Fire Spoelstra

[rainking]

Spo needs to just stop with the B.S. pop psychology. He sounds like he is reading straight from a self-help book. Worry about X's and O's. The problem is not our effort, mentality, trust, etc. There are real system issues with this team. The same issues that have been here for the past 3 years. We have no motion on offense, no post game, questionable player rotations, and give up too many open 3's defensively. Spo drones on constantly about process, sacrifice, etc. but frankly I haven't seen him make any sacrifices or adjustments to his (really Riley's) system during his tenure here.

[DuckIII]

I'm a Bulls fan, which I assume won't in and of itself get me suspended. But here is an outsider's perspective: I've defended Spo generally over the last couple of years, but this losing streak has been revealing of where his head is at, I think. Specifically:

Spo needs to just stop with the B.S. pop psychology. He sounds like he is reading straight from a self-help book. Worry about X's and O's.

Exactly. There is a time and a place for motivational talk, but right now he's just coming off as a guy with a list of soundbites who doesn't know anything about basketball. Why isn't he talking about basketball? Why is he buying into the gloom and doom mentality of the media?

"Don't . . . let . . . go . . . of . . . the . . . rope!" These are regular season basketball games, not life and death. His drama is doing nothing to help the Heat stay even. Get some perspective, Spo.

I don't think Spo is a Hall of Fame coach, but let's be honest...he was placed in a no-win situation.

Kurt Rambis is in a no win situation. Byron Scott is in a no win situation. Eric Spoelstra has been gifted the unique opportunity to coach what is arguably the most talented threesome of players ever assembled on an NBA team.

[rainking]

Spo can push for us to be stronger defensively all he wants, but the recent struggles can be blamed on the offense. Since the Portland win on the road that capped off our winning 21 of 22, we have gone 13-12. In those 12 losses, we have only scorred 100 points or more twice, and those two times were in the first two games of that stretch, on the road against the Clippers and Nuggets. Overall, we are 29-4 this season when we score 100 or more points. The offense needs to be opened up and changes must be made. And no, those changes have nothing to do with ropes or process...They have to do with actual X's and O's.

[rainking]

i understand you saying roster but whats realy the difference between Heat current roster & this roster... I know its like 20 years ago but still whats really the difference.. Heat current roster look better than me.. Bulls didnt have no superstar point guard & didnt have a star center either.. Bill Cartwright was old very old by this point of his career and had bad knees..

10 B.J. Armstrong G 6-2 175
24 Bill Cartwright C 7-1 245
54 Horace Grant F-C 6-10 215
14 Craig Hodges G 6-2 190
2 Dennis Hopson G-F 6-5 200
23 Michael Jordan G-F 6-6 195
34 Stacey King F-C 6-11 230
53 Cliff Levingston F 6-8 210
5 John Paxson G 6-2 185
32 Will Perdue C 7-0 240
33 Scottie Pippen F-G 6-8 210
42 Scott Williams F-C 6-10 230

This is a fair comparison. As a whole, it is hard to say that this 1991 Bulls team was any more talented than this Heat squad, as thin as we are. Jordan/Pippen put up roughly the same numbers as Wade/James are putting up as a duo. The Bulls received more consistent play from their role players, with Cartwright, Armstrong, and Paxon all shooting around 50% and scoring between 8-10 points a game. If we got 25-30 points a game from Miller, Haslem, and Chalmers, we would be very tough to beat. Our problem right now is offense, not defense.

[Nupe_1911]

i understand you saying roster but whats realy the difference between Heat current roster & this roster... I know its like 20 years ago but still whats really the difference.. Heat current roster look better than me.. Bulls didnt have no superstar point guard & didnt have a star center either.. Bill Cartwright was old very old by this point of his career and had bad knees..

