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Post#621 » by moss_is_1 » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:41 pm

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ALICEinJAM wrote:^ yeah, thats really impossible. i think.


I think getting all of those guys except for Barnes would be possible (not probable at all, but possible). Fortunately, we wouldn't need Barnes at all as long as we have Johnson.

I doubt Dallas will give up Chandler.
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Post#622 » by AQuintus » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:53 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:I doubt Dallas will give up Chandler.


He's an unrestricted free agent, so if someone (like us) were to offer him a bigger contract than Dallas is willing or able to match or exceed, then he'd likely sign with them/us.
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Post#623 » by LordBaldric » Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:14 pm

AQuintus wrote:
moss_is_1 wrote:I doubt Dallas will give up Chandler.


He's an unrestricted free agent, so if someone (like us) were to offer him a bigger contract than Dallas is willing or able to match or exceed, then he'd likely sign with them/us.


We won't have much more than the MLE to offer this summer, so good luck with that.
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Post#624 » by AQuintus » Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:16 pm

LordBaldric wrote:We won't have much more than the MLE to offer this summer, so good luck with that.


I did a thing in the offseason dream thread where we got up to 20 million in cap space. So it's possible but improbable like I said, especially with Kahn as GM.

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I'll also say that it's pretty unlikely that Iggy gets moved at this point. Since they brought in Doug Collins, their team as improved drastically (even more proof that good coaching makes a big difference in the NBA), and they're currently the 6th seed in the East. As long as they're competing for the playoffs every year, I can't imagine them moving their best player. Even if Iggy and Turner show that they can't play together, it's far more likely that they trade Turner for a win now piece.

With that said, while not likely, it is possible that if they get blown out in the 1st round and their playoff future looks bleak, they might try for a mini-rebuild trading away Iggy for young talent and cap relief, both of which we could give them.
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Re: Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#625 » by _AIJ_ » Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:18 pm

AQuintus wrote:
ALICEinJAM wrote:^ yeah, thats really impossible. i think.


I think getting all of those guys except for Barnes would be possible (not probable at all, but possible). Fortunately, we wouldn't need Barnes at all as long as we have Johnson.


What? I think Barnes could play SF pretty well, or are you saying that Wes could be our SF? I thought Barnes could play a little SG too. He has that jumper and can create his own shots.
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Post#626 » by AQuintus » Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:25 pm

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What? I think Barnes could play SF pretty well, or are you saying that Wes could be our SF? I thought Barnes could play a little SG too. He has that jumper and can create his own shots.


That was a response to your response to J-Era-3's dream lineup of Chandler, Love, Barnes, Iggy, and Irving.

I was just saying that if we get Irving (which would take out pick), Igoudala, and Chandler, we wouldn't have enough assets to also get another top 10 (or even top 5) pick needed to get Barnes, but that's not a big deal since Johnson would be fine as our SF.
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Post#627 » by _AIJ_ » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:06 pm

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ALICEinJAM wrote:
What? I think Barnes could play SF pretty well, or are you saying that Wes could be our SF? I thought Barnes could play a little SG too. He has that jumper and can create his own shots.


That was a response to your response to J-Era-3's dream lineup of Chandler, Love, Barnes, Iggy, and Irving.

I was just saying that if we get Irving (which would take out pick), Igoudala, and Chandler, we wouldn't have enough assets to also get another top 10 (or even top 5) pick needed to get Barnes, but that's not a big deal since Johnson would be fine as our SF.


If only Wes could develop his ball-handling skills and confidence, he'll be one helluva player. I really think he could be better than Skittles (if he does not improve his game). A front court of Barnes-Love-Defensive C would be fun.

I think our problem really is the C position. Next year we'll be filled with lots of talents from 1-4 spot. If we could get the defensive C, we could be dangerous.
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Re: Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#628 » by _AIJ_ » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:07 pm

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Re: Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#629 » by AQuintus » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:09 pm

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If only Wes could develop his ball-handling skills and confidence, he'll be one helluva player. I really think he could be better than Skittles (if he does not improve his game). A front court of Barnes-Love-Defensive C would be fun.

I think our problem really is the C position. Next year we'll be filled with lots of talents from 1-4 spot. If we could get the defensive C, we could be dangerous.


