Fire Spoelstra

buzzy · Post #1261 » by **buzzy** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:24 pm

Obviously that's what Riley's gonna say. He doesn't want the media to bother him any more.

I think that, unfortunately, he won't do any drastic changes this late into the season, but if we suffer a second round exit I don't see any way how Spoelstra's gonna keep his job.

YamiRain · Post #1262 » by **YamiRain** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:10 pm

Riles knew this was gonna happen, that and he doesn't wanna get bothered about spo.
Smart that he went to New York

truthiness · Post #1263 » by **truthiness** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:40 pm

Blubber Nugget wrote:
WallaceHeatNBA

Speaking to (Newark) Star-Ledger while at Big East Tourney, Pat Rileys says "write off" speculation about Spo's job security.

Is this the dreaded vote of confidence ?

DWadeno3 · Post #1264 » by **DWadeno3** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:38 pm

HIF wrote:
Blubber Nugget wrote:
WallaceHeatNBA

Speaking to (Newark) Star-Ledger while at Big East Tourney, Pat Rileys says "write off" speculation about Spo's job security.

So me and riles are on the same page. I'll settle for that

You most likely have not read the entire statement, in which he also said:

"It’s like anything else, like I always say, the playoffs will tell."

Trust me, if Spoelstra fails in the playoffs, his job is on the line. So no, Riles and you don't agree. You support Spoelstra no matter what, whereas Riley simply backs him because he knows a coaching change now wouldn't help much. Oh and he also doesn't want to be bugged by the media about it any longer. Classic Riley.

HIF · Post #1265 » by **HIF** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:41 pm

No, We agree completely.

The playoffs will tell.
I support spoelstra because I think he's as good as we can get - sadly better coaches like Pops won't come to the Heat, I also think a coaching change won't help. And I don't want to be bugged by the media or the whinging unrealistic "heat" fans - Like Riles we are both unlikely to get what we want.

laloo · Post #1266 » by **laloo** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:11 pm

But don’t make me go there today. You know what’s going to happen if I do that? In New York, if I didn’t create a crisis with the Knicks, the crisis was created for us. In Miami, it needs me to help it along just by opening my mouth.”

Says it all.

DWadeno3 · Post #1267 » by **DWadeno3** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:32 pm

HIF wrote:No, We agree completely.

The playoffs will tell.
I support spoelstra because I think he's as good as we can get - sadly better coaches like Pops won't come to the Heat, I also think a coaching change won't help. And I don't want to be bugged by the media or the whinging unrealistic "heat" fans - Like Riles we are both unlikely to get what we want.

Keep telling yourself that. You support Spoelstra no matter what and actually believe in his abilities. The only reason I think we can still win a championship is because we have the two best players in the league on our team who are proven playoff competitors. I expect us, however, to get outcoached in every series. We won't see many adjustments, especially not in the game, we won't see a good offense, heck we probably won't even have a set 8-man rotation come playoff time. We're the laughing stock of the league because of that guy and I'm done giving him time. Everybody sees how overstrained he is. I'm tired of being laughed at and made fun of.

HIF · Post #1268 » by **HIF** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:02 pm

DWadeno3 wrote:
HIF wrote:No, We agree completely.

The playoffs will tell.
I support spoelstra because I think he's as good as we can get - sadly better coaches like Pops won't come to the Heat, I also think a coaching change won't help. And I don't want to be bugged by the media or the whinging unrealistic "heat" fans - Like Riles we are both unlikely to get what we want.

Keep telling yourself that. You support Spoelstra no matter what and actually believe in his abilities. The only reason I think we can still win a championship is because we have the two best players in the league on our team who are proven playoff competitors. I expect us, however, to get outcoached in every series. We won't see many adjustments, especially not in the game, we won't see a good offense, heck we probably won't even have a set 8-man rotation come playoff time. We're the laughing stock of the league because of that guy and I'm done giving him time. Everybody sees how overstrained he is. I'm tired of being laughed at and made fun of.

I have no problem with you disagreeing with me. Can't agree with you telling me what I REALLY think though but I'll not argue that.

Obviously he will be strained - there has NEVER been a coach with this much of a potlight put on hie every word and action and inaction in the history of the NBA, nor so many waiting for him to **** up. We were laughed at and made fun of in 2007, at least this season we still have a good chance of having the last laugh. I still have no fear of Chicago in the playoffs - I hope we get them.

DWadeno3 · Post #1269 » by **DWadeno3** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:15 pm

HIF wrote:I have no problem with you disagreeing with me. Can't agree with you telling me what I REALLY think though but I'll not argue that.

Obviously he will be strained - there has NEVER been a coach with this much of a potlight put on hie every word and action and inaction in the history of the NBA, nor so many waiting for him to **** up. We were laughed at and made fun of in 2007, at least this season we still have a good chance of having the last laugh. I still have no fear of Chicago in the playoffs - I hope we get them.

I didn't tell you what you think but moreso questioned your interpretation of Riley's words.
In 2007, it didn't last as long as it does now. Sure, our first-round sweep was pathetic and painful and I'm still bitter about it (which is part of the reason I hate the Bulls), but after some time, nobody cared anymore. Now, every loss results in a huge laughter for the entire NBA world outside of the Heat fanbase.
Anyways, what we can agree on is that I also don't fear the Bulls and that we still have a decent shot at winning it all.

