The Official 2011 Cammo Mock Draft Thread

Cammo101 · Post #301 » by **Cammo101** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:03 pm

Kirsten19 wrote:No Tyler Zeller in the 2nd round?

28. Boston - Tyler Zeller (6'11'', C, North Carolina, Jr.)

Casperkid23 · Post #302 » by **Casperkid23** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:03 pm

Lack of perspective on draft prospects showing through on your latest mock. But hey, at least you're getting a ton of views and replies because you update it incessantly.

Cammo101 · Post #303 » by **Cammo101** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:14 pm

Casperkid23 wrote:Lack of perspective on draft prospects showing through on your latest mock. But hey, at least you're getting a ton of views and replies because you update it incessantly.

Kirsten19 · Post #304 » by **Kirsten19** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:20 pm

John Henson, may well be a top 10 pick.

Super athletic, a defensive specialist(ACC Defensive Player of the Year), a great shotblocker(a number of 10-blocks games this season, average 5 blks a game in the last 15 games) and is really long.

His windspan was measured 7'4" in high school, and he was 6'10" and 200lb back then. It believed he has a 7'6" wingspan these days and may grow to 6'11" and 210lb. He's still skinny but he reminds me of Marcus Camby in college. He is already a double-double machine

In fact, Henson is the best shotblocker I've seen in college in a while. He's long and can guard 3s and 4s.

Pistons for example may want such an athletic big next to Greg Monroe, since Monroe is rather slow n not very athletic.

Joe Dumars wants Sullinger but I think he'll be gone by 6th or 7th.

Dr Positivity · Post #305 » by **Dr Positivity** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:56 pm

Isn't Minnesota still 2nd last? They're 17-54 and Wash/Sac are 17-51

Kirsten19 · Post #306 » by **Kirsten19** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:03 pm

New Jersey Nets are doinging well since the arrival if Deron Williams. I doubt they'll have the 6th worst record at the end.

So, The Jazz who're having NJ first round pick this year may end up drafting at 7th or 8th

Jazzfan12 · Post #307 » by **Jazzfan12** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:38 pm

Deron is incredibly beatup right now and the Nets just lost to the Wizards, they'll stay at the 6th pick.

vincecarter4pres · Post #308 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:06 pm

No Tyler Honeycutt?

And I really hope the Nets wouldn't take Kyle Singler over Jeff Taylor.

Cammo101 · Post #309 » by **Cammo101** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:08 pm

3/21/11 (Big Board)

