Jordan Farmar is taking over!!

[Shaq Daddy]

Nets Clippers

Dude is CLUTCH

[stunnar0b]

at this point i would rather have farmar then blake, he would atleast force the issue and go to the hole where blake will either pass it back to the post to a soft gasol that will settle for a jumper or if we're lucky he'll shoot a push three point shot only to miss it. ughh i dont know bout this guy

[Mamba Venom]

Blake started strong. 1st season in the triangle = not his best season.

Is Farmar starting...no...then why did he leave LA when Fisher is 36...dumbass Ariza type move.

[That Nicka]

not really... but he is better than Steve Blake

[MoLakers]

i think one positive thing thats helping both farmar and vujacic is that avery johnson is major backing these dudes. hes giving them confidence and big playing time, so we're seeing their ceiling as players. farmars always been aggresive with the ball and willing to shoot. i just hope blake starts to get some aggresiveness on the offensive end.

[microfib4thewin]

Blake started strong. 1st season in the triangle = not his best season.

Is Farmar starting...no...then why did he leave LA when Fisher is 36...dumbass Ariza type move.

He left LA because the Lakers didn't want him back. Ariza left because Kupchak already has his eyes on getting Artest. It's stupid to blame the players on this when it's the management who decided to not resign them.

[DEEP3CL]

Blake started strong. 1st season in the triangle = not his best season.

Is Farmar starting...no...then why did he leave LA when Fisher is 36...dumbass Ariza type move.

Well put Mamba, it only shows how damn impatient he was and he probably thought the job should just be handed to him.

[laduane1]

Phil does not play young players. Farmar got out to save his career. He needed time on the court and Phil does not give that to the young players. Once phil is retired. Maybe younger players will develope in LA. Plus Farmar wanted more money than the Lakers wanted to pay him. No loss

[DEEP3CL]

He left LA because the Lakers didn't want him back.

True, but Jordan had checked out of here long before management decided they didn't want him back. It was a lot of stuff that went on behind the scenes.

Ariza left because Kupchak already has his eyes on getting Artest.

Nope microfib, your smarter than that.......you know full well the Lakers wanted to negotiate with Trev. His dumb ass agent started everything by first trying to play the Lakers in the media, and secondly you just don't try to strong arm Dr.Buss period. Ask LO how that went ? The Lakers had every intention to bring Trev back, but him listening to his dick head agent ruined all that. Ron basically fell into our lap because he want to come here in the first place, in a way Mitch did have his eye on Ron but only if we lost Trev.

Once Trev's agent tweaked out, Mitch who over the years learned how to be ruthless as a GM said "F you" to David Lee. That's why Mitch called Ron at 9pm the minute the free agent window opened.

It's stupid to blame the players on this when it's the management who decided to not resign them.

Gotta agree with Mamba on this one, sometimes it's one the players to use their damn heads. Jordan F'd off his status here by being a dumb ass hard head, and Trev put his trust in a dick head agent who didn't even get Trev the deal he thought he could get.

[96 Til Infiniti]

Ironically both Sasha and Jordan started last night against the Clips.

[TylersLakers]

I think it's funny that our bench players who played 10 minutes a game on nights if they didn't play at all are starting for other teams. Credit to Mitch and the Buss family.

He left because we didn't want him back. If Jordan Farmar is your lead guard.. I don't think you'll ever become a serious contending team. That's why he's on the Nets.

[dockingsched]

it was just time to part ways, no blame to go around.

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/n ... id=5317233

nothing wrong with farmar wanting to see what kind of player he could become.

The hope for Farmar to remain in L.A. seems far more unlikely.

Farmar started only two regular season games in his career in L.A., both in his rookie season. He averaged 4.4 points and 1.9 assists in 15.1 minutes in his first year; 9.1 and 2.7 in 20.6 in his second year; 6.4 and 2.4 in 18.3 in his third year; and 7.2 and 1.5 in 18.0 this season.

"It's definitely a struggle for me because my role hasn't expanded much in four years," Farmar said. "That was kind of the plan going into every year, to get a little more and a little more and it's kind of stayed the same."

While his role didn't expand the way he would have liked it to, he enjoyed an amazing string of success in the city, following up his NCAA championship appearance in his sophomore year at UCLA with three trips to the NBA Finals in four years and winning two rings.

