Bosh is a more expensive SuperCoolBeas!

[now and 4 life]

The wolves current record is 15-50
as for the beasley-bosh comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41rdU-3fiMA

[righteous015]

Not here to troll but wasn't Bosh one of the guys who actually got it going for you guys at one point? I just think he needs the ball in his hands in order for him to do stuff which sadly coincides with the needs of LBJ and Wade.

[kenny]

raptors fan here... ive been watching the heat games lately and bosh just doesn't seem like the player he was in toronto.. something is wrong.. he needs the ball more in his hands to get involved in the game.. he just seems to be standing around lately.. this is not the bosh i know.. i mean the guy is an all star he was putting up 24 and 10.. he's one of the best power forwards in the league and right now things just arent working out in miami.. bosh needs the ball more.. with wade lebron and bosh on the same team the heat shouldn't be loosing every game to good teams.. they are more talented than this

[Run DLC]

raptors fan here... ive been watching the heat games lately and bosh just doesn't seem like the player he was in toronto.. something is wrong.. he needs the ball more in his hands to get involved in the game.. he just seems to be standing around lately.. this is not the bosh i know.. i mean the guy is an all star he was putting up 24 and 10.. he's one of the best power forwards in the league and right now things just arent working out in miami.. bosh needs the ball more.. with wade lebron and bosh on the same team the heat shouldn't be loosing every game to good teams.. they are more talented than this

It;s the system, plain and simple. The Heat system has regressed role players more than it allow them to play at their strengths. Only Wade and LeBron will benefits from that system because of their ability to create shots on their own, but Riley needs major upgrade ASAP. New role players, new system, and a better knowledgeable and experienced Head Coach.

[Truthrising]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynnJS72BU2w[/youtube]

[Maternal]

If Bosh takes a lot more shots wade and James take less. Such is not acceptable and wouldn't make sense. And bosh is not effective unless he has the ball in his hand and scoring. His scoring affects his overal game. The heat's style of play, same with James/Wade does not suit bosh's style.

[andre316]

If Bosh takes a lot more shots wade and James take less. Such is not acceptable and wouldn't make sense. And bosh is not effective unless he has the ball in his hand and scoring. His scoring affects his overal game. The heat's style of play, same with James/Wade does not suit bosh's style.

If we wouldn't play at such a sluggish pace (which doesn't even make us more fluid on offense), there would be more shots to go around.

And if we made a concerted effort to get Bosh going in the post, his shots would spike in value.

[JoeyGsShoulders]

Bosh is not being utilized in the system it's absolutely true. The team needs a whole new system. Bosh got a lot of his offence during his tenure with the raps in iso situations. Lebron and Wade also both got most of their offence from isos. 3 Iso guys are hard to play together especially when your offence seems to involve a great deal of isolation.

To get a better offence you just need to have a ton more off the ball movement. Bosh was able to play in the post last year (granted he was heavier). Bosh can hit open shots certainly, just like he can create in isos. Going to the big man is a good way to play in half court but as long as you isolate one of bron or wade, bosh ends up watching the play which makes him a jump shooter.

[dolphinatik]

"It is common sense, we can talk about it, but I think it's evident," Bosh said. "I just have to get it where I'm effective. I'm a big man. I can shoot the ball but I'm a big man. So I have to get it where big guys get it. Then I feel I can start helping out this team more." Chris Bosh


Woot there it is. Yet another big ahs had enough and speaks out about our ineffective "system". Finally. We have been talking about it and Bosh cant stand it anymore. He wont go down as a jump shooter and wants to be the PF that he is.

[HeatInOhio]

"It is common sense, we can talk about it, but I think it's evident," Bosh said. "I just have to get it where I'm effective. I'm a big man. I can shoot the ball but I'm a big man. So I have to get it where big guys get it. Then I feel I can start helping out this team more." Chris Bosh


Woot there it is. Yet another big ahs had enough and speaks out about our ineffective "system". Finally. We have been talking about it and Bosh cant stand it anymore. He wont go down as a jump shooter and wants to be the PF that he is.

I'm not thrilled with Spo at all. I think he'll probably be replaced at some point in the next season or two. But....Please. It doesn't matter where Bosh gets it. He faces up and then he shoots a jumper. That quote from Bosh is irritating. You want to help the team more? Stop shooting 15 mid range jumpers every game and start rebounding, start blocking shots, start playing defense, start playing in the post more and start playing strong.

