Prospect Watch Thread

[bluethunder0005]

i dont think we would have to do anything with Beasley. We would have good depth

I view depth for this team as a good and bad thing. We can't have a bunch of 21-25 year olds who need playing time to develop getting just 25-30 minutes a night. For example to keep all 3 it'd have to be something like this.

PG: Rubio 32/Ridnour 16
SG: Johnson 34/Barnes 14
SF: Beasley 34/Barnes 14
PF: Love 35/Randolph 13
C: Darko 30/Pek13/Randolph 5

That means we'd to ship Flynn/Ellington/Webster/Tolliver/the Memphis pick for practically nothing. Players need playing time to develop and they can't do that if the coach is trying to be fair and give everyone a fair share of the minutes. Our team isn't good right now but everyone on our bench is capable of being a NBA player.

[collin_k41]

I was already on the Barnes bandwagon but the Clemson game just shows what he's capable of, being a #1 option. If he doesn't declare this year, I hope we go big with our top pick. Athletic Center type, just not Perry Jones.

[jpatrick]

I only caught part of his game today but what he did down the stretch was cold blooded. I haven't been his biggest fan but I was impressed. I still don't think he's a go-to scorer in the NBA. He doesn't have the athletic ability to be a number one on a championship team but he would be a very nice number two or three if he keeps developing. Because of that I actually think he works really well with Beasley. Beasley's counterpart on the wing has to be a guy who can shoot, facilitate a little and who doesn't need the ball to be sucessful. To me if Barnes can tighten his handle just a little, he fits that description

I still think you take Irving number one. After that I don't know. Who do we take at two? Barnes? Jonas V? I'm not a fan of either Jones and no way Sullinger fits and Williams probably doesn't either.

[moss_is_1]

I only caught part of his game today but what he did down the stretch was cold blooded. I haven't been his biggest fan but I was impressed. I still don't think he's a do to scorer in the NBA. He doesn't have the athletic ability to be a number one on a championship team but he would be a very nice number two or three if he keeps developing. Because of that I actually think he works really well with Beasley. Beasleys counterpart on the wing has to be a guy who can shoot, facilitate a little and who.doesn't need the ball to be sucessful. To me if Barnes can tighten his handle just a little, he fits.that description

I still think you take Irving number one. After that I don't know. Who we take at two? Barnes? Jonas?

He's not a jump out of the gym guy, or have great quickness but c'mon...who says you have to be an elite athlete to be a #1 guy anyway though?he could improve his handles and be that guy.

[Klomp]

OT in LA

[Cyborg21]

Isaiah Thomas!

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Isaiah Thomas!

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BYU coming back

[eyeteeth]

I only caught part of his game today but what he did down the stretch was cold blooded. I haven't been his biggest fan but I was impressed. I still don't think he's a do to scorer in the NBA. He doesn't have the athletic ability to be a number one on a championship team but he would be a very nice number two or three if he keeps developing. Because of that I actually think he works really well with Beasley. Beasleys counterpart on the wing has to be a guy who can shoot, facilitate a little and who.doesn't need the ball to be sucessful. To me if Barnes can tighten his handle just a little, he fits.that description

I still think you take Irving number one. After that I don't know. Who we take at two? Barnes? Jonas?

He's not a jump out of the gym guy, or have great quickness but c'mon...who says you have to be an elite athlete to be a #1 guy anyway though?he could improve his handles and be that guy.

Your example of a legit #1 scorer in the NBA without top-shelf athleticism is?

[Devilzsidewalk]

I wouldn't say Melo has elite athleticism, but in general its a necessity unless you're a monster from 3

[AQuintus]

Your example of a legit #1 scorer in the NBA without top-shelf athleticism is?

Pierce. Historically, Bird is the gold standard for elite players without elite athleticism.

[eyeteeth]

Yes. Or else some kind of wicked first step and ball handling, a la Paul Pierce or Brandon Roy.

Barnes needs to produce at the level he did today throughout the NCAA to convince me he's worth a high draft choice.

[Devilzsidewalk]

Barnes didn't show the midrange game that makes Roy and Pierce the guys they are, maybe he develops it, but the 40 was literally all threes and freethrows w/ a couple layups in between

[jpatrick]

I think Pierce or maybe Joe Johnson are Barnes absolute maximum upside. To reach that level he's really going to have to improve his ball handling and ability to get in the lane. I think it's much more likely he settles in as a Luol Deng type player which is a very good player, a fringe all star type. To me his floor is Marvin Williams who is still a solid starter IMO.

[Cyborg21]

Kemba Walker, Kyrie Irving or Harrison Barnes?

[AQuintus]

Kemba Walker, Kyrie Irving or Harrison Barnes?

Irving is the only one of those three I would definitely take with our pick, Barnes is quickly getting there, and Walker isn't even on my radar.

[cpfsf]

I'm surprised Enes Kanter hasn't really been discussed as an option. Not really a sexy pick, but I think he's a decent if we fail epically in the lottery. I would rank him fifth on my board assuming he does well in the workouts.

[[RCG]]

The way I see it I can rationalize taking

Irving, P. Jones, Barnes, D. Williams, E. Kanter

so even getting the #5 pick wouldn't be the worst in the world,

[Esohny]

I'm surprised Enes Kanter hasn't really been discussed as an option. Not really a sexy pick, but I think he's a decent if we fail epically in the lottery. I would rank him fifth on my board assuming he does well in the workouts.

Yeah, I'd probably go Kanter if Irving and Barnes were gone.

[AQuintus]

I'm surprised Enes Kanter hasn't really been discussed as an option. Not really a sexy pick, but I think he's a decent if we fail epically in the lottery. I would rank him fifth on my board assuming he does well in the workouts.

Kanter reminds me too much of Big Al, and we all know how an Al/Love front court worked out, and on top of that, there are reports that he has bad knees. And on top of that, he hasn't played high level, competitive basketball for more than a year now, that's a major risk for a top 5 pick.

The way I see it I can rationalize taking

Irving, P. Jones, Barnes, D. Williams, E. Kanter

so even getting the #5 pick wouldn't be the worst in the world

Not a fan at all of Perry Jones, he's incredibly soft and doesn't have the mentality to be a great player, all of the draft reports I've read seem to have Derrick Williams pegged as a faceup 4, so I don't see the fit on this team, and I already went over Kanter above.

To me the draft board would go Irving, Jonas V, and then trade the pick away; with Barnes being able to get in behind Irving if he keeps on having a great March.