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Re: Jazz @ Raptors 5PM MST 

Post#161 » by babyjax13 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:50 am

DH34Phan wrote:I haven't been in this forum since the Harris trade. I love the deal, I don't know the forum consensus on it.

Great game tonight for Harris and Jefferson. How have they played together since the trade?

Good luck Jazz in the playoff chase, the Bucks are trying to get back in it in the East, lol.


I love Harris. He's not Deron, but he works better with Jefferson and other players are stepping up because he moves the ball better. On the otherhand, Deron was so talented that he made this team a contender, Harris isn't - but the future is brighter with him.
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Re: Jazz @ Raptors 5PM MST 

Post#162 » by Soul Patch » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:52 am

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Re: Jazz @ Raptors 5PM MST 

Post#163 » by DH34Phan » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:56 am

babyjax13 wrote:I love Harris. He's not Deron, but he works better with Jefferson and other players are stepping up because he moves the ball better. On the otherhand, Deron was so talented that he made this team a contender, Harris isn't - but the future is brighter with him.

I honestly think Harris has a chance to be the next Billups. With Jefferson and Millsap you guys already have a good core around him. That core right there will compete playoff spots, IMO. Build around that and you have a contender.

I don't think it will be long until you guys are competing for at least WCF appearances, especially with SA, LAL, and DAL all getting older.
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Re: Jazz @ Raptors 5PM MST 

Post#164 » by The59Sound » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:01 am

DH34Phan wrote:I haven't been in this forum since the Harris trade. I love the deal, I don't know the forum consensus on it.

Great game tonight for Harris and Jefferson. How have they played together since the trade?

Good luck Jazz in the playoff chase, the Bucks are trying to get back in it in the East, lol.


I love the trade too! Team's been a lot more fun to watch, the only exception being the Knicks game. Harris is still getting used to people, but he's been very strong so far. I hope he's around for a long time to come.
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Re: Jazz @ Raptors 5PM MST 

Post#165 » by dr0welf » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:10 am

HappyProle wrote:This team now has two convincing wins over Sacramento and Toronto. Maybe they're not as terrible as I think they are.

A few things I noticed:

- Ty Corbin's adjustment to go small late in the game to help get CJ some zone-busting open shots paid off. Knowing CJ, such a move may never pay off again, but it did tonight.

- Al Jefferson was of course superb, but I still can't figure out why the other guys don't move an inch when he has the ball. Is it by design? Are they calling clear outs for him? Or have guys forgotten how to cut? I seem to recall guys cutting down the lane and across the baseline in the Jazz's offense, but this doesn't appear to happen much any more.

- I'm concerned that Jefferson didn't take a single free throw tonight. He's not always going to shoot 17-24. He's a good free throw shooter and needs to make an effort to get to the line.

- Hayward needs to drive to the basket more. He appears to have the handles and the athleticism to do so but lacks the confidence. I also thought we'd see him taking and making the "Harpring curl" shot with regularity by this time in the season.


I agree with a lot of your assesment. Some notes to add to what you have said.

- I think the small line up was a great counter to the problems the zone was having. I think it was a little late and us going to zone took way too long. But I do think you will see it happen more often when people try to pop a zone on us.
- The players are standing still, it's a sign that they don't understand the full function of the offense yet. You do see AK and Sap cut more then the others as they have played within the offense more and know where the cutting lanes are. You will see more players cut once they understand where they can and cannot. I remember seeing a couple games earlier this year where Hayward cut into someone elses cut lane. This caused a stall on offense and usually results in a turnover or a bad shot. You also saw him not cut and DWill get mad at him. The cutting will come

-Ever since DWill's trade we have no star power to get the calls from the refs. It is frustrating to watch as a fan as I feel a foul is a foul. But they seem to make the players create a name for themselves first before they get too many of the calls. Big Al should be looked at by now as someone who should be given some respect but they still treat him like a rookie most games.

-Ever since DWills blow up with Hayward he seems tentative to shoot the ball. The last couple games he has shot more but he needs to get the cutting down as previously discussed to open himself up for more open looks.
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Re: Jazz @ Raptors 5PM MST 

Post#166 » by BarneyGumble » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:47 pm

I'm sure this has been beat to death already but I just saw the box score (didnt see the game) and I haven't read this thread....but.....

DAYUM! Bell/Hayward going 2-11 for 5 points, 3 turnovers, and 4 assists? And Bell got 45 minutes?

Wow......

We should use every draft pick we have on shooting guards. Maybe we'll finally get someone who can make open shots.....
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Re: Jazz @ Raptors 5PM MST 

Post#167 » by Efernand » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:49 pm

DWill_daShizzle wrote:We should use every draft pick we have on shooting guards. Maybe we'll finally get someone who can make open shots.....


Problem is this draft is incredibly bad for shooting guards.
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Re: Jazz @ Raptors 5PM MST 

Post#168 » by carrottop12 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:24 pm

Devin Harris traveled.
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Re: Jazz @ Raptors 5PM MST 

Post#169 » by The59Sound » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:32 pm

Bat wrote:Devin Harris traveled.


I'd have to see the replay, but it's possible. And being on the receiving end of referee incompetence as often as we are, I'd feel genuinely bad about it.
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