Just something I'd like to say.

[RIPskaterdude]

It's all about the $$$ from the TV deal, ICMTM. All about the $$$...

[ICMTM]

you have to have viewers. Half the time the Kings and Lakers will be on at the same time. All they need to be doing is be playing in the same time zone. Go to SoCal. You will notice it is a Laker area. They have from Central California down on lock.

Will people watch a losing team in LA??? No! The only way going to Anaheim works is if the Kings become a contender. That's it. LA will support a winner.

[RIPskaterdude]

Well....knowing our luck, they will become a winner after Stern gets them the #1 pick and they get some good FA's after the new CBA...

[ICMTM]

Well....knowing our luck, they will become a winner after Stern gets them the #1 pick and they get some good FA's after the new CBA...

This team won't be a title contender for a while.

[Wolfay]

you have to have viewers. Half the time the Kings and Lakers will be on at the same time. All they need to be doing is be playing in the same time zone. Go to SoCal. You will notice it is a Laker area. They have from Central California down on lock.

Will people watch a losing team in LA??? No! The only way going to Anaheim works is if the Kings become a contender. That's it. LA will support a winner.

Sterling makes a boatload on the Clippers despite being the crappiest franchise in the NBA.

Well....knowing our luck, they will become a winner after Stern gets them the #1 pick and they get some good FA's after the new CBA...

I have no doubt they'll start winning again. All of the suffering we've gone through the past few seasons, and Anaheim reaps the rewards. It's so sad and ****** up that it's kinda funny.

[stock01234]

The only way going to Anaheim works is if the Kings become a contender. That's it. LA will support a winner.

I think thats what maloof's plan is. Get the TV deal and wait for new CBA. Mostly it will lil stricter compared to current one which will make more FAs available. The kings core is good to make them legit playoff team. I don't think that being contender is 100% lock, but atleast a legit playoff team on lines of nuggets or trailblazers.

All they need to do is spend money on good coach, 1 good FA and couple good role players.. plus they will have high pick for next draft.. also if they run in financial troubles it will be easier to gradually sell their team stack to Henri who is a billionaire.

I don't think Lakers will becomes cellar dwellers anytime, even after kobe retires or jackson leaves. So it will be hard to kings to make a big dent in their fan base. The biggest loser of this move will be City of Sacramento and LA Clippers. Once Royals( ) become a playoff team, Clippers will surely lose their fanbase. Griffin won't matter. Most fans like to see final team product, not a one-star ~35W team. And ofcourse since Sterling is the owner, Griffin and Gordon will be gone in couple seasons.

[sfernald]

I agree. I am a SoCal native with the means to get season tickets and I plan on doing so as soon as they are available. I have clipper partial seats, but I am looking for something closer (the drive sucks) and am willing to put a stake in with a new team, the Anaheim Royals. I think there are a ton of people like me in SoCal - just chomping at the bit to get in. We have a healthy middle class here that has a ton of money to spend on entertainment (the Ducks do REALLY well). Unemployment is really low here compared to other parts of the U.S. as well. It is just a kick-ass town with about the best weather in America.

Go Royals@!!!!

EDIT: That said, I do expect the Royals to become winners and make a run at the championship. They need to start by firing that coach and getting a defensive-minded coach, but they have the young talent to eventually make a run I believe!

Yeah saw that link the other day and does have some pretty valid points.

Orange County has an estimated population of 3,026,786, over twice that of Sacramento County (1,400,949). This means without even accounting for potential ticket prospects in San Diego County & the Inland Empire (which I assure you are more populous and prosperous than counties such as Yolo & Sutter, which neighbor Sacramento), relocation provides twice the sales prospects.

This is true to a point. How many already have ties or allegiances to the teams that are already there in SoCal? What would make the surrounding counties jump ship?

In addition to having more people than Sacramento, Orange County has people with more money. 13.3% of Sacramento residence are below the poverty line, while in Orange County, this number is 9.9% (significantly below the state average). Homeownership rate in Orange County is 3.2% greater , and median property values have a $130,000 advantage over Sacramento.

Great home ownership and median property values equates to higher mortgages, and in turn less money to spend on entertainment.

Here is another fun fact: a large portion of season ticket sales come from private companies who use them for such purposes as client entertainment and employee incentives.

Would have to agree with this, I mean there really aren't too many large private companies in Sac. When I travel for work, a lot of companies have tickets they just give away to their clients.

As for persons who purchase individual game tickets, in Orange County, residents spend approximately $2,000 more per year on entertainment than Sacramento residents...

Once again, how much of this $2000 is because of the price difference in cost of living?

I am however looking at this from an inside out (King's Fan's) point of view.

[RIPskaterdude]

We have a healthy middle class here that has a ton of money to spend on entertainment (the Ducks do REALLY well).

What? The Ducks are in the bottom 5 of average attendance for the NHL.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance

[Wolfay]

I agree. I am a SoCal native with the means to get season tickets and I plan on doing so as soon as they are available. I have clipper partial seats, but I am looking for something closer (the drive sucks) and am willing to put a stake in with a new team, the Anaheim Royals. I think there are a ton of people like me in SoCal - just chomping at the bit to get in. We have a healthy middle class here that has a ton of money to spend on entertainment (the Ducks do REALLY well). Unemployment is really low here compared to other parts of the U.S. as well. It is just a kick-ass town with about the best weather in America.