Bosh got raped by Aldridge last game and its becoming a common theme. I remember earlier when he sprained his ankle... he got mad at another player diving for a loose ball and called him out in the press:

"C'mon, that is how guys get hurt, that is how serious injuries happen. You've got to watch people's legs. I know guys want to hustle and everything but we all want to play and provide for our families and have a job.We all want to be healthy and that is very important If it is by somebody's leg, don't dive for the ball, it's too close."

Really? How about you dive for the loose ball? You know what's evident Chris? You need to prove to a lot of people you're not a pu$$y.

[dennis00]

Bosh's play isn't complementing very well with Lebron and Wade ball-hogging and trying to play heroball.

Bosh had 4 rebounds, 7 points in 40 minutes last night, OUCH! I guess we can't complain as Miami Heat fans. We have a wonderful future ahead, unlike most teams in the league.

But the Heat's success strongly depends on Bosh performing or not. Wade and Lebron will perform, but will Bosh? He was widely considered better than Boozer and Amare before signing for the Heat. He can do it.

[TMIMITW]

Here is my take, if this team was constructed with Wade and Bosh and a bunch of decent players (Kover, Brewer, or anyone that the 14 mil could have been spent on) players our team would have the same amount of wins.

Call me crazy, but Lebron being our X factor is also our Hurt Factor. He ability to play out of position drives PF crazy. Ask Jamersion and Boozer.

Not to knock James, but until someone tells him to stop and he listen we will always have this problem

[Heat3]

As frustrating as it is, we all need to have perspective. Take a step back and look at the entire situation. Our team, as constructed, is a work in progress. Regardless of the stuff said by idiots in the media, what we did this offseason was amazing. We got our core and we added 2 good role players. We still had lots of holes that could be exploited, but we assumed that if those 5 guys played at the top of their games then we could have a successful season (not necessarily a championship season). That was "best case scenario".

Unfortunately we have hit some major speed bumps. Injuries to our top two role players and chemistry issues between our core. The injuries were just bad luck. The chemistry issues is something that I think we'll over come in time. Our guys aren't the perfect match for each other but there is no reason they can't get past this. So what if it hasn't happened yet? We've yet to play 1 game with our full (albeit flawed) team this year. What we know is that when we play mediocre to bad teams we can win 3vs5 at a much higher clip than we used to win them 1v5

Assuming the CBA is similar to last year's then we'll go ahead and fill some holes with our exceptions and possible trades (of non-big 3 players). People that say we can't because the next CBA won't allow it don't know jack. No one knows what the final CBA will be. For all we know the salary cap will increase to $100M or maybe we'd be allowed to renegotiate contracts. Who knows, it's way to early to tell. What matters is we have the core locked up. That is the hardest part to do.

This is a project that was multiple years in the planning and as he himself stated last offseason it is just the beginning. We are limited by what we could do this year but the process will continue in the offseason. Don't think for a second that Pat Riley didn't consider this scenario where our team has struggled. There is a reason why this guy doesn't panic and why he doesn't make statements about Spoelstra when the media wants him to. He sees the big picture and knows that this year may not be our year and that's ok.

Unfortunately for us fans we can't get away from the media hype that expects us to win 3 championships by the all star break and another 3 before the playoffs start. The Heat failing is good for business because that is what a majority of nba fans want. So our struggles will be magnified.

Our team as constructed today:

Top Tier: Chemistry issues. These WILL be overcome but otherwise they are pulling their weight most of the time.
Lebron
Wade
Bosh

2nd Tier: Injured for extended periods of time. Basically non existent this year
Haslem - missed 50+ games
Miller - broke thumb on shooting hand. clearly hasn't recovered, probably won't be good until next year

#6-12 minimum salary scrubs. - can't expect much from old minimum guys, but they've managed to give us less than expected.

Basically Year 1 was always going to be a challenge where we relied heavily on our 1-5 guys. With 2 injured we're down to 3 guys who for various reasons are having chemistry issues. A lot of this would be solved with defined roles in a defined offense, but what do i know. The rest is just bad luck. Cause even when these guys give us 70-80 points no one else is showing up. It's a bit much to ask for 3 guys to do no matter how good they are.

[azuresou1]

The Heat would be better with SuperCoolBeas + a Tyson Chandler than with Bosh and that traffic accident at C.

[Vertical Limit]

Bosh is a **** pussy. At some point, getting pushed around so often, even the biggest pansies in the world would fight back. What the **** are you waiting for Bosh?

