GT March 13th: Charlotte @ Tortono 1:00pm

[Battery]

Henderson definitely had the better game today but Demar is having a better season. I might be biased in saying this but I think Demar will have the better career overall.

Demar is having a better season obviously. Remember though, Hendo was a bench player the 1st half of the season with the LB shackles on. Hendo is just as athletic as Demar. He is a better mid range shooter. I'll give Demar the long range cuz Hendo doesn't have that yet. Hendo is a much better defender and will have a better career baring any injury.

Henderson hurt his knee during training camp and it lingered into the season. Then he missed about a month worth of games. Funny how quick people forget this.

[Stun704]

Raptor fans have to have the lowest bbiq's out all the fanbases on realgm. Henderson is light years ahead of derozen defensively, has the same or similar athleticism, and hendo's mid range is superior, derozen has a better 3 pt shot, but not enough fo him to make up the spread

[strudel forever]

Raptor fans have to have the lowest bbiq's out all the fanbases on realgm. Henderson is light years ahead of derozen defensively, has the same or similar athleticism, and hendo's mid range is superior, derozen has a better 3 pt shot, but not enough fo him to make up the spread

Derozan doesn't have anything close to a 3 pt shot. It's actually completely and utterly non existent. Maybe you're new to the game and are confusing the 3 point line with the foul line?? His midrange and post game however will be absolutely lethal in a couple years and he can already get to the line at a good rate, since his body control is much superior to Hendo's (despite being physically undeveloped). And you're calling out other fan bases for a lack of bbiq?? lol

[amcoolio]

derozen has a better 3 pt shot

He is shooting 9% from 3 point land this season, I'd hope Henderson has a better shot than that.

The only thing Derozan has on Henderson is that DD is more aggressive and has had a lot of playing time, whereas this is basically Henderson's rookie season and he just started playing since the beginning of January (3 months). Had Henderson been in Toronto and been playing as much as Derozan has in his career thus far, I think Henderson would have the same if not better stats.

Henderson's problem is that he is still passive and doesn't demand the ball enough. But then again, we have a primary scorer in S-Jax and all the Raps have besides DD that wants to play offense is Bargnani who is basically comfortable being a spot up shooter at this point.

I like DD, but I don't think its fair to compare the two considering DD has played (estimate) 1000 more minutes than Henderson. And I think Henderson is already becoming an elite defender, which is why I'd take Henderson if I had the choice of the two.

[Battery]

derozen has a better 3 pt shot

He is shooting 9% from 3 point land this season,

[BigSlam]

Just got done watching the 1st qtr. My thoughts:

- DJA put up the worst floater down the lane in the 1st qtr. He's got to work that out and add it to his bag of tricks.

- Reggie Evans is in a contract year. Wonder how much he will cost this summer? He would be great backing up Tyrus.

- Speaking of Tryus - he looks rusty, which is to be expected.

- Hendo dribbles to the baseline corner too much. Got to be careful taking the ball to a dead area like that when you haven't got the handles to get out of a potentially sticky situation.

- I thought DJA did a great job of defending the P&R against Calderon. He seemed to go under and go over at the right times.

- Jax posted up Bayless on iso's really, really well - just the way I like him to.

- Ritchie's turn around, fading jumper in the 2nd was really nice. I like busting out that move when I play!

- Jax looked like he tweaked his back when he tipped in a Ritchie miss.

- Livingston really is horrible at passing the ball. He couldn't even hit Hendo in stride off a curl.

More from me at the "half".

[fatlever]

both henderson and derozan are atrocious 3pt shooters. lets clear that up right now.

henderson and derozan both have a grand total of 3 three pointers made this year.

using posistion stats from yahoo fantasy - sgs who averaging over 15 minutes per game who have less 3pt made than hendo and derozan.

stephan graham - 0
damion james - 0
josh childress - 0

thats it. thats the entire list. so i think its safe to say that derozan and henderson are the two worst 3pt shooters among starting shooting guards.

[BigSlam]

Thoughts at the half:

- Lots of phantom fouls called on us in the 2nd. One of Tyrus. One on Mexicat, one on Kwa-Man, one on Diaw. On the other hand, they missed obvious calls against the Raps (Johnson pushing Jax and Jax called for a travel, ball tipped away from Livingston and out of bounds but called a Raps ball, Johnson pushing off Jax for offensive boards).