Go Royals@!!!!

EDIT: That said, I do expect the Royals to become winners and make a run at the championship. They need to start by firing that coach and getting a defensive-minded coach, but they have the young talent to eventually make a run I believe!

It's not the Anaheim Royals yet, so get out of here with that crap about Anaheim being so great. **** Anaheim. We don't need that typical insensitive socal bullcrap right now.

[sfernald]

If it happens, I'm sorry for your loss. I didn't mean to upset anyone. I have had a team leave me (the rams) and I was really bummed about it for years. I'm just over-excited is all. I will try to refrain myself until it is announced which I imagine won't be until the end of the season.

I agree. I am a SoCal native with the means to get season tickets and I plan on doing so as soon as they are available. I have clipper partial seats, but I am looking for something closer (the drive sucks) and am willing to put a stake in with a new team, the Anaheim Royals. I think there are a ton of people like me in SoCal - just chomping at the bit to get in. We have a healthy middle class here that has a ton of money to spend on entertainment (the Ducks do REALLY well). Unemployment is really low here compared to other parts of the U.S. as well. It is just a kick-ass town with about the best weather in America.

Go Royals@!!!!

EDIT: That said, I do expect the Royals to become winners and make a run at the championship. They need to start by firing that coach and getting a defensive-minded coach, but they have the young talent to eventually make a run I believe!

It's not the Anaheim Royals yet, so get out of here with that crap about Anaheim being so great. **** Anaheim. We don't need that typical insensitive socal bullcrap right now.

[Wolfay]

If it happens, I'm sorry for your loss. I didn't mean to upset anyone. I have had a team leave me (the rams) and I was really bummed about it for years. I'm just over-excited is all. I will try to refrain myself until it is announced which I imagine won't be until the end of the season.

Feel free to post here and cheer the team on, but be sensitive, especially to those of us who are from Sacramento. We all know the Kings are pretty much gone, so there's no need to rub it in our face. It may have been unintentional, but that's what it still felt like.

[tru6playa]

If it happens, I'm sorry for your loss. I didn't mean to upset anyone. I have had a team leave me (the rams) and I was really bummed about it for years. I'm just over-excited is all. I will try to refrain myself until it is announced which I imagine won't be until the end of the season.

Get the F*** out of the SACRAMENTO Kings forum - no one wants to here about your F****** excitement or your damn BS apathetic apologies. If this was in person, I would've thrown a large cow bell at your face and taken the punishment for it with pride.

[OGSactownballer]

What cracks me up is the thinking that the competition is merely the Clippers and the Lakers.

By my reckoning, there are approximately 23-27 well-established pro and college teams in the GRATER LOS ANGELES AREA (because like it or not Orange countians, that what you are to the resst of the country, LA!) that will already have draw and TV money ahead of the Kings if they move there. A big part of the reason why there is not actually any kind of deal in place yet is the fact that they haven't actually been offered ANYTHING in writing. They are really just pissing in the wind right now. If somebody was telling me all this about SanJose, then I'd be waving goodbye. But the thing is, a deal this big and serious could not possibly be down and sealed without SOME KIND of leaked info that has facts and figures. You NEVER see that - especially in Southern California. I lived there. They freakin LIVE AND DIE by the news media.

And all that drooling over Jerry Buss' new TV deal is puffing a damn crack pipe. The Magoofs aren't sniffing anything remotely like that deal. They'd be lucky to get something as nice as what they have here. And again, where exactly are they going to come up with enough money to pay:

1) The city loan which inevitably will be called upon a move as I am sure is the city's right.

2) The NBA relocation fee - anywhere from 35-50 million depending on who you believe.

3) The area forfeits to the Lakers and Clippers - which I GUARANTEE will not be less than 35-40 million each.

I mean, you are looking at nearly 180-200 million dollars to relocate with very little guarantee of greater income. Never mind all that twitter crap from some girl who used to s*&k Joe's d(&k for her pay check. It is pretty much irrelevant for all the reasons stated before and all I have outlined above. The real life discrepancy becomes a LOT less when you live in a cheaper place that does not require the lifestyle level maintenance out of you slightly larger discretionary income.

The ONLY way that I can see them coming up with that kind of cash right now with all that has gone down with the Palms (since they no longer have the booze business - a class A El Stoopido if I ever saw one when it comes to BUSINESS - you can't LOSE money with LIQUOR), is to sell half their interest in the team to Henri for the relocation costs, but that would mean giving up control and at that point the other minority owners - who are Sacramento businessmen - would probably get together and take them to court to stop the move.

On top of that, they insist that they don't want to sell the team. But how can that work? As was stated above, they are in big deep because they wanted to be the big deal thing with the casino, and that has taken their father's empire down. They should give up and sell out while they can still maintain the money that would come from the sale of the team.

[RIPskaterdude]

I wish they would just sell the team to a bunch of owners in Sacramento...