Game 69 March 18, 2011: Mavs Vs Spurs

ahonui06 · Post #181 » by **ahonui06** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:55 am

Terry,Barea,Kidd,Beaubois combined for 13 turnovers.

Spurs entire team had 9 lol.

ahonui06 · Post #182 » by **ahonui06** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:55 am

It took the Mavs 6 seconds to commit an intentional foul. Can't believe they are in the NBA.

ahonui06 · Post #183 » by **ahonui06** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:56 am

Embarrassing performance by the entire Mavs organization except DIRK of course.

crucifixx · Post #184 » by **crucifixx** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:58 am

Like I said. We aren't going anywhere with Terry. This is exactly why. Other players when they're not hitting shots, they could at least play defense. When Terry isn't hot, he destroys our team. He just gets scored on on defense, and then commit stupid turnovers on the other end. So basically our only hope of going anywhere is hoping for Terry to have the hot hand. You wanna put your money on that? Good luck.

Captain_Obvious · Post #185 » by **Captain_Obvious** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:00 am

No need to blame the coach, he is playing with the hand that was dealt to him by Donnie and Cuban. Time to rebuilt IMO, they never had any chance tonight, only the refs kept it close all the time. I only watched the second half, behind Dirk there were only JJ and Roddy (with his rookie mistakes). The rest has not enough in the tank to make a difference.

It feels like we just got kicked out of the playoffs, the team played certainly exactly like it - Dirk theeeeeeen nothing.

ASIMO · Post #186 » by **ASIMO** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:00 am

Mavs PG TO is 6. For me Kidd is the worst player tonight.

Post #187 » by **HMFFL** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:01 am

Ligatsa wrote:Like I said. We aren't going anywhere with Terry. This is exactly why. Other players when they're not hitting shots, they could at least play defense. When Terry isn't hot, he destroys our team. He just gets scored on on defense, and then commit stupid turnovers on the other end. So basically our only hope of going anywhere is hoping for Terry to have the hot hand. You wanna put your money on that? Good luck.

The same can be said for the majority of our roster. Jason Terry has his flaws, but you cannot just blame him, and all issues on this team are reoccurring.

crucifixx · Post #188 » by **crucifixx** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:04 am

HMFFL wrote:
Ligatsa wrote:Like I said. We aren't going anywhere with Terry. This is exactly why. Other players when they're not hitting shots, they could at least play defense. When Terry isn't hot, he destroys our team. He just gets scored on on defense, and then commit stupid turnovers on the other end. So basically our only hope of going anywhere is hoping for Terry to have the hot hand. You wanna put your money on that? Good luck.

The same can be said for the majority of our roster. Jason Terry has his flaws, but you cannot just blame him, and all issues on this team are reoccurring.

No that's the thing. Everybody has their flaws. But we rely TOO MUCH on Terry. That is why we aren't going anywhere with him.

ASIMO · Post #189 » by **ASIMO** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:05 am

Ligatsa wrote:Like I said. We aren't going anywhere with Terry. This is exactly why. Other players when they're not hitting shots, they could at least play defense. When Terry isn't hot, he destroys our team. He just gets scored on on defense, and then commit stupid turnovers on the other end. So basically our only hope of going anywhere is hoping for Terry to have the hot hand. You wanna put your money on that? Good luck.

JET is now 2nd option. And HC is asking him to shoot.
JETs FGA is increasing 3 under the Carlisle. I hate it too. but thats Carlisles sake. Not players.

Deus · Post #190 » by **Deus** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:06 am

Despite the loss I like that Carlisle finally gave Roddy extended minutes (28) in a big game. That TO he gave Manu was a big reason why we lost, but its something everyone has to go through to grow as a player. Actually, I was shocked that Rick had the guts to leave him in.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. Mavs won't get far in the playoffs without Roddy contributing some big points and getting big minutes. Relying on Kidd and Terry in last years playoffs = failure.

sweet daddy · Post #191 » by **sweet daddy** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:11 am

Hey ahonui06, with all due respect, shut the hell up. Dirk was a -8 tonight and believe me, he deserved it no matter what the box score said. Sloppy turnover at the most crucial time, typical matador defense, didn't battle the way a superstar should battle against a bitter rival like the Spurs. Didn't demand the ball. You think if Dirk demanded the ball during timeouts he wouldn't get it? He should have burn marks all over his body if he wants to lead a team to a championship. Larry Bird would be shaking his head right now.

Here's the truth, and it's the truly disappointing thing to me. No matter what the final score said, the Mavs were never in this game. SA was all business tonight, they played the aggressor all night, acted like they owned us from the start of the game, and ... in the end ... they just flat whipped our ass. On our own court. Made it look easy to rip us apart.

48-20 coming in. Final game of the year against San Antonio. Now 48-21. Pretty much says it all.

I miss Caron.

crucifixx · Post #192 » by **crucifixx** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:11 am

Terry is even at his worst in the playoffs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only series where he has do anything good is the Houston series. Other than that he has been goose egg. He was crap against Phoenix after the Houston series. Crap against Miami. Crap against New Orleans. Crap against Denver. Crap against San Antonio. The thing is if he was just a role player, it wouldn't be that bad. We will NEVER be a contender as long as Jason freakin Terry is our second option.

sweet daddy · Post #193 » by **sweet daddy** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:13 am

Sorry, ahonui06, I'm just venting. Very frustrated tonight. Nothing personal, man.

