Jason Thompson

sackings916 · Post #1 » by **sackings916** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:15 am

He sucks. He has no clue what to do on offense, he's reckless, he has no touch around the basket. I thought after the Landry trade we would really get to see what Thompson could do. He's nothing more than a hustle big guy with decent size and mobility, not good enough to be a 3rd big let alone starting material.

K-Town King · Post #2 » by **K-Town King** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:22 am

JT's still fairly young and his has a solid jumper I think he's the type of player that you have to have complimentary players for him. Have to have a good PG to pass to him in open situations. I'm sure if JT played on the Suns he would probably kill with Nash as his guard. Of course Beno is not Nash or Rondo.

sackings916 · Post #3 » by **sackings916** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:12 am

K-Town King wrote:JT's still fairly young and his has a solid jumper I think he's the type of player that you have to have complimentary players for him. Have to have a good PG to pass to him in open situations. I'm sure if JT played on the Suns he would probably kill with Nash as his guard. Of course Beno is not Nash or Rondo.

He has a decent jumper but its nothing special. He just doesnt do enough to justify getting minutes on the court. The Kings would be a much better team with a big man who brings more to the table and has more of an impact on the court whether it be on offense or defense. A three point shooter in the frontcourt would fill a need and spread the floor more.A big like Bargnani or Ryan Anderson to go with Cousins/Daly would be ideal.

Post #4 » by **KF10** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:43 am

Not good enough to be the 3rd big? lol

Thompson does have some faults but he can easily fill the role as the primary big from any bench in the league. Thompson may not be a star or a player that can be counted on, he is more like the Udonis Haslem of the team. He does the little things that goes unnoticed on a boxscore, does the hard work and has an excellent motor. To me he is a larger, bigger Haslem. If that's what he is going to end as, development-wise, I'm fine with it. A very solid player.

sackings916 · Post #5 » by **sackings916** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:02 am

KF10 wrote:Not good enough to be the 3rd big? lol

Thompson does have some faults but he can easily fill the role as the primary big from any bench in the league. Thompson may not be a star or a player that can be counted on, he is more like the Udonis Haslem of the team. He does the little things that goes unnoticed on a boxscore, does the hard work and has an excellent motor. To me he is a larger, bigger Haslem. If that's what he is going to end as, development-wise, I'm fine with it. A very solid player.

Jason Thompson is nowhere near the defender Haslem is. Haslem's a better post defender, better at defending the PnR, and just has a much better IQ. Thompson does have a good motor like you said, but that's it and that's not good enough. With Landry gone there is no reason that Thompson hasn't been producing. He's just not that good, he's nothing more than a hustle big and an average defender.

Post #6 » by **KF10** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:10 am

I think it's more of how well the other bigs are doing. Cousins is Cousins. But Dalembert is having himself a great second half. He is averaging 12/10 + very good defense.

Having those guys being key cogs over the position that Thompson plays, you have to feel like Thompson's production will suffer a bit. I mean, Thompson was essentially 13/9 player last year when given the role as the primary big.

Right now, he is mostly a hustler, hit the open shot, rebounds and a guy that brings energy off the bench. Given the circumstances, he performed up to the expectation he was given. Which is all you can ask for.

YC42Balla · Post #7 » by **YC42Balla** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:14 am

I happen to like what Jason brings to the table. He has size, he can help get a few offensive/defensive rebs, and can shoot the jumper... theres not much more you can ask for in a complementary big man. It's not like he's the focus of our offense or anything... he's just here to help add to our tremendous size/rebounding abilities. Plus, he can help spread the floor for Tyreke.

SacKingZZZ · Post #8 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:48 am

Yeah, no. He's a solid player, is he the "Bosh" that some saw in him, no, but he's at least a starter quality player on a good number of teams.

Sparky6string · Post #9 » by **Sparky6string** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:33 am

I like him too. He isn't getting the minutes this year compared to previous years but he's still producing. If we didn't have him we would be complaining that we need more size.

K-Town King · Post #10 » by **K-Town King** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:18 pm

sackings916 wrote:
K-Town King wrote:JT's still fairly young and his has a solid jumper I think he's the type of player that you have to have complimentary players for him. Have to have a good PG to pass to him in open situations. I'm sure if JT played on the Suns he would probably kill with Nash as his guard. Of course Beno is not Nash or Rondo.

He has a decent jumper but its nothing special. He just doesnt do enough to justify getting minutes on the court. The Kings would be a much better team with a big man who brings more to the table and has more of an impact on the court whether it be on offense or defense. A three point shooter in the frontcourt would fill a need and spread the floor more.A big like Bargnani or Ryan Anderson to go with Cousins/Daly would be ideal.

I mean yes he isn't an all star or a "high caliber" big but I mean really do the Kings have a guy like that? I would see if this was a thread about giving a guy behind him more minutes because the other guy sucks but there is no one behind JT that is better then him so its really just a thread bashing a guy that is part of the team and will be apart of the team. Is their really a point?

boogie-reke · Post #11 » by **boogie-reke** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:01 pm

Size, strength, hustle, rebounding, good passer, can spread the floor a bit.. whats not to like?

I think you're dissapointed cause your expectations were/are too high.. when you realize he's not an all-star and all he is/will be is a role player big, you'll come to a conclusion he's a great player.

Post #12 » by **ICMTM** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:51 pm

I he's asked to play a style offensively that doesn't fit him. If you played him more like a Dirk where he's facing up more it would work better for him. He's no Dirk. Don't twist my words. I'm just saying he'd play better in a different system.