"For me in my career, I've always played at a championship level," Farmar said. "I definitely want to win and that's important to me, but I don't know if I could look back at the end of my career if didn't get a chance to see what kind of player I could really be, so this free agency is kind of what it's geared towards for me. I want to check that out and see the situation, whether it be here or elsewhere, where I really get a chance to see what I can do."

Farmar said that practicing as a proxy Russell Westbrook, Deron Williams, Steve Nash and Rajon Rondo on the scout team intensified his desire to start.

"It just let me feel that again every day, having the ball," he said.

"I really want to see what kind of player I can be in this league," Farmar said. "I want an opportunity to play more. I know I can do a lot. I know I can lead a team."

When Farmar was asked prior to Game 7 if playing the Celtics in a do-or-die situation to win a championship was a dream scenario for a L.A. native like himself, Farmar said if it was truly a dream scenario, he would be the Lakers starting point guard.

"If I come off the bench and continue to, that's just what is going to happen my whole career and I'm going to be looked at as that type of player when I feel I can do so, so much more," Farmar said before later adding, "I'm just looking forward to the next phase of life."

and the part about the lakers not wanting him, well may be they didn't, but they weren't going to hold farmar hostage and were good enough to him to let him go on his way.

http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblo ... s-now.html

The Lakers decided Wednesday not to give restricted guard Jordan Farmar a one-year, $3-million contract offer.

It means that Farmar becomes an unrestricted free agent, and that the Lakers could lose him and get nothing in return when the free-agency period begins at 9:01 p.m. Pacific time Wednesday.

If the Lakers had tendered Farmar a deal, known as a qualifying offer, he would have remained a restricted free agent and they would have had the rights to match any offer sheet he signed with another team.

"The Lakers cared enough to let me become a free agent," Farmar said in a phone interview. "I was excited to hear it. I was real happy. If I do decide to leave, I'll have nothing but positive things to remember about the Lakers."

[chyau.00]

Phil does not play young players. Farmar got out to save his career. He needed time on the court and Phil does not give that to the young players. Once phil is retired. Maybe younger players will develope in LA. Plus Farmar wanted more money than the Lakers wanted to pay him. No loss

phil knows what his priorities are. he plays whoever is going to get him a championship.
he played a bunch of 'young' players when the lakers were sh*t. its not fair to say 'phil doesnt play young players' when the young players on his team don't deserve the minutes.

if those young players are worth his time, he will play them. see scottie pippen, kobe bryant, derek fisher.

it really isnt phils fault that all his young players are late 1st round picks or 2nd rounders.

[microfib4thewin]

True, but Jordan had checked out of here long before management decided they didn't want him back. It was a lot of stuff that went on behind the scenes.

You'd need to find something specific to make that kind of assumption. Bickering with coaches, being cocky, and not playing well within the Triangle is not an indication that he wanted out, that's just who he is as a person and as a player.

Nope microfib, your smarter than that.......you know full well the Lakers wanted to negotiate with Trev.

He told Lee to find offers from other teams so he can determine if he was willing to match it. He treated Ariza like a restricted FA and Lee used that to make Kupchak look bad in the media. Mitch figured that Artest might have an interest in coming here so he told Lee to screw off. If he was trying to negotiate a new deal with Ariza he may have missed his chance on Artest.

Credit Mitch for being smart and letting Artest know there is an opening for him. Ariza has nothing to do with it.

People here also need to stop thinking that players should place playing with the Lakers above all else. If they can get an opportunity to showcase themselves or get a fatter contract by playing elsewhere, by all means they should go for it. The Lakers is probably the only basketball team where there is a sizable fanbase that consistently diss ex-players for leaving just because of 'Well, it's the Lakers, they would be stupid to join another team". Get off your high horses, there are other justified incentives for a player aside from being on a contender.

[DEEP3CL]

People here also need to stop thinking that players should place playing with the Lakers above all else. If they can get an opportunity to showcase themselves or get a fatter contract by playing elsewhere, by all means they should go for it. The Lakers is probably the only basketball team where there is a sizable fanbase that consistently diss ex-players for leaving just because of 'Well, it's the Lakers, they would be stupid to join another team". Get off your high horses, there are other justified incentives for a player aside from being on a contender.

Microfib, I'm not one of the guys you're trying to peg as thinking "it's the Lakers above all". I've seen many players come and go here, but I keep things in reality too, and for Trev his decision was dumb. Dumb because as a player he he let an inexperience ass agent screw him out of a solid career opportunity. I'm never mad at a player who leaves for a chance to show what he can do or get a solid financial footing for life after ball.