1. Kyrie Irving (6'2'', PG, Duke, Fresh.)
2. Jared Sullinger (6'9'', PF, Ohio State, Fresh.)
3. Derrick Williams (6'9'', PF, Arizona, Soph.)
4. Harrison Barnes (6'8'', SF, North Carolina, Fresh.)
5. Perry Jones (6'11'', PF, Baylor, Fresh.)
6. Enes Kanter (6'11'', PF, Turkey)
7. Donatas Motiejunas (7'0'', PF, Lithuania)
8. Jonas Valanciunas (6'10'', C, Lithuania)
9. Kemba Walker (6'0'', PG, UConn, Jr.)
10. Alec Burks (6'6'', SG, Colorado, Soph.)
11. Terrence Jones (6'9'', SF, Kentucky, Fresh.)
12. Jan Vesely (6'11'', SF, Czech Republic)
13. John Henson (6'10'', PF, North Carolina, Soph.)
14. Brandon Knight (6'3'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
15. Jordan Hamilton (6'7'', SF, Texas, Soph.)
16. Jimmer Fredette (6'2'', PG, BYU, Sr.)
17. Kawhi Leonard (6'7'', SF San Diego State, Soph.)
18. Marcus Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
19. Tristan Thompson (6'9'', PF, Texas, Fresh.)
20. Chris Singleton (6'8'', SF, Florida State, Jr.)
21. Justin Harper (6'10'', PF, Richmond, Sr.)
22. Bismack Biyombo (6'9'', PF, Congo)
23. Nikola Mirotic (6'10'', PF, Montenegro)
24. Markieff Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
25. Tyler Honeycutt (6'8'', SF, UCLA, Soph.)
26. Kenneth Faried (6'8'', PF, Morehead State, Sr.)
27. John Jenkins (6'4'', SG, Vanderbilt, Soph.)
28. Lucas Nogueira (7'0'', C, Brazil)
29. Jordan Williams (6'10'', C, Maryland, Soph.)
30. Tobias Harris (6'8'', SF, Tennessee, Fresh.)
31. Kyle Singler (6'9'', SF, Duke, Sr.)
32. Trey Thompkins (6'9'', PF, Georgia, Jr.)
33. Klay Thompson (6'6'', SG, Washington State, Jr.)
34. Nikola Vucevic (6'10'', PF, USC, Jr.)
35. Keith Benson (6'11'', C, Oakland, Sr.)
36. Nolan Smith (6'3'', SG, Duke, Sr.)
37. Tyler Zeller (6'11'', C, North Carolina, Jr.)
38. Jeffery Taylor (6'6'', SF, Vanderbilt, Jr.)
39. JaJuan Johnson (6'10'', PF, Purdue, Sr.)
40. CJ Leslie (6'8'', SF, North Carolina State, Fresh.)
41. Furkan Aldemir (6'9'', PF, Turkey)
42. Josh Selby (6'1'', PG, Kansas, Fresh.)
43. Marshon Brooks (6'5'', SG, Providence, Sr.)
44. E'Twaun Moore (6'4'', SG, Purdue, Sr.)
45. Malcolm Lee (6'5'', SG, UCLA, Jr.)
46. Travis Leslie (6'4'', SG, Georgia, Jr.)
47. Kris Joseph (6'7'', SF, Syracuse, Jr.)
48. Jeremy Tyler (6'10'', PF, USA)
49. Greg Smith (6'10'', C, Fresno State, Soph.)
50. Aaric Murray (6'10'', C, La Salle, Soph.)
51. Scottie Hopson (6'6'', SF, Tennessee, Jr.)
52. Renard Sidney (6'10'', PF, Mississippi State, Soph.)
53. Bojan Bogdanovic (6'7'', SF, Croatia)
54. LaceDarius Dunn (6'4'', SG, Baylor, Sr.)
55. Norris Cole (6'2'', PG, Cleveland State, Sr.)
56. Matthew Bryan-Amaning (6'8'', PF, Washington, Sr.)
57. Jon Leuer (6'10'', PF, Wisconsin, Sr.)
58. Wesley Witherspoon (6'8'', SF, Memphis, Jr.)
59. Rick Jackson (6'9'', PF, Syracuse, Sr.)
60. Malcolm Delaney (6'3'', PG, Virginia Tech, Sr.)
61. Pablo Aguilar (6'8'', PF, Spain)
62. Austin Freeman (6'4'', SG, Georgetown, Sr.)
63. Justin Hurtt (6'4'', SG, Tulsa, Sr.)
64. Demetri McCamey (6'3'', PG, Illinois, Sr.)
65. Jacob Pullen (6'1'', PG, Kansas State, Sr.)
66. Cam Long (6'4'', SG, George Mason, Sr.)
67. Robin Benzing (6'9'', SF, Germany)
68. Chris Wright (6'2'', PG, Georgetown, Sr.)
69. Durrell Summers (6'5'', SG, Michigan State, Sr.)
70. Chandler Parsons (6'10'', SF, Florida, Sr.)
71. Ben Hansbrough (6'3'', SG, Notre Dame, Sr.)
72. Anatoly Bose (6'6'', SG, Nichols State, Sr.)
73. David Lighty (6'6'', SG, Ohio State, Sr.)
74. Lavoy Allen (6'9'', PF, Temple, Sr.)
75. Charles Jenkins (6'3'', SG, Hofstra, Sr.)

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Dr Positivity · Post #310 » by **Dr Positivity** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:14 pm

I'll be shocked if Selby declares. He can probably still be a lotto pick if he comes back next year and drops 17 points, 4 assists+, which with his athletic tools and high school hype would likely be enough to make some team bite as they always do on combo guards who lit it up in college

Warspite · Post #311 » by **Warspite** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:19 pm

I wonder if the Kings might be looking to trade down with Utah and take there 2 picks. Sullinger to Utah and the Kings with Jones and Knight realy look like a good match.

FYI pick #23 belongs to Houston.

WillyJakkz · Post #312 » by **WillyJakkz** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:47 pm

Cammo,

Who do you think drafts my guy JaJuan Johnson and why do you think Nolan Smith goes in the 2nd RD?

You already know how I feel about Johnson and personally I think Smith could be the 4th best PG option in the draft (behind Irving, Walker, Fredette, and maybe Knight).

Cammo101 · Post #313 » by **Cammo101** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:01 pm

WillyJakkz wrote:Cammo,

Who do you think drafts my guy JaJuan Johnson and why do you think Nolan Smith goes in the 2nd RD?

You already know how I feel about Johnson and personally I think Smith could be the 4th best PG option in the draft (behind Irving, Walker, Fredette, and maybe Knight).

Pretty much any team in the late first to mid second round has a chance at grabbing Johnson. Everyone needs athletic bigs and at that point in the draft, people are looking for guys who can make their team and are not too worried about fit or need.