Darren · Post #194 » by **Darren** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:17 am

There's a lot of situations that we could have secure the defensive rebound. But we don't. I agree with Rick. We're soft. Not mentally prepared. Chandler is not as energetic as season starts. Nor is Haywood or Mahinmi. This concerns me a lot. Even Marion has some huge mistakes on securing defensive board. That hustle issue is the biggest problem.

Slow start is another issue. We're down 11-23 to fight back. That's too demanding for a team constructed like this. We need some stable forces like JoHo or Butler do in early quarters. It takes too long for our older guys to warm up.

Poor perimeter shooting is the third important issue. Our spacing forces some though threes. I think we're doing better early this season. Though it's tough to lose Chandler to foul troubles, we should have taken advantages with those wide-open 3s.

Dirk is still Dirk. He's amazing tonight. He makes many of those tough shots. However, those around him is unable to compliment with him. Defensively, he's not quite a liability as advertised.

Roddy learns to defend better. He's not focused at times. I expect him to play bigger role on offense. He's one of the 4th quarter guy. That's a big trust. I don't like 4-PG lineup, tho.

Rick Carlisie is learning from mistakes. But he doesn't have much cards to battle Popovich. He'd better figure it out. Or we can expect another first round exit. JET and JJ on court together would free all guards on defense. We can't afford gambling all the time.

ASIMO · Post #195 » by **ASIMO** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:18 am

Ligatsa wrote:Terry is even at his worst in the playoffs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only series where he has do anything good is the Houston series. .

16.3ppg, 44.9FG% (3pt 38.1%) 2.1TO in his career

16.8ppg , 43.8FG% (3pt 37.2%) 1.9TO in 62 PO games in Dallas.

looks almost same... you just dont like his play...? :lol:

crucifixx · Post #196 » by **crucifixx** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:19 am

ASIMO wrote:
Ligatsa wrote:Terry is even at his worst in the playoffs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only series where he has do anything good is the Houston series. .

16.3ppg, 44.9FG% (3pt 38.1%) 2.1TO in his career

16.8ppg , 43.8FG% (3pt 37.2%) 1.9TO in 62 PO games in Dallas.

you just dont like his play...?

It's not about the numbers. You have to see how he just never steps up to support Dirk in the playoffs.

Maverick86 · Post #197 » by **Maverick86** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:21 am

Do the Mavs want the 4th seed or something?...

Post #198 » by **HMFFL** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:21 am

Ligatsa wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
Ligatsa wrote:Like I said. We aren't going anywhere with Terry. This is exactly why. Other players when they're not hitting shots, they could at least play defense. When Terry isn't hot, he destroys our team. He just gets scored on on defense, and then commit stupid turnovers on the other end. So basically our only hope of going anywhere is hoping for Terry to have the hot hand. You wanna put your money on that? Good luck.

The same can be said for the majority of our roster. Jason Terry has his flaws, but you cannot just blame him, and all issues on this team are reoccurring.

No that's the thing. Everybody has their flaws. But we rely TOO MUCH on Terry. That is why we aren't going anywhere with him.

The entire roster is dysfunctional and has been for years. It's very difficult to blame one player when all of them have their flaws. Rick Carlisle deserves some of the blame as well, but so does the two clowns that provide him with the players, so Cuban & Nelson deserve most of it for the way our team is constructed.

ASIMO · Post #199 » by **ASIMO** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:23 am

Ligatsa wrote:
ASIMO wrote:
Ligatsa wrote:Terry is even at his worst in the playoffs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only series where he has do anything good is the Houston series. .

16.3ppg, 44.9FG% (3pt 38.1%) 2.1TO in his career

16.8ppg , 43.8FG% (3pt 37.2%) 1.9TO in 62 PO games in Dallas.

you just dont like his play...?

It's not about the numbers. You have to see how he just never steps up to support Dirk in the playoffs.

I dont expect on him unlike you. For me he is Geoge Hill or Jefferson for Spurs.
Who will blame them for their poor PO result, having not bad individual stats?
I blame HC who give that player too much responsibility.

mffl_14 · Post #200 » by **mffl_14** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:25 am

I have been one of the most positive and upbeat fans about what the Mavs are and have been. But tonights loss was almost to much to stomach. The spurs are a good team but I hated our effort for much of the first half. We play so stupid and it's irritating. Tyson was giving up lazy fouls left and right. Terry was looking like the Terry of the last seasons spurs series. Even Roddy didn't do much. And of course once again Dirk is left to do it all on his own. It's really amazing to me how far that guy can carry a team. But that's besides the point. I have just seen to much lately that indicates we are going down. The losses to the Hornets and Blazers and the barely pull it out by the skin of teeth win against GS are unexuseable if the Mavs are truly the top 2 or 3 team in the west. I know I have been the one defending them and I hope they turn it around but I have given in, this team will go nowhere if they continue to play defenseless, soft and stupid basketball.