Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
Moderators: HiJiNX, 7 Footer, DG88, niQ, Duffman100, tsherkin, Reeko, Morris_Shatford, lebron stopper
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
-
Double Helix
- Retired Mod

- Posts: 32,615
- And1: 29,209
- Joined: Jun 26, 2002
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
The more I think about it the more I'm convinced Jones doesn't drop below the top 5 unless he's crazy or extremely demanding.
Imagine how Josh Smith would have looked at a college as a 19 year-old with Jones' hype? people would probably be asking the same questions and asking the same things. They'd criticize his shot. They'd ask which position he should play. They'd wonder how he'd fit in and whether he could be an impact player.
I remember those questions being asked of Josh Smith as a high schooler and I remember thinking they were valid. It might be the same thing with Jones. He might be non-traditional but freakish enough in good ways that you'll feel stupid for passing on him later on. I'm sure a lot of GMs feel the same way about passing on Josh Smith today.
Imagine how Josh Smith would have looked at a college as a 19 year-old with Jones' hype? people would probably be asking the same questions and asking the same things. They'd criticize his shot. They'd ask which position he should play. They'd wonder how he'd fit in and whether he could be an impact player.
I remember those questions being asked of Josh Smith as a high schooler and I remember thinking they were valid. It might be the same thing with Jones. He might be non-traditional but freakish enough in good ways that you'll feel stupid for passing on him later on. I'm sure a lot of GMs feel the same way about passing on Josh Smith today.

Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
- baulderdash77
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,579
- And1: 235
- Joined: Jun 12, 2003
-
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
Rhettmatic wrote:Reignman wrote:You're right! UNC down only 51-55 with Barnes shooting 7-11 for 18/4/2.
I can't watch the game, unfortunately, but I see that he's taken 8 threes. Has he been scoring in other ways or just taking jumpers?
4/8 from the 3 is pretty good. It's part of why they're back in it.

Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
-
yayotube
- Pro Prospect
- Posts: 982
- And1: 59
- Joined: Aug 19, 2009
- Location: Borough's Finest
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
Rhettmatic wrote:Reignman wrote:You're right! UNC down only 51-55 with Barnes shooting 7-11 for 18/4/2.
I can't watch the game, unfortunately, but I see that he's taken 8 threes. Has he been scoring in other ways or just taking jumpers?
Pretty much just jumpers, but as a whole UNC couldn't score at all.
They're on a ridiculous run as of late and most of their scoring seems to be coming from the perimeter
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
-
Reignman
- Banned User
- Posts: 19,281
- And1: 391
- Joined: Aug 12, 2004
- Location: 2014 playoffs at the ACC!
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
Rhettmatic wrote:Reignman wrote:You're right! UNC down only 51-55 with Barnes shooting 7-11 for 18/4/2.
I can't watch the game, unfortunately, but I see that he's taken 8 threes. Has he been scoring in other ways or just taking jumpers?
Sorry Rhett, I'm at work so I'm just following the box score.
If anyone can break down Barnes' game we'd really appreciate it, thanks in advance!
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
-
Reignman
- Banned User
- Posts: 19,281
- And1: 391
- Joined: Aug 12, 2004
- Location: 2014 playoffs at the ACC!
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
Man, if his 3 pt shot is really as good as it has looked over the last couple of months and he can continue to defend and rebound very well in the NBA, then I could see him and Demar forming a very nice 2/3 combo that compliment each other perfectly.
Any thoughts?
Any thoughts?
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
- Rhettmatic
- Retired Mod

- Posts: 21,081
- And1: 14,547
- Joined: Jul 23, 2006
- Location: Toronto
-
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
Double Helix wrote:The more I think about it the more I'm convinced Jones doesn't drop below the top 5 unless he's crazy or extremely demanding.
Imagine how Josh Smith would have looked at a college as a 19 year-old with Jones' hype? people would probably be asking the same questions and asking the same things. They'd criticize his shot. They'd ask which position he should play. They'd wonder how he'd fit in and whether he could be an impact player.
I remember those questions being asked of Josh Smith as a high schooler and I remember thinking they were valid. It might be the same thing with Jones. He might be non-traditional but freakish enough in good ways that you'll feel stupid for passing on him later on. I'm sure a lot of GMs feel the same way about passing on Josh Smith today.
I'm absolutely terrified of Jones because I think it's probably more likely than not that he winds up a bust. Still, his upside is substantial enough that I wouldn't be upset at all if we took him.

