azuresou1 wrote:Stats can easily be manipulated, and any statistician or analyst will tell you so. It's guys like Gongxi who clearly don't actually do much statistical analysis who think otherwise.
That definition is horrifically flawed because by its definition it's completely irrelevant to whether a shot is actually really a game winning opportunity or not. If I hit a shot with 30 seconds left to put my team up by one, the other team likely has at the minimum two shot attempts. The last 30 seconds is an eternity in basketball, and while performance there absolutely DOES matter, it'd be akin to saying that your performance in the 2 minute drill in football tells you which QB you'd want for the final play with 3 seconds left. Last 5 minutes/5 points is even worse; it'd be like your performance in the last 7 minutes of a football game.
And you must be kidding about LeBron's lack of fanboys.
Show me some manipulation then, if it's so easy.
First off, they use the final 24 seconds, not 30. What does it matter what happens after the shot is made? How your team defends after the fact is irrelevant to the shot that was just taken. If the teams gets the stop or not, the previous go ahead shot was still clutch. Using your football example, if a QB leads a drive down the field and scores with 15 seconds left to take the lead and then his defense/special teams blows it, is he any less clutch?
The last 5 mins/5 points is useful because is provides a much bigger sample size. The definition of clutch isn't perfect but it's certainly a reasonable definition.
I honestly don't see that many Lebron fanboys. Everybody in Cleveland hates him now, and the Heat don't really have many fans. Kobe's fanboys are far more numerous.