- Jax trying to force the issue way too much.

- Aggressive Diaw is a great thing.

- Hendo with a nice pass (dribbled to the dead corner again though) to DJW who was, once again, at the front of the rim - right place, right time.

- Hendo is a whole lot better than DeRozan, but I already knew that before watching this 1st half.

- I like Ed Davis. A lot.

- Our rebounding sucked. It looked like we had no energy on the boards at all and were really sloppy.

- DJW has been particularly bad on the boards. He's had great position several occasions but hasn't come away with the rebound because he was out hustled. Maybe his timing was just a little off? Maybe it's just that Reggie Evans is a fracking handful on the glass?

[Inflymous]

Post allstar stats
Demar 35 min 46% 90% 20.1 3.4 2.1 0.3
Gerald 32 min 43% 81% 13.8 3.1 2.1 1.1

Demar is also 2 years younger

[fatlever]

Post allstar stats
Demar 35 min 46% 90% 20.1 3.4 2.1 0.3
Gerald 32 min 43% 81% 13.8 3.1 2.1 1.1

Demar is also 2 years younger

no doubt derozan has been scoring the ball really well of late.

[countryboi]

raptor fans: where trolling happens

[Battery]

Post allstar stats
Demar 35 min 46% 90% 20.1 3.4 2.1 0.3
Gerald 32 min 43% 81% 13.8 3.1 2.1 1.1

Demar is also 2 years younger

Means absolutely nothing. Toronto has had a MUCH easier post all star schedule 7 home 3 away lots of crappy teams and they went 3-7. Demar racking up points in extensive garbage time is what that is. While Gerald has played against tougher competition in more meaningful games both on the road and at home and the team had to deal with the loss of Wallace and Jackson for a few games. And we won a bunch of those games where Gerald was a big part of our success. When Demar's fancy stat line leads the Craptors to wins then come and post that comparison. Until then, Gerald right now is the much better all around player.

[BigSlam]

End of the 3rd:

- When Diaw hustled back to defend the Bargnani 3pt shot it looked like Diaw was running on ice. The mind was willing the the body just wasn't down with the plan.

- We have forced some horrible shots that were either off balance, contested or both.

- Ball movement picked up around the 7:30 min mark and resulted in much better shots (and a 10pt lead).

- If T2 had somehow found a way to throw down the Diaw looping, one handed hooked alley oop from one side of the court to the other it would have been something else. I think that if it wasn't T2's 2nd game back and was instead his 10th, he would have jammed it.

- DJA lighting it up this qtr - but getting no love from the refs on his drives. He should have an extra 4+ points this qtr from the line alone.

- Diaw can't and is not willing to take a charge to save his life. He should have gobbled up a charge then on a DeRozan drive but totally pussied out.

- DJA did a great job of defending Calderon in the 1st qtr - not so much in the 3rd.

- T2 showing Diaw how you take a charge. Nice work young fella.

- Purple Patch more an off white or ivory Patch tonight.

- T2 flops and flails a lot. Don't like it.

- I feel like we are playing down to the level of the Raps. We should be crushing them. They are really, really bad.

- DJW with a bad turn over off a good offensive rebound and rather than making amends, commits an even worse "and one" foul at the other end.

[BigSlam]

End of the game (finally!!)

- Ritchie played some good defense today. Great to see.

- We've gone inside to Kwa-Man on three consecutive plays - each of them really good passes (he was open and make great position). Such a shame he struggles to finish at times.

- What would a Bobcats game be without a Kwa-Man FT lane violation?

- Ritchie loving that mid range baseline J. He's feasting on it.

- I'm thinking I should rush out to pick up Evans from my fantasy league waiver wire considering my desperation for boards, but I have a feeling he wont be on the waiver wire any more.

- I'm not a fan of Livingston at all. Bayless (who with his tiny child like arms should have been dominated by Livingston and his length) totally smoked Livingston all game - and at both ends.

- I think Diaw just had a travel, a double dribble and a 3 second violation all in the same possession and all in the same sequence.

- If Hendo got a T for remonstrating with the ref when Barbosa was holding onto him during a rebound, how come Calderon didn't get a T when he spazzed out skipping down the court and waiving his hands like a pansy who Jax got SMOKED on his drive from the DJA steal and and save back inbounds to Jax?