Nupe_1911 · Post #1270 » by **Nupe_1911** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:50 pm

Look, it really is irrelevant whether or not this fanbase (Heat) fears the Bulls, Celtics, Magic, Knicks. It is truly irrelevant. What is relevant is that of all the teams previously mentioned, the Heat are playing the worst during this last stretch of games leading to the playoffs. That is reality. The Heat also have the most inexperienced coach and generally the worst coach of all the aforementioned teams.

The playoffs will be very rough on the Heat and I am not expecting the team to pull a 180 at the very last minute. It is now March. The process has run it's course. The Heat are losing to top and mid tier teams. The Heat should not need some massive breakthrough to beat the Blazers and Knick's. The Heat are who they are right now. The players have definitely emulated their coaches personality and approach which is heavy rhetoric with little or no actual adjustments.

The Laker's game will not remotely make a difference win or lose. This team is pretty much done for the season and playoffs in all ways that matter.

WD · Post #1271 » by WD » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:09 pm

For years, my opinion has been that if you post another view about the HEAT that is not praising Pat Riley, Eric, The Team, etc. people start trying to qualify the poster. It's like they want to spin everything negative into something positive. They don't know real alternative answers or solutions, jut continue to argue their point.

If we lose a game, it's always something the players did not do - when we try to consider what the coach could have done more (although it gets overblown sometimes) people got straight to criticizing the poster or look to see how long they've been on the board, etc.

No one knows how many games each of us attends, if we're season ticket holders, buy merchandise, etc. We all love this team (I think) and should be allowed to share comments (both negative and positive) about this team. No one should be excluded. Remember, no one cares about what you did last year.

Eric is getting paid this year to take us as far as he can. If at the end of this season it is not far as this organization wants, something will/should happen. If it is indeed a 2 year process, then I just need to save my money so I can purchase NBA LP next year. I am gonna watch my heat team, no matter who's coaching, but I am also going to say what I feel.

5ickwithitxx · Post #1272 » by **5ickwithitxx** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:36 pm

Its just too bad, we have 2 HOF players (yes Wade/Bron will be there, don't be a niave idiot) and yet we are wasting their talent, heart and passion. They can play together but they have a dumbsh*t coach and weak ass players in Bosh and the bench......just very sad to see these 2 amazing players fight and guys like Mike and Joel and Spo and soft ass Bosh be just pathetic.

Riles · Post #1273 » by **Riles** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:50 pm

I have followed Riley's entire career and I am a big Riley guy. You always had a feeling that things would be "okay" because Riley was on the bench, kind of like how his soldiers viewed General Patton, you may not always like him but you knew with him there, he woud lead the way.

But another thing about Riley is that he is a smart guy and very protective of his place in the industry as both coach and GM. And Riley will not just jump into the flames with this current team because I beleieve in his heart, he knows that the pieces are not their for a championship this season, and with him jumping in to save the ship, only a championship would be good enough for his image. I believe you will see an adjustment in personell in the off season with a true big man and the other needed pieces and Riley will be on the bench at some point next season. Firing the current coach will not be an option because he is a Riley guy - he wont fire him and bring someone else in here to run teh team. When Spoelstra gets the heave, it can be and will only be Riley that he replaces him, it just wont be this year.

Merged to Fire Spoelstra thread. - LEIF -

BadMofoPimp · Post #1274 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:50 pm

Imagine Spo gettin the axe and Sloan taking over. That would be a dream. Dude deserves to get a tan and coach some stars after many years successfully coaching role players.

Flashpoint · Post #1275 » by **Flashpoint** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:08 pm

Riley's handling of this depresses me. That Spo has this job and continues to have this job is a product of Riley's ego. It reminds me of JJ taking over the Dolphins, building a championship defense then allowing his ego to sink the team by squandering Marino with ludicrous bootlegs called for the greatest pocket passer of all-time. Ego sucks. I'm sick of seeing it. It disappoints me that Riley isn't infallible. I want to believe in the man. That's why the 06 championship was so great. He was validated. After all those miserable playoff losses in the past.

I'm not sure SVG is a championship coach, but I am damn sure he's a better coach than ESpo. I don't know what the hell is gained by deluding ourselves into believing Spo is not a huge problem and completely incapable of winning a chip. Are we really going to surprised when we're kicked out of the playoffs? Then next year apologists can whine about hindsight when things were obvious at this point. I hate it when teams wait until the lowest point possible to make a move. Change only when things have become a debacle is a sure sign that your team is going nowhere. Taking over for SVG was a bold move and it was rewarded. Pop firing Hill and taking over himself was very bold and was rewarded multiple times. I hate this cowardly ****.

indiegrind · Post #1276 » by **indiegrind** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:41 pm

damitro · Post #1277 » by **damitro** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:01 pm

Why did you feel the need to make this a thread though? No disrespect, just asking?

Riles · Post #1278 » by **Riles** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:50 pm

damitro wrote::lol: Why did you feel the need to make this a thread though? No disrespect, just asking?

I'm new - learning the ropes

Miamis3rdRing · Post #1279 » by **Miamis3rdRing** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:54 pm

Riles wrote:
damitro wrote::lol: Why did you feel the need to make this a thread though? No disrespect, just asking?

I'm new - learning the ropes

Do not let go of the rope.

joelafan · Post #1280 » by **joelafan** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:22 pm

coolstorybro wrote:
Riles wrote:
damitro wrote::lol: Why did you feel the need to make this a thread though? No disrespect, just asking?

I'm new - learning the ropes

Do not let go of the rope.

Should Spoelstra be fired?