Comparing Ty's start to Jerry and Frank

[leorn]

Frank Layden:
Took over for Tom Nassalke after 20 games into the 1981 Season. Started off 11-41, after finishing an 18 game losing streak. [url="http://www.databasebasketball.com/teams/teamscores.htm?tm=UTA&yr=1981&lg=N"]http://www.databasebasketball.com/teams/teamscores.htm?tm=UTA&yr=1981&lg=N[/url]
Year Team Season Playoffs
1981 UTA 17 - 45 0 - 0
1982 UTA 30 - 52 0 - 0
1983 UTA 45 - 37 5 - 6
1984 UTA 41 - 41 4 - 6
1985 UTA 42 - 40 1 - 3
1986 UTA 44 - 38 2 - 3
1987 UTA 47 - 35 6 - 5
1988 UTA 11 - 6 0 - 0
[url="http://www.databasebasketball.com/coaches/coachpage.htm?coachid=LAYDEFR01"]http://www.databasebasketball.com/coaches/coachpage.htm?coachid=LAYDEFR01[/url]

Jerry Sloan:
Started 1-6 with Chicago and 2-5 with the Jazz. [url="http://www.databasebasketball.com/teams/teamscores.htm?tm=UTA&yr=1988&lg=N"]http://www.databasebasketball.com/teams/teamscores.htm?tm=UTA&yr=1988&lg=N[/url]
Year Team Season Playoffs
1979 CHI 30 - 52 0 - 0
1980 CHI 45 - 37 2 - 4
1981 CHI 19 - 32 0 - 0
1988 UTA 40 - 25 0 - 3
1989 UTA 55 - 27 2 - 3
1990 UTA 54 - 28 4 - 5
1991 UTA 55 - 27 9 - 7
1992 UTA 47 - 35 2 - 3
1993 UTA 53 - 29 8 - 8
1994 UTA 60 - 22 2 - 3
1995 UTA 55 - 27 10 - 8
1996 UTA 64 - 18 13 - 7
1997 UTA 62 - 20 13 - 7
1998 UTA 37 - 13 5 - 6
1999 UTA 55 - 27 4 - 6
2000 UTA 53 - 29 2 - 3
2001 UTA 44 - 38 1 - 3
2002 UTA 47 - 35 1 - 4
2003 UTA 42 - 40 0 - 0
2004 UTA 26 - 56 0 - 0
2005 UTA 41 - 41 0 - 0
2006 UTA 51 - 31 9 - 8
2007 UTA 54 - 28 6 - 6
2008 UTA 48 - 34 0 - 0
2009 UTA 53 - 29 4 - 6
[url="http://www.databasebasketball.com/coaches/coachpage.htm?coachid=SLOANJE01"]http://www.databasebasketball.com/coaches/coachpage.htm?coachid=SLOANJE01[/url]

I think it's worth mentioning that Jerry and Frank did not have to deal with major player movement in the first year, and they both had rosters with players whose numbers now hang from our rafters (Frank-2, Jerry-4!). Currently there is nobody that has earned that honor as of today. (They may in the future)

It's safe to say that if we were winning right now Ty would be a great coach, but the point of this thread is that he still *might* do that after some time.

Here's to hoping.

[Ming Kong!]

I'd like to see who they had, cause Ty has a talent to get .600+, not that I'd expect it this early, but better than 2-8? YES. With that said, outside of last night's blowout, I think we've played with energy, but the team doesn't have the synergy to close out games. Great coaches deal with closing games well, Sloan closed out games very well, so do Pops and Phil Jackson. Now bad coaches struggle at the end of games, just look at any bad team, or good teams coached by a bad coach, like the Heat.

I just hate that the Jazz signed Ty after 5 games, without enough time to evaluate him over the course of 25-30 games. People weren't going to be throwing contracts at Ty, couldn't they have been a little more patient?

[red4hf]

What I don't like is that we're doing a lot of the same things we did under Sloan, which we already knew weren't working......

Now, I don't know whether this is Corbin's strategy or the players just aren't listening, but whatever it is, it's not working...... And Corbin needs to make adjustments...... And for Christ's sake call a timeout.......

I like the fact that he's force feeding Jefferson on the block, we've all seen how effective he can be operating on the block as opposed to shooting 15 foot jumpshots....... I don't like the fact that Hayward is getting less playing time than Bell...... There's absolutely no excuse for that......

I don't like how few minutes Favors is getting....... Where is Fesenko? Is he injured?

What exactly are we saving our young guys for? Summer league?

[HolyToledo]

The problem I see with this comparison is that Frank Layden was a terrible coach. The one thing he did do was get players to play hard for him because they liked him. Sloan demanded players to play hard but was a terrible X and O guy who didnt relate well with todays players. Corbin is a complete disaster.

I guess if Corbin became Sloan or at least Layden then it would be an improvement because right now he looks like the worst coach in the league on the team playing the worst basketball in the league.

[babyjax13]

The problem I see with this comparison is that Frank Layden was a terrible coach. The one thing he did do was get players to play hard for him because they liked him. Sloan demanded players to play hard but was a terrible X and O guy who didnt relate well with todays players. Corbin is a complete disaster.

I guess if Corbin became Sloan or at least Layden then it would be an improvement because right now he looks like the worst coach in the league on the team playing the worst basketball in the league.

Jon Kuester says hi.

[The59Sound]

The problem I see with this comparison is that Frank Layden was a terrible coach. The one thing he did do was get players to play hard for him because they liked him. Sloan demanded players to play hard but was a terrible X and O guy who didnt relate well with todays players. Corbin is a complete disaster.

I guess if Corbin became Sloan or at least Layden then it would be an improvement because right now he looks like the worst coach in the league on the team playing the worst basketball in the league.

Jon Kuester says hi.

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