys balls.

As someone said if we're a .5 team at 50 games and the reason is the coach then attack relentlessly if not STFU.


We can always depend on E. Spolestra aka HIF to defend himself vigorously on this forum. Mr. Spo. I suggest you spend more time instituting a real non-1v1 based offense and less time trolling this forum. OK, THX!

On a serious note, I will be more than happy to give Spo. credit when he does something coaching wise that merits praise. Simply throwing Bron, Wade and Bosh out there to play 1v1 is not coaching. The team should be running A LOT. Using picks and rolls A LOT. Posting Bosh and LeBron A LOT.

AND

Arroyo certainly should not be starting. The starting five should be

Wade
LeBron
James Jones
Bosh
Joel A.

That is right, LeBron and Wade are actually two of the best pg's in the NBA. GO FIGURE!!!!!!



Wow I'm a Spurs fan who knew nothing of Spol until this year. But Now I see he is horrible offensively . The lineup you posted above is one I expected to see alot of. and you'e right Lebron needs to post up. And even though I see the Heat running p/r What I expected to see was a LeBron Wade P/R I've yet to see it. LeBron sets the pick for Wade and it should create openings like Nash-Amare or Stock -malone. Mike Brown had better sets than Spo.
It makes me apreciate Jordan more because Phil was about as bad as Brown and Spo .. and though phil realized it and brought Tex and the triangle.
The triangle helped prevent teams fro making comebacks by keeping the everyone other than jordan involved. However the triagle was rarely used in crunch time.

LeBron/Wade have to fiugure this out. If Spo could have he would have.
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Re: Fire Spoelstra 

Post#1054 » by HIF » Fri Mar 4, 2011 11:06 am

3LiftHeatCurse wrote:YEAH, now this Sporon puts Dampier in?

TOO FREAKING LATE

HE PUT JOEL ANTHONY IN AND ALLOWED A 38-9 RUN and NOW he puts Dampier in when the Heat have to fight for survival tooth and nail against a Magic team that has momentum now.

I hate this coach. I really do.


Normally I don't reply to you because really you never say anything worthwhile but I found this comment pretty funny.

You are aware that Joel only played 10 mins aren't you? And Dampier played 31. How this can be the wrong thing for Spo to do is beyond my understanding. Against Howard you need a big. Damps can't play 48 mins though can he? While Joel was on I think we lost 7pts - that's all. now if you were complaining that our bigs are not good enough I'd agree with you but that's down to signing the big 3.

Spo played the best center that he could in the situation he was in. The players got cocky and and lazy whn they were up and then couldn't hit open shots when they needed to. If that's a reason to fire Spo then fine but at least get your argument sorted out.
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Re: Fire Spoelstra 

Post#1055 » by HIF » Fri Mar 4, 2011 11:09 am

Only Lebron followers and deluded fans expected us to win it all this year. Riley and Spo made it clear that it's a 2 year rebuild. we're sitting pretty good considering. Second in the East with a chance to upset the books and actually make the finals.

There is NO coach in the league who could be expected to win a chip without even an average Center on the roster or a passable PG.
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Re: Fire Spoelstra 

Post#1056 » by melostat » Fri Mar 4, 2011 1:21 pm

truthiness wrote:
GetMoney wrote:i dont give a damn about offensive sets or w/e excuses you ppl want to come up with
there comes a point in the game where great players step up and make plays
they step up and lead their team, vocally and by example

i didnt see any fire out there when the magic went on their run
from anyone
that team is full of cowards


oh, hi spo
please resign

PS: didn't see any fire ? u blind ? what do you call wade flying in the 3rd row ? GTFO with these lame excuses.

melostat wrote:wow youre blaming spo..its hard to make plays on players who cant shoot..just saying


speaking of "players who can't shoot", shouldn't you be worrying more about melo's TS% ???
i know you're high now, but NY still is 1st round fodder, so you can go ahead and make plans for may and june.

its ok as long as hes shooting jumpers..let lebron and wade shoot jumpers and they will have iverson-like TS :D
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Re: Fire Spoelstra 

Post#1057 » by Gotta_B_KD35 » Fri Mar 4, 2011 2:28 pm

:lol: Seriously, James took over your organization. Players playing with no heart whatsoever, getting too cocky, etc. From what I've seen from the Heat during the Xmas game is their true potential. It's very damn good. I believe Spo has some blame to this but it's due to not able to get the proper respect from his star players (which all hope is loss) more so than his nonexistent offensive coaching liability. The Heat have such tremendous talented stars but no wins will come if they don't show motivation and lead their team.