Nolan Smith may end up in the first round once all the returning players are out of the mocks. It is highly debatable whether Nolan Smith can be a true point guard at the NBA level. We know he can score, but he is a bit of a prospect without a position. He certainly lacks the upside and true position of the 4 guys you listed. Nolan Smith is a good player and I actually had him mocked to Atlanta for a long time in the first round. But, they traded their pick. Not many teams in the mid to late 1st round need point guards. If 2 of the 4 guys you listed manage to go back to school, then Nolan could really shoot up boards because of a big time lack of lead guards.

It seems you are in love with 4 year college players who are proven at the college level. Most NBA GMs are much less enamoured with the Johnson's and Smith's of the world and much more enamoured with the Jones's and Barnes's of the world.

WillyJakkz · Post #314 » by **WillyJakkz** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:26 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
WillyJakkz wrote:Cammo,

Who do you think drafts my guy JaJuan Johnson and why do you think Nolan Smith goes in the 2nd RD?

You already know how I feel about Johnson and personally I think Smith could be the 4th best PG option in the draft (behind Irving, Walker, Fredette, and maybe Knight).

Pretty much any team in the late first to mid second round has a chance at grabbing Johnson. Everyone needs athletic bigs and at that point in the draft, people are looking for guys who can make their team and are not too worried about fit or need.

Nolan Smith may end up in the first round once all the returning players are out of the mocks. It is highly debatable whether Nolan Smith can be a true point guard at the NBA level. We know he can score, but he is a bit of a prospect without a position. He certainly lacks the upside and true position of the 4 guys you listed. Nolan Smith is a good player and I actually had him mocked to Atlanta for a long time in the first round. But, they traded their pick. Not many teams in the mid to late 1st round need point guards. If 2 of the 4 guys you listed manage to go back to school, then Nolan could really shoot up boards because of a big time lack of lead guards.

It seems you are in love with 4 year college players who are proven at the college level. Most NBA GMs are much less enamoured with the Johnson's and Smith's of the world and much more enamoured with the Jones's and Barnes's of the world.

Things happen for a reason and Kyrie getting hurt allowed Smith to gain huge confidence and now he's playing like a really decent player (NBA-wise) to me who can manage a game, like Andre Miller, a big defensive PG who can manage a game but not the highlight reel PG that every team's fans look for.

As far as the bolded part, I just really like guys who can play and it's rare seeing guys staying all 4 yrs since most leave due to circumstance/ family situation I like guys that are solid players.

It sure didn't hurt Tim Duncan staying 4 yrs and Shane Battier has turned out to be a really solid pro that every team wants on their team.

While most GM's are looking to catch lightning in a bottle w/ the freshman underclassmen (who usually wash-out) I like guys whose talent is apparent regardless of class and those 2 seem like they would contribute to a team more than half these dudes who will be playing overseas w/ in 3 yrs (if they're lucky).

Cammo101 · Post #315 » by **Cammo101** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:39 pm

For the most part though, the draft is about finding stars, not finding nice role players. Every offseason, quality role players are available through free agency. The same can not be said for star players. If you do not draft a guy like LeBron or Dwight, it is almost impossible to get them. If you do not draft a guy like Shane Battier, you will have multiple chance to get him if you want him and there will no doubt be other similar players like him available.

This is why (rightly) GMs are trying to catch lightning in a bottle. Because lightning is what wins in the NBA. The first round is about finding future stars, the second round and free agency are about finding role players.

Post #316 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:42 pm

Speaking of 4 year college players, one guy who you have as borderline draftable that I think will have a long Kurt Thomas type career is Rick Jackson. He may be a bit vertically challenged for a C, but he's a moose with surprisingly good all-around skills.

WillyJakkz · Post #317 » by **WillyJakkz** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:34 am

Cammo101 wrote:For the most part though, the draft is about finding stars, not finding nice role players. Every offseason, quality role players are available through free agency. The same can not be said for star players. If you do not draft a guy like LeBron or Dwight, it is almost impossible to get them. If you do not draft a guy like Shane Battier, you will have multiple chance to get him if you want him and there will no doubt be other similar players like him available.

This is why (rightly) GMs are trying to catch lightning in a bottle. Because lightning is what wins in the NBA. The first round is about finding future stars, the second round and free agency are about finding role players.

Let's be real, these teams that are "lotto bound" more than likely have been in that same draft position year after year and if they haven't drafted or found their "LeBron, Durant, or Dwight" then maybe it's time to draft guys who actually can play instead of looking to cultivate these underclassmen into "stars".