Sig by the one and only Turbo_Zone.
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
-
yayotube
- Pro Prospect
- Posts: 982
- And1: 59
- Joined: Aug 19, 2009
- Location: Borough's Finest
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
Reignman wrote:Rhettmatic wrote:Reignman wrote:You're right! UNC down only 51-55 with Barnes shooting 7-11 for 18/4/2.
I can't watch the game, unfortunately, but I see that he's taken 8 threes. Has he been scoring in other ways or just taking jumpers?
Sorry Rhett, I'm at work so I'm just following the box score.
If anyone can break down Barnes' game we'd really appreciate it, thanks in advance!
I started watching the game when he was 4-7 which included 2-3 from 3 point land. Since then, he's hit three more 3 pointers in the second half and seemed to be the only one who could score at all on UNC.
He seems to be comfortable bringing the ball up the court and he just has a quiet confidence that you couldn't really see in the beginning of the year. I haven't seen him try to attack the rim though, strictly J's
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
- Rhettmatic
- Retired Mod

- Posts: 21,081
- And1: 14,547
- Joined: Jul 23, 2006
- Location: Toronto
-
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
baulderdash77 wrote:Rhettmatic wrote:Reignman wrote:You're right! UNC down only 51-55 with Barnes shooting 7-11 for 18/4/2.
I can't watch the game, unfortunately, but I see that he's taken 8 threes. Has he been scoring in other ways or just taking jumpers?
4/8 from the 3 is pretty good. It's part of why they're back in it.
Yeah, I wasn't trying to marginalize what he's doing but I would like to see more from him than just his jumper, that's all.
Thanks everyone who helped answer my question.

Sig by the one and only Turbo_Zone.
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
-
DreamTeam09
- RealGM
- Posts: 17,669
- And1: 11,037
- Joined: Jan 06, 2009
- Location: Scarborough
-
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
I'm glad that I see some posters giving in to the idea of us drafting PJ and putting him at SF. As a poster note above, in the NBA I think he'd be a sag off defender who hopefully can react and cover with his size and athletic ability. I really like the article that some1 posted about him possibly being a point foward which would ideal for our team. He could create for others at different spots on the floor as oppose to a pg. He definately should be an above avg rebounder at the SF spot. It just gives us more stable options and a direction we can go after the draft with more draft eligeble prospects for us to select.

In Raptor Ball I Trust
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
- baulderdash77
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,579
- And1: 235
- Joined: Jun 12, 2003
-
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
Zeller comes through with a jumper and it's a tie game- 40 seconds left. Great game.

Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
-
DreamTeam09
- RealGM
- Posts: 17,669
- And1: 11,037
- Joined: Jan 06, 2009
- Location: Scarborough
-
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
where are you guys catching the game?

In Raptor Ball I Trust
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
-
Reignman
- Banned User
- Posts: 19,281
- And1: 391
- Joined: Aug 12, 2004
- Location: 2014 playoffs at the ACC!
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
Sounds like it's time for Barnes to hit his 5th game winner of the season.
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
- baulderdash77
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,579
- And1: 235
- Joined: Jun 12, 2003
-
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
22 second left- UNC ball.
Zellar scores with 2 seconds left. UNC wins.
Zellar scores with 2 seconds left. UNC wins.

Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
- Rhettmatic
- Retired Mod

- Posts: 21,081
- And1: 14,547
- Joined: Jul 23, 2006
- Location: Toronto
-
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
Ohio State just won in OT over Northwestern.
Sullinger put up 22 and 17. Shot atrociously from the floor (3 of 15) but was very good from the line (16-18).
Sullinger put up 22 and 17. Shot atrociously from the floor (3 of 15) but was very good from the line (16-18).

Sig by the one and only Turbo_Zone.
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
-
FluLikeSymptoms
- Retired Mod

- Posts: 19,115
- And1: 8,718
- Joined: Nov 26, 2004
- Location: TBD
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
Kendall Marshall can ball. He's the heart and soul of UNC, and if they do anything in the tourney he could skyrocket.
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
-
dagger
- RealGM
- Posts: 41,400
- And1: 14,452
- Joined: Aug 19, 2002
-
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
Reignman wrote:Sounds like it's time for Barnes to hit his 5th game winner of the season.
Guess not. He wasn't very clutch down the stretch either. Ten of 13 shots behind the arc. No free throws. One trick pony.
2019 will never be forgotten because FLAGS FLY FOREVER
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
-
jsmith
- Senior
- Posts: 539
- And1: 9
- Joined: Apr 07, 2008
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
Reignman wrote:Man, if his 3 pt shot is really as good as it has looked over the last couple of months and he can continue to defend and rebound very well in the NBA, then I could see him and Demar forming a very nice 2/3 combo that compliment each other perfectly.
Any thoughts?
I like the idea in theory, not completely sold on Barnes yet. He doesn't seem to create shots using the dribble against a tough defender, but he is still learning.
I would be happy if we took him.
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
- baulderdash77
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,579
- And1: 235
- Joined: Jun 12, 2003
-
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
He's a great defender and a good rebounder & passer. But he's really a jump shooter at this point.

Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
-
Silk Wilkes
- Banned User
- Posts: 10,533
- And1: 10
- Joined: Aug 28, 2004
- Location: In between a pimp and a hard place
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
Taking Perry Jones is enticing to me but I just know the Raps are gonna try and make him a Power Forward or Centre. If we draft him, we need a MUCH smarter coach.
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
- Salted Meat
- Starter
- Posts: 2,489
- And1: 1,572
- Joined: Jun 27, 2007
Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3
dagger wrote:Reignman wrote:Sounds like it's time for Barnes to hit his 5th game winner of the season.
Guess not. He wasn't very clutch down the stretch either. Ten of 13 shots behind the arc. No free throws. One trick pony.
Sure, if you don't consider playing solid defense a trick.