The lebron and wade ISOs needs to go. More ball movement, no more LeISO holding the ball for over half the shot clock. He cares about his stats too much. From what I've seen he can still average really great numbers without playing his style of game. He has remarkable court vision, size and range if he gets hot is enough to do that without being too ball dominant. More ball movement gives the role players confidence they need to score and step up when the heat3 needs the too.

Sorry but to the Heat fans mostly putting the blame on Spo, Bosh's softness, or Joel are wrong. The burden should start and end with the 2 supposedly leaders of the Heat, Wade and James. They're not going to win and prove the haters wrong if they keep leading the team like they have been all season. Them hogging the ball, asking for picks and expecting Bosh and the shooters to hit their shots and expecting a win is not championship material. Heat have great passers and finishers at the rim. James is neglecting the teams talent and is too simple minded to change his game up and give his team a huge amount of confidence in themselves. If Spo's offense is crap then Heat are going to have to rely on James because he runs most of the Heat offense. Get your teammates INVOLVE and pass why don't you (and I'm not talking about catch and shoot)?
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Re: Fire Spoelstra 

Post#1058 » by Nupe_1911 » Fri Mar 4, 2011 2:30 pm

No one has called for the firing of Eric Spo. longer and more vociferously then myself. He is a terrible coach. His biggest failings are extremely poor use of players and atrocious use of cliche's.

All that being said, Spo. is not going to be fired this year. Further, the Heat would have to severely flop in the playoffs for Spo. to be fired prior to the start of next season. So, this thread is somewhat pointless - unfortunately.
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Re: Fire Spoelstra 

Post#1059 » by Nupe_1911 » Fri Mar 4, 2011 2:33 pm

wizardg wrote:
Nupe_1911 wrote:
HIF wrote:So if we lose it's the coach, if we win it's the players.

erm no win situation.

No caoch has ever coached an 82-0 season even with seasoned teams. Get off the guys balls.

As someone said if we're a .5 team at 50 games and the reason is the coach then attack relentlessly if not STFU.


We can always depend on E. Spolestra aka HIF to defend himself vigorously on this forum. Mr. Spo. I suggest you spend more time instituting a real non-1v1 based offense and less time trolling this forum. OK, THX!

On a serious note, I will be more than happy to give Spo. credit when he does something coaching wise that merits praise. Simply throwing Bron, Wade and Bosh out there to play 1v1 is not coaching. The team should be running A LOT. Using picks and rolls A LOT. Posting Bosh and LeBron A LOT.

AND

Arroyo certainly should not be starting. The starting five should be

Wade
LeBron
James Jones
Bosh
Joel A.

That is right, LeBron and Wade are actually two of the best pg's in the NBA. GO FIGURE!!!!!!



Wow I'm a Spurs fan who knew nothing of Spol until this year. But Now I see he is horrible offensively . The lineup you posted above is one I expected to see alot of. and you'e right Lebron needs to post up. And even though I see the Heat running p/r What I expected to see was a LeBron Wade P/R I've yet to see it. LeBron sets the pick for Wade and it should create openings like Nash-Amare or Stock -malone. Mike Brown had better sets than Spo.
It makes me apreciate Jordan more because Phil was about as bad as Brown and Spo .. and though phil realized it and brought Tex and the triangle.
The triangle helped prevent teams fro making comebacks by keeping the everyone other than jordan involved. However the triagle was rarely used in crunch time.

LeBron/Wade have to fiugure this out. If Spo could have he would have.


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Re: Fire Spoelstra 

Post#1060 » by desert_scar » Fri Mar 4, 2011 2:40 pm

HIF wrote:Only Lebron followers and deluded fans expected us to win it all this year. Riley and Spo made it clear that it's a 2 year rebuild. we're sitting pretty good considering. Second in the East with a chance to upset the books and actually make the finals.

There is NO coach in the league who could be expected to win a chip without even an average Center on the roster or a passable PG.


No, pretty much all the experts and gamblers had the Heat as favorites. The Heat put together a stronger younger version of what Boston did--but they have not jelled as a group like the Boston. The idea the Heat could be caught by a young Bulls team with more injuries and almost as many new players gives a clear indication of the differences in the quality of coaching shown this year.

It would be a huge egg on the face of Spoz, Riley and Heat players not to win the title. The only situation remotely understandable would be a loss to the Lakers who happened to jell themselves and Bynam-Gasol-Odom-Artest overwhelmed Miami on the front line. Talent wise there is no way any other team should be a serious threat.

Personally I don't think it is the effort of Lebron and Wade. Lebron has the best PER and differential in the league and Wade is top 5. They are performing as individuals. The problem is the team doesn't have an identity and loses organization on both sides of the ball when things start going south. One would hope a coach could intervene in such situations.

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