Not that I disagree with anything you just posted, but what does it have to do with my post that you're quoting?
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Re: Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#630 » by _AIJ_ » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:10 pm

AQuintus wrote:
ALICEinJAM wrote:
If only Wes could develop his ball-handling skills and confidence, he'll be one helluva player. I really think he could be better than Skittles (if he does not improve his game). A front court of Barnes-Love-Defensive C would be fun.

I think our problem really is the C position. Next year we'll be filled with lots of talents from 1-4 spot. If we could get the defensive C, we could be dangerous.


Not that I disagree with anything you just posted, but what does it have to do with my post that you're quoting?


Nothing really. :lol:
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Re: Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#631 » by horaceworthy » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:40 pm

AQuintus wrote:
LordBaldric wrote:We won't have much more than the MLE to offer this summer, so good luck with that.


I did a thing in the offseason dream thread where we got up to 20 million in cap space. So it's possible but improbable like I said, especially with Kahn as GM.

That really seems like it's possible only in the "anything's possible through the power of imagination" sense.
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Re: Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#632 » by AQuintus » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:06 am

ALICEinJAM wrote:Nothing really. :lol:


Ok then. :D

horaceworthy wrote:That really seems like it's possible only in the "anything's possible through the power of imagination" sense.


It was mostly based around getting Irving (which is already extremely implausible becuase the Wolves never move up in the draft) and then using Rubio to dump Darko's and Webster's contracts and get a future 1st. The initial thought was to send them to Toronto for their TPE, but it isn't quite big enough. Sending them to Cleveland for their TPE works, though.
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Post#633 » by Grits n Gravy » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:21 am

stop...jimmer time, pumped to see my first jimmer game...i think its on in about 10 minutes :D
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Post#634 » by Grits n Gravy » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:37 am

kiwi_adam wrote:stop...jimmer time, pumped to see my first jimmer game...i think its on in about 10 minutes :D

**** scheduler told me it started much later, only 5 minutes left in 1st half!!! :x :evil:
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Post#635 » by LordBaldric » Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:11 am

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Post#636 » by Grits n Gravy » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:27 am

only got to see a bit of the byu-zaga game cause it flipped tp pitt-butler(how **** insane was that game!!!!) for a long period..my impression was that jimmer's game will absolutely translate to the nba. he reminds me so dam much of a combination of deron williams and a steve nash(without the freakish passing skills)....nash in the way of setting up guys off the dribble, not so much with quickness but craftiness and ball handling skill. guys have to play him so close because of his elite shooting ability and crazy range...and williams in his build and strength at the point guard spot. nash is one of the greatest shooters in nba history, probably top 10 and it sounds crazy to say but jimmer may not be to far off being at nash's level when it comes to shooting. if you're picking him after 10, imo it's all gravy in that situation...worst case you will get a very solid back up who would would fit our current system great and best case you might get a steph curry/steve nash lite kind of guy.
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Post#637 » by Cyborg21 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:34 am

Jacob Pullen looking good, but we need a pass-first point.
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Post#638 » by eyeteeth » Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:30 pm

kiwi_adam wrote:only got to see a bit of the byu-zaga game cause it flipped tp pitt-butler(how **** insane was that game!!!!) for a long period..my impression was that jimmer's game will absolutely translate to the nba. he reminds me so dam much of a combination of deron williams and a steve nash(without the freakish passing skills)....nash in the way of setting up guys off the dribble, not so much with quickness but craftiness and ball handling skill. guys have to play him so close because of his elite shooting ability and crazy range...and williams in his build and strength at the point guard spot. nash is one of the greatest shooters in nba history, probably top 10 and it sounds crazy to say but jimmer may not be to far off being at nash's level when it comes to shooting. if you're picking him after 10, imo it's all gravy in that situation...worst case you will get a very solid back up who would would fit our current system great and best case you might get a steph curry/steve nash lite kind of guy.

After watching my first Jimmer action I must say that Deron Williams was absolutely the guy who came to mind. :drool:
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Post#639 » by phonzadellika » Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:22 pm

Caught the UNC-Washington game...Barnes hit some big shots at the end, played some really good D too...he also missed a layup that would have sealed the game, so it wasn't all roses and jellybeans, but it's the best I've seen him play out of 3 games that I've watched.
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Re: Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#640 » by Worm Guts » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:47 am

I don't see the Fredette-Williams comparison, mainly Fredette is an incredible shot maker. I don't know if he's going to translate or not.

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