But I do question players who make dumb ass decisions because their agent told them, "trust me I can get you more money" or " I can get you to where you need to be". You think Trev is the first to do this ? No he isn't, for me being a guy who's seen decades of NBA ball and can name a plethora of guys who screwed themselves at the hands of putting too much trust in his agent.

Remember Drew has the same agent, and when his deal was up Drew flat out told him to get a deal done with the Lakers because he wasn't leaving LA period. Trev was just the middle man, that battle was left over residue from the Drew battle. It was always a battle between Mitch and David Lee, and we know who won both times.

[Tee212]

microfib4thewin should be the new laker mod, i agree with you.

[mike-]

Jordan Farmar is terrible and I will never miss him.

[microfib4thewin]

Microfib, I'm not one of the guys you're trying to peg as thinking "it's the Lakers above all". I've seen many players come and go here, but I keep things in reality too, and for Trev his decision was dumb. Dumb because as a player he he let an inexperience ass agent screw him out of a solid career opportunity. I'm never mad at a player who leaves for a chance to show what he can do or get a solid financial footing for life after ball.

But I do question players who make dumb ass decisions because their agent told them, "trust me I can get you more money" or " I can get you to where you need to be". You think Trev is the first to do this ? No he isn't, for me being a guy who's seen decades of NBA ball and can name a plethora of guys who screwed themselves at the hands of putting too much trust in his agent.

Remember Drew has the same agent, and when his deal was up Drew flat out told him to get a deal done with the Lakers because he wasn't leaving LA period. Trev was just the middle man, that battle was left over residue from the Drew battle. It was always a battle between Mitch and David Lee, and we know who won both times.

Again, it was never a money issue. Mitch simply did not offer Lee anything, hence Lee talking to the media about Kupchak not acting in good faith. Artest expressed his interest in joining the Lakers before, so he left the road open for him by ignoring Ariza and his agent. If it was really about the money, Ariza would not have been so quick to sign with Houston for the MLE, which is something he could have gotten from any other team. He would have waited to see if any team can offer more.

And uh, Bynum's deal was not 'up'. It was due for an extension or the team will need to match any offer sheet from another team in the offseason. For the record, we paid Bynum 14 mil/year for playing well over half a season, and if Mitch did not budge and dare Bynum to become a restricted FA we could have extended him for much less since he was injured right after he signed that extension. Also, there was a possibility that Portland could have given Bynum a ridiculous offer(they had 18 mil of capspace) in the offseason, and that possibility was erased when Darius Miles started playing games for the Grizzles which put Mile's contract back on Portland's payroll. Mitch jumped the gun too quickly on that one, I question the Bynum extension then, and I still say the extension sucks now. He's playing very well currently, but it doesn't justify 14 mil a year when his health status is always in question and his defense is inconsistent throughout his career.

[dockingsched]

in regards to the ariza stuff, i agree with micro, ariza gets a bad rap for absolutely no reason. lakers wanted artest over ariza, simple as that to me. to blame ariza for that is non-sense.


as far bynum, the high per yr amount was the price to pay for having a shorter contract with a team option. lakers got the luxury of having less guaranteed yrs, which i think is more valuable when talking about a player who might not be the healthiest player around.

[DEEP3CL]

I think you guys are getting me confused a bit, I've never blamed Trev. I blamed his agent in the whole process, like I said David Lee was hell bent on beating the Lakers in some from or fashion, he never accepted the fact that he couldn't steer Drew away or break the bank with the Lakers. The deal we gave Drew was fair and to a degree probably a bit too much considering how unhealthy he had been.

As far as Trev, as a player don't tell me you can't have any input on where you play. It's total BS to think that way, what troubled me with Trev was that he was never vocal in the matter. He left it all in Lee's hands, from the beginning Lee thought Trev could command 8-10 mil a year. We all knew that was insane and laughed our assess off when we heard it.

Bottom line is this if Lee was a smart agent who knew the market that Trev could command, and had a better understanding on which organization he was working with Trev would still be here today.

Fellas agents screw up a lot and it's been well documented on how they've F'd players out of good deals. It's happened in all 3 sports, hell truth be told if Artest agent hadn't screwed up in Ron's last year in Sacramento he wouldn't be a Laker today. I blamed his agent for him not being here not Trev, his agent lit the wrong match and got burned period.