With that being said though I'll definitely take his faults with what he brings to the table.

PaKwAn · Post #13 » by **PaKwAn** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:39 pm

he hasn't really improved... what you see in him now might be the jt in years to come with som minor improvements along the way, good hustle player with decent jumpshot... he will be a nice role player in this league nothing special with him...

SactoBob · Post #14 » by **SactoBob** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:07 pm

SacKingZZZ wrote:Yeah, no. He's a solid player, is he the "Bosh" that some saw in him, no, but he's at least a starter quality player on a good number of teams.

If he can't start on the worst team in the league, I doubt there are many others where he could. However, he is a solid bench player.

cdt3 · Post #15 » by **cdt3** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:03 pm

sackings916 wrote:He sucks. He has no clue what to do on offense, he's reckless, he has no touch around the basket. I thought after the Landry trade we would really get to see what Thompson could do. He's nothing more than a hustle big guy with decent size and mobility, not good enough to be a 3rd big let alone starting material.

Hasn't improved?

Last year 47%, this year 49%.

No clue on offense?

Except leading the team's big men in shooting with Landry at 49%, Cousins 46% and Dalembert 47%.

Just below franchise big men like AJef 50%, BlakeG 50%, KG 52%, Amare 51%, DWest 51%, LAld 50%,

Equal to scrubs $8 to $15million franchise men like LEBRON and CBosh and D Lee at ZBo TDuncan ABogut and BLopez at 49%.

Better than big men JSmith 47%, Durant 47%, KLove 47%, Hibbert 45%, MBeasley 45% DMC46%, JGreen 44%, JJHickson 44%, CFrye CV 43%, ABlatche 43%, CFrye 43, GWallace 43%.

I only remember 2 other games this season wher JT had a bad night out of 50+ games.

THIS IS A HIT JOB BUY THE MAGOOFS TO KEEP JT COSTS DOWN AND PUT JT AS A ROLE PLAYER PAY.

Run away JT from the guys who want to out Clipper the Clippers owners in his home territory, you shoot the same as LEBRON/CBOSH/BOGUT/LOPEZ/DUNCAN/LEE/ALDRIDGE/LOVE.

YOU ARE A FRANCHISE BIG MAN.

Run as fast as you can from the Magoofs, the cheapest owners in the land and ruiner of careers.

Go somewhere who believes in you who will make you their big man like DLee or Portland or SA.

Marcus Thornton scored 20 a game here and not in Cha? Because he was behind Chris Paul.

JT is in the same mess here.

Post #16 » by **pillwenney** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:42 pm

Oh.....Jesus.....

408Kings · Post #17 » by **408Kings** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:50 am

Yeah, I'm in agreement with the general evaluation of JT on this thread. When you temper back your expectations and realize that he's not an all-star, but a serviceable big man, you won't feel that he's so useless.

I really had a hard time liking JT for most of the year, but after paying closer attention to him since after the all-star break, I realized why he isn't the player he should be.

YES, he is still making those stupid idiotic fouls after getting beat (really needs to just let the play go and move on), BUT he can guard 2 positions--PF and C. That's hard to find. How many free agents are there that are as talented and on par with him? Maybe a handful. He's got a nice jumper with range out to 20 feet that he can hit pretty consistently.

K-Town King wrote:I'm sure if JT played on the Suns he would probably kill with Nash as his guard.

I think this sums it up pretty well. The problem is the team doesn't have a PG that gets him involved or gets the ball to him in the right spots. He's fights for position down low, but they just ignore him when he has his man pinned on the baseline. He usually only shoots when the shot clock is winding down or he's wide open. This is much better than taking ridiculous and contested shots.

Give him a little bit more time and lower your expectations, and he'll be a decent product. Especially if we fill that PG hole. With that said, I wouldn't overpay him when his contract is up.

sackings916 · Post #18 » by **sackings916** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:34 pm

Lets be clear im rooting for JT and want him to succeed just as everyone here does. I just dont see it. Everyone says he has good size, but what is he doing with it? He's not scoring, and he's definitely not locking anyone down. He does have a good motor and plays with high energy, but that only goes so far. The Kings dont have a real superstar, or even an all star, so we need every player in the rotation to have an impact and JT's hustle and ability to hit an open J just isn't enough of an impact we need from our 3rd big, we need a difference maker whether it be offensively or defensively and JT is not that.

Post #19 » by **ICMTM** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:37 pm

Again what he does naturally on the offensive end isn't post. It's shooting, quick moves to the hoop, and playing off the pick and roll. We don't do any of that for Jason so he's going to be hit & miss until the coaching staff plays to his strengths.

He needs to learn to be more comfortable with his back to the basket, but he'll never be a very good NBA player playing that way. The way Paul Westphal uses JT is a shame.

sackings916 · Post #20 » by **sackings916** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:28 pm

ICMTM wrote:Again what he does naturally on the offensive end isn't post. It's shooting, quick moves to the hoop, and playing off the pick and roll. We don't do any of that for Jason so he's going to be hit & miss until the coaching staff plays to his strengths.

He needs to learn to be more comfortable with his back to the basket, but he'll never be a very good NBA player playing that way. The way Paul Westphal uses JT is a shame.

Again what im saying is he's just not very good offensively. Yes he's not a good back to the basket player, but even If you make a "quick move to the hoop" or play off the PnR it wont matter if you can't finish. JT just isnt a very good finisher, he has no touch around the basket and when he shoots I cant tell if he's trying to make the shot or break the backboard.