10 B.J. Armstrong G 6-2 175
24 Bill Cartwright C 7-1 245
54 Horace Grant F-C 6-10 215
14 Craig Hodges G 6-2 190
2 Dennis Hopson G-F 6-5 200
23 Michael Jordan G-F 6-6 195
34 Stacey King F-C 6-11 230
53 Cliff Levingston F 6-8 210
5 John Paxson G 6-2 185
32 Will Perdue C 7-0 240
33 Scottie Pippen F-G 6-8 210
42 Scott Williams F-C 6-10 230

This is a fair comparison. As a whole, it is hard to say that this 1991 Bulls team was any more talented than this Heat squad, as thin as we are. Jordan/Pippen put up roughly the same numbers as Wade/James are putting up as a duo. The Bulls received more consistent play from their role players, with Cartwright, Armstrong, and Paxon all shooting around 50% and scoring between 8-10 points a game. If we got 25-30 points a game from Miller, Haslem, and Chalmers, we would be very tough to beat. Our problem right now is offense, not defense.

Well the Bulls had a consistent rotation from game to game, a coach that ran an offense that was not super predictable, played solid defense that did not rely on over-rotating and had some offense out of the post with either Jordan or Pippen.

The Heat do not have a consistent rotation, run a pretty stagnant and predictable offense, scramble too much on defense and rarely post up.

[GameTime_3]

There is no way this coach last much longer. This guy is so stubborn and egotistical its crazy. He probably feels that the players aren't buying into his system and thats why there losing. Chris Bosh can't be happy with Spo after this.

It didn't sound like Chris Bosh's pleas for a different role in the Miami Heat's offense were well received by coach Erik Spoelstra.

As the Heat attempted to pick up the pieces following their fifth straight loss and prepare for a stern test against the red-hot Los Angeles Lakers Thursday, Spoelstra all but dismissed Bosh's statements about wanting more low-post plays.

"I think our minds were cluttered last night," Spoelstra said. "Today, it wasn't about talk. It was about working and practicing."

"You just notice a trend going on and that was something that was on my heart for a while," said Bosh, who was the last Heat player on the practice court as he worked on post-up moves with teammate Juwan Howard. "I just wanted to be honest."

Spoelstra was being honest as well, saying the team actually had a good game when it came to interior scoring against the Blazers, racking up 48 points in the paint. Spoelstra also implied that

improvement needed to be a team-wide effort, not just from getting Bosh more looks.


Heat Index

[WD]

There is no way this coach last much longer. This guy is so stubborn and egotistical its crazy. He probably feels that the players aren't buying into his system and thats why there losing. Chris Bosh can't be happy with Spo after this.

It didn't sound like Chris Bosh's pleas for a different role in the Miami Heat's offense were well received by coach Erik Spoelstra.

As the Heat attempted to pick up the pieces following their fifth straight loss and prepare for a stern test against the red-hot Los Angeles Lakers Thursday, Spoelstra all but dismissed Bosh's statements about wanting more low-post plays.

"I think our minds were cluttered last night," Spoelstra said. "Today, it wasn't about talk. It was about working and practicing."

"You just notice a trend going on and that was something that was on my heart for a while," said Bosh, who was the last Heat player on the practice court as he worked on post-up moves with teammate Juwan Howard. "I just wanted to be honest."

Spoelstra was being honest as well, saying the team actually had a good game when it came to interior scoring against the Blazers, racking up 48 points in the paint. Spoelstra also implied that

improvement needed to be a team-wide effort, not just from getting Bosh more looks.


Heat Index

I just posted this - I try to be balanced in my thinking, but this guy first said "I don't know what else to try" = but just cannot come to take any advice from the actual players he wants to "give a little more" It's crazy, really crazy

[radikalBaller]

There is no way this coach last much longer. This guy is so stubborn and egotistical its crazy. He probably feels that the players aren't buying into his system and thats why there losing. Chris Bosh can't be happy with Spo after this.

It didn't sound like Chris Bosh's pleas for a different role in the Miami Heat's offense were well received by coach Erik Spoelstra.

As the Heat attempted to pick up the pieces following their fifth straight loss and prepare for a stern test against the red-hot Los Angeles Lakers Thursday, Spoelstra all but dismissed Bosh's statements about wanting more low-post plays.