- T2 takes ANOTHER charge. Take note Boris.

- Barbosa really know how to put spin on the ball off the glass.

- HEY - DJA HIT A FLOATER!!!!!

- OT: CRAP!! Looks like Love's double double streak is over. Rambis took him out with 4 mins to go with 6pts and 12 boards because the Wolves are getting smoked. Rambis is a douche. He should have left Love in.

- DeRozan with the baseline dunk. Hendo's baseline dunk earlier was better.

- Barbosa takes a lot of dirty/cheap shots - and because of that, Hendo just called him a mother f*cker right to his face when he hard fouled him (thanks for the extreme close up on Hendo's face as he mouthed "you mother f*cker" at Barbosa NBATV!!)

- T2 should have 12pts today but I'm guessing the rust from being out so long is still on his hands? Hope he dusts them off real quick. We really need him going forward.

- How many layers of shorts is Jax wearing?????

- Amazing recovery block from T2. Glad he finished the game on the high note, because he had a bit of a stinker.

[fatlever]

slam, i loved reading your recaps of the game. i guess when you go back and watch on delay it allows you to compile your thoughts in one long post rather than scattered through 50 different posts. good stuff.

and yes it was me who picked up reggie evans yesterday HAHA

[vorbis]

finally got a chance to watch this one. a few thoughts:

henderson is much, much more of a useful player than derozan. derozan clearly has more offensive potential due to his length and leaping ability, but i don't know if this guy will ever put it together. i would definitely take henderson over him if presented with that choice. henderson is just switched on. the way he got both derozan and barbosa frustrated at times during the game was a thing of beauty. as long as that little jumper is there he's going to have a place in a starting lineup somewhere. really excited about him.

dj has a sweet stroke and can easily tee off on lackadaisical P&R defense like toronto's. however, he seems to just check out of some defensive sequences and it's puzzling to me.

diaw is diaw. just when i think i'm out, you keep pulling me back in. just when i think i'm in, you keep pushing me back out.

kwame is really a useful player. he's a wily veteran, especially on defense. if this guy could finish offensively worth a damn, he'd be an all-star. but, he can't, so he's kwame.

thomas is definitely still trying to find his rhythm. some really nice plays that reminded me how important he is to the bobcats' defense, but also plenty of just dumb plays that only happen if you're out of sync.

cunningham was nice this game. i liked some of his defense and he still flashed that jumper. also another player who is competitive and ready to go every possession on both sides of the floor. you can always find a spot for a guy like that.

jackson i thought had a decent game. it helped that he wasn't hassled too much on the perimeter so those dribble for five seconds then toss up a pathetic tough 28ft 3ptr possessions were kept to a minimum.

who am i missing... najera was a nice antidote to evans abusing the bobcats on the boards for a couple of minutes in the 2nd quarter. white was pretty quiet this game and missed a couple of jumpers that he has been making.


the raptors really are an awful team. their best players just have no business being the best players on a team. bargnani could score 18 per game and still be the 4th or 5th best player on a playoff team. derozan is a puzzle that will never have all its pieces, imo. calderon is comically bad at man defense, except for that one possession per game when he pretends to care that the person he is guarding is dribbling the basketball. barbosa has a use, but i feel like he would be much better on a team like oklahoma city that has a bunch of players who will feed him the ball and run the court with him.

their announcers have that dreaded bad-team-announcers syndrome, where they are so tired of being beaten every night they look for every chance to praise the abilities of the home team even when it's not warranted. also, white sox level homerism when it came to the officiating. reeeeeally annoying.

[W_HAMILTON]

their announcers have that dreaded bad-team-announcers syndrome, where they are so tired of being beaten every night they look for every chance to praise the abilities of the home team even when it's not warranted.

I don't know who their color guy is, but their play-by-play announcer is Matt Devlin, and that's just how he calls the games. He used to do our games, and he was the same way. I think he cares more about auditioning for a bigger role calling national games, a la Kevin Harland -- that's why he calls the games straight down the line.

He's nice if you are watching a national TV game, but as my team's play-by-play guy, I'd much rather have someone openly biased and a lil crazy like Steve Martin.