[rainking]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHBw0cyKQaU[/youtube]


I haven't seen the explosiveness or decisiveness from Bosh this year that we see in this video and I remember from watching him with the Raptors. Granted, these highlights are from two seasons ago, but I can't imagine that his athleticism has declined that dramatically. Even though he is getting less touches with the Heat, Bosh still needs to step up and be more aggresive when he does get his opportunities. I really thought that Chris would get 10-12 points a game this season simply on easy layups and dunks off of LeBron/Wade penetration and off of putbacks. However, the majority of Bosh's offense has come off of pick and pop opportunities, which really marginalizes his game. Whether it is his own mental issue or our coaching staff's fault for not putting him in better situations to succeed, something has to change.

Two things need to happen. First, Bosh needs to be more decisive with the ball. Make a decision to shoot, drive, or pass quicker. The second thing is the coaches cannot put him in the pick and roll almost exclusively. What happens is that he is usually left open to shoot the 18 footer, which is not a bad shot for him, but when a majority of his shots are coming from the perimeter it seems to turn his complete game into a passive one. He doesn't crash the boards or play with any energy. For better or worse, Bosh seems to be a guy that needs to be prodded and engaged in order to bring his total focus and energy. In Toronto, he was the centerpiece of what they did so he brought that energy and aggresiveness, but here he too easily slips into the shadows. Getting him involved is up to the coaches, Wade/LeBron, and Chris himself.

[StrawberryShake]

bosh needs to hit the weights again thats all im saying.

[WD]

As frustrating as it is, we all need to have perspective. Take a step back and look at the entire situation. Our team, as constructed, is a work in progress. Regardless of the stuff said by idiots in the media, what we did this offseason was amazing. We got our core and we added 2 good role players. We still had lots of holes that could be exploited, but we assumed that if those 5 guys played at the top of their games then we could have a successful season (not necessarily a championship season). That was "best case scenario".

Unfortunately we have hit some major speed bumps. Injuries to our top two role players and chemistry issues between our core. The injuries were just bad luck. The chemistry issues is something that I think we'll over come in time. Our guys aren't the perfect match for each other but there is no reason they can't get past this. So what if it hasn't happened yet? We've yet to play 1 game with our full (albeit flawed) team this year. What we know is that when we play mediocre to bad teams we can win 3vs5 at a much higher clip than we used to win them 1v5

Assuming the CBA is similar to last year's then we'll go ahead and fill some holes with our exceptions and possible trades (of non-big 3 players). People that say we can't because the next CBA won't allow it don't know jack. No one knows what the final CBA will be. For all we know the salary cap will increase to $100M or maybe we'd be allowed to renegotiate contracts. Who knows, it's way to early to tell. What matters is we have the core locked up. That is the hardest part to do.

This is a project that was multiple years in the planning and as he himself stated last offseason it is just the beginning. We are limited by what we could do this year but the process will continue in the offseason. Don't think for a second that Pat Riley didn't consider this scenario where our team has struggled. There is a reason why this guy doesn't panic and why he doesn't make statements about Spoelstra when the media wants him to. He sees the big picture and knows that this year may not be our year and that's ok.

Unfortunately for us fans we can't get away from the media hype that expects us to win 3 championships by the all star break and another 3 before the playoffs start. The Heat failing is good for business because that is what a majority of nba fans want. So our struggles will be magnified.

Our team as constructed today:

Top Tier: Chemistry issues. These WILL be overcome but otherwise they are pulling their weight most of the time.
Lebron
Wade
Bosh

2nd Tier: Injured for extended periods of time. Basically non existent this year
Haslem - missed 50+ games
Miller - broke thumb on shooting hand. clearly hasn't recovered, probably won't be good until next year

#6-12 minimum salary scrubs. - can't expect much from old minimum guys, but they've managed to give us less than expected.

Basically Year 1 was always going to be a challenge where we relied heavily on our 1-5 guys. With 2 injured we're down to 3 guys who for various reasons are having chemistry issues. A lot of this would be solved with defined roles in a defined offense, but what do i know. The rest is just bad luck. Cause even when these guys give us 70-80 points no one else is showing up. It's a bit much to ask for 3 guys to do no matter how good they are.

good post, clear, concise, intelligent

[aniloman]

Well who would the Heat target next year to fill the holes they have at the PG and C position?
Centers
Chandler
Jordan
Kristic
Point Guards
Ford
Parker
Felton?

[RapsGirl]

so.......what now?