"I think our minds were cluttered last night," Spoelstra said. "Today, it wasn't about talk. It was about working and practicing."

"You just notice a trend going on and that was something that was on my heart for a while," said Bosh, who was the last Heat player on the practice court as he worked on post-up moves with teammate Juwan Howard. "I just wanted to be honest."

Spoelstra was being honest as well, saying the team actually had a good game when it came to interior scoring against the Blazers, racking up 48 points in the paint. Spoelstra also implied that

improvement needed to be a team-wide effort, not just from getting Bosh more looks.


Heat Index

I just posted this - I try to be balanced in my thinking, but this guy first said "I don't know what else to try" = but just cannot come to take any advice from the actual players he wants to "give a little more" It's crazy, really crazy

That's what happens when you give too much power to a dumbass

[YamiRain]

Could this team run the triangle?

[truthiness]

That's what happens when you give too much power to a dumbass

Spoelstra is basically this:



I think he's so threatened about the egos in that lockerroom, so afraid he might not command respect that he has decided from the start to always be on the attack.

This is why he was already talking about egos a few games into the season, when I'm pretty sure nobody's ego even had time to act up. That's why he's ignoring what players say - he's afraid he'd look weak and he'd lose respect.

The problem is, he didn't do **** to earn that respect that he wants and demands. And acting this way, being this stubborn, letting his own ego be greater than the team is a sure way to lose whatever respect he was getting. He'll lose the team (if he hadn't already) and he'll be toast.

And, despite what the media and other teams' fans will cry, it won't be Riley's fault, it won't be Lebron's or Wade's ego, it will be his own stupid dumb ego that did him in.

[Heat_team02]

Spo can push for us to be stronger defensively all he wants, but the recent struggles can be blamed on the offense. Since the Portland win on the road that capped off our winning 21 of 22, we have gone 13-12. In those 12 losses, we have only scorred 100 points or more twice, and those two times were in the first two games of that stretch, on the road against the Clippers and Nuggets. Overall, we are 29-4 this season when we score 100 or more points. The offense needs to be opened up and changes must be made. And no, those changes have nothing to do with ropes or process...They have to do with actual X's and O's.

They need to get the offense going earlier in the shot clock. Much much earlier. More motion plays to the basket, backdoor passes, surprise zones (on defense) & crashing the glass when the shot goes up on both ends.

[andre316]

Could this team run the triangle?

Could our coach identify a triangle?

[DWadeno3]

Wow, even Ira is being critical of Spo. http://mobile.sun-sentinel.com/wap/news/text.jsp?sid=293&nid=41281864&title=Sports%20Headlines&nstart=1&cid=17112&scid=1932&from=&redir=&ith=0&storytitle=Spoelstra,+Miami+Heat+at+crossroads+as+Lakers+arrive

[mh_3]

Could this team run the triangle?

[GameTime_3]

Spo saying the Heat were "Crying"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaTK5ZiNmTo[/youtube]
One of the worst motivational speakers I've ever seen.

Spo saying he never said "Crying"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP1DuomavpQ[/youtube]

LOL @ This guy.

[Flashpoint]

Gutless, Spo. Talk all your character rhetoric and then act like a coward when someone tries to hold you accountable for something you obviously said. Blaming the media for accurately recording the words that came out of your mouth? Bull ****. Like always with you. Nonstop bull ****.

[Run DLC]

Do......not.......let.......go......of......the......rope.

[Run DLC]

Spoelstra for Youth motivational speaker of the year.

[BIRDMAN BIRDMAN]

WallaceHeatNBA

Speaking to (Newark) Star-Ledger while at Big East Tourney, Pat Rileys says "write off" speculation about Spo's job security.

[HIF]

WallaceHeatNBA

Speaking to (Newark) Star-Ledger while at Big East Tourney, Pat Rileys says "write off" speculation about Spo's job security.

So me and riles are on the same page. I'll settle for that