Game 3561: Pacers @ Rockets 03/05/11, 8:30 EST
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Re: Game 3561: Pacers @ Rockets 03/05/11, 8:30 EST
paulgeorge24 wrote:jcodbf2 wrote:That Mayo trade would have helped so much IMO. The Pacers have no one that can create off the dribble. PG does it sometimes but thats about it.
Is that a typo? One of the things Mayo would have brought is another guy who can go create for himself. Agreed with everything else you said though. Hibbert and Granger need to play stronger and in Hibbert's case, he really needs to learn how to adapt to the double team whether its a team thing or individual. Clyde pointed out how he takes one dribble for no reason and then the double swarms when he picks it up. Just not playing with any confidence as of late. Danny has been really good once he gets to the line, but he still is in love with the long jumpshot. Collison is very underwhelming and Rush, well im not surprised he shut it down after the near-trade.
PG is too passive for my liking. Just get him the ball and good things happen most of the time. (he scores or feeds for a layup)
Yes it was a typo.. Fixed.
Rush always plays like this.. he will have a game every now and then where he attacks the basket and looks great doing it but mostly he just stands around.
PG just a couple weeks ago was attacking the basket getting layups and kicking out to an open man. But now is playing like Rush in that he is standing in the corner or dribbling in place and jab stepping and then kicking it back out. He isnt playing like he was before. You nailed it in that he has became to passive as he has passed open driving lanes and open shots. I think maybe starting could give him a boost in confidence to get back to how he was playing.
PG has also been a little to aggressive playing the passing lanes lately too. Has given up some easy cuts.
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Re: Game 3561: Pacers @ Rockets 03/05/11, 8:30 EST
Embarrassment.
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Re: Game 3561: Pacers @ Rockets 03/05/11, 8:30 EST
Mike Wells tweeted that alot of loud " discussing " was happening in the locker room after the game ( paraphrasing of course ).
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Re: Game 3561: Pacers @ Rockets 03/05/11, 8:30 EST
Nothing destroys chemistry like losing. It seemed like the team was getting along just fine but I guess we have some figuring out to do. What a terrible time. It's easier to win games in the last 10 or so games of the season, but we definitely can't bank on that.
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Re: Game 3561: Pacers @ Rockets 03/05/11, 8:30 EST
Our problem is selfishness, instead of making the extra pass guys are forcing way too many contested shots.
I've been watching the Bulls and they have so much movement that it creates multiple lanes for Rose to attack. Our offense is stagnant, and the main culprits are Price, Collison, Hibbert, and Hansbrough. These are the players taking way too many contested shots.
Hibbert is a great passer for a big, yet rarely kicks it out of the triple team. Hansbrough has the same problem, only he is shorter, but stronger, he also needs to make the extra pass. Darren and AJ are both playing poorly, and even though I have given up on the thought of AJ as our b/u pg, I still think Darren has it in him to be a lethal pg.
Who is our point guard coach anyway? We need a coach to develop them better.
Lance, and to a lesser extent, Danny, Brandon, Josh and PG are the only ones playing unselfish. DJones is in between because sometimes he tries to do too much on offense.
Vogel should know that it is imperative for our offense to start functioning properly. Until he gets movement and teamwork associated with his offense we are doomed. Our strength is not to shut teams down, because we know we can't do that, rather it is the ability to score a lot of points. We know we have that ability and it has gone bye-bye. Along with Vogel's chances.
We need leadership from the coach. Frank must assert his philosophy on dealing with adversity and demand changes from his players.
I've been watching the Bulls and they have so much movement that it creates multiple lanes for Rose to attack. Our offense is stagnant, and the main culprits are Price, Collison, Hibbert, and Hansbrough. These are the players taking way too many contested shots.
Hibbert is a great passer for a big, yet rarely kicks it out of the triple team. Hansbrough has the same problem, only he is shorter, but stronger, he also needs to make the extra pass. Darren and AJ are both playing poorly, and even though I have given up on the thought of AJ as our b/u pg, I still think Darren has it in him to be a lethal pg.
Who is our point guard coach anyway? We need a coach to develop them better.
Lance, and to a lesser extent, Danny, Brandon, Josh and PG are the only ones playing unselfish. DJones is in between because sometimes he tries to do too much on offense.
Vogel should know that it is imperative for our offense to start functioning properly. Until he gets movement and teamwork associated with his offense we are doomed. Our strength is not to shut teams down, because we know we can't do that, rather it is the ability to score a lot of points. We know we have that ability and it has gone bye-bye. Along with Vogel's chances.
We need leadership from the coach. Frank must assert his philosophy on dealing with adversity and demand changes from his players.
"A man who fears suffering is already suffering from what he fears." -Michel de Montaigne
Re: Game 3561: Pacers @ Rockets 03/05/11, 8:30 EST
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Re: Game 3561: Pacers @ Rockets 03/05/11, 8:30 EST
it's becoming apparent that we just aren't that good yet. we got a burst of optimism when Vogel was able to string together a run of wins against teams that we supposed to beat. now that we're playing better teams our true level is showing. Obie cost us some wins with his stubbornness and because the team had tuned him out, but our ceiling was maybe 500 and not much more.
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Re: Game 3561: Pacers @ Rockets 03/05/11, 8:30 EST
Well we're still there and that's the important thing, What I'm really worried about is how poorly this team can perform when confidence is low.