Jazzfan12 · Post #318 » by **Jazzfan12** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:56 am

WillyJakkz wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:For the most part though, the draft is about finding stars, not finding nice role players. Every offseason, quality role players are available through free agency. The same can not be said for star players. If you do not draft a guy like LeBron or Dwight, it is almost impossible to get them. If you do not draft a guy like Shane Battier, you will have multiple chance to get him if you want him and there will no doubt be other similar players like him available.

This is why (rightly) GMs are trying to catch lightning in a bottle. Because lightning is what wins in the NBA. The first round is about finding future stars, the second round and free agency are about finding role players.

Let's be real, these teams that are "lotto bound" more than likely have been in that same draft position year after year and if they haven't drafted or found their "LeBron, Durant, or Dwight" then maybe it's time to draft guys who actually can play instead of looking to cultivate these underclassmen into "stars".

None of the teams drafting in the lottery have really picked a super high upside guy in a while.

WillyJakkz · Post #319 » by **WillyJakkz** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:15 am

Jazzfan12 wrote:
WillyJakkz wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:For the most part though, the draft is about finding stars, not finding nice role players. Every offseason, quality role players are available through free agency. The same can not be said for star players. If you do not draft a guy like LeBron or Dwight, it is almost impossible to get them. If you do not draft a guy like Shane Battier, you will have multiple chance to get him if you want him and there will no doubt be other similar players like him available.

This is why (rightly) GMs are trying to catch lightning in a bottle. Because lightning is what wins in the NBA. The first round is about finding future stars, the second round and free agency are about finding role players.

Let's be real, these teams that are "lotto bound" more than likely have been in that same draft position year after year and if they haven't drafted or found their "LeBron, Durant, or Dwight" then maybe it's time to draft guys who actually can play instead of looking to cultivate these underclassmen into "stars".

None of the teams drafting in the lottery have really picked a super high upside guy in a while.

That's my point pretty much.

LeBron, Durant, Dwight don't come around often but solid players are in the draft constantly or sometimes teams just draft terrible but the point is teams can't keep drafting BPA hoping they land "The One" and since Jet Li doesn't ball, these teams need to start drafting around what they do have.

Cammo101 · Post #320 » by **Cammo101** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:01 pm

3/25/11 (2012 Big Board)

1. Austin Rivers (6'4'', SG, High School)
2. Quincey Miller (6'9'', PF, High School)
3. Anthony Davis (6'9'', SF, High School)
4. Tristan Thompson (6'9'', PF, Texas, Fresh.)
5. James McAdoo (6'8'', PF, High School)
6. Michael Gilchrist (6'6'', SF, High School)
7. Tyler Honeycutt (6'8'', SF, UCLA, Soph.)
8. Jeremy Lamb (6'5'', SG, UConn, Fresh.)
9. Jereme Richmond (6'7'', SF, Illinois, Fresh.)
10. Marquise Teague (6'2'', PF, High School)
11. Tony Mitchell (6'8'', SF, Missouri, Fresh.)
12. Patric Young (6'9'', PF, Florida, Fresh.)
13. Rakeem Christmas (6'9'', PF, High School)
14. Terrence Ross (6'6'', SG, Washington, Fresh.)
15. Khris Middleton (6'7'', SF, Texas A&M, Soph.)
16. Doron Lamb (6'5'', SG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
17. CJ Leslie (6'8'', SF, North Carolina State, Fresh.)
18. Myck Kabongo (6'1'', PG, High School)
19. Kentavious Caldwell (6'6'', SG, High School)
20. Kendall Marshall (6'3'', PG, North Carolina, Fresh.)
21. Kris Joseph (6'7'', SF, Syracuse, Jr.)
22. LeBryan Nash (6'7'', SF, High School)
23. Klay Thompson (6'6'', SG, Washington State, Jr.)
24. Cory Joseph (6'3'', PG, Texas, Fresh.)
25. Darius Morris (6'4'', PF, Michigan, Soph.)
26. Augusto Cesar Lima (6'10'', PF, Brazil)
27. Bradley Beal (6'3'', SG, High School)
28. Ray McCallum (6'1'', PG, Detroit, Fresh.)
29. Maalik Wayns (6'1'', PG, Villanova, Soph.)
30. Shelvin Mack (6'2'', PG, Butler, Jr.)
31. William Buford (6'5'', SG, Ohio State, Jr.)
32. Will Barton (6'6'', SG, Memphis, Fresh.)
33. Mason Plumlee (6'11'', PF, Duke, Soph.)
34. Josh Selby (6'1'', SG, Kansas, Fresh.)
35. Reggie Jackson (6'3'', SG, Boston College, Jr.)
36. Evan Fournier (6'6'', SG, France)
37. Rodney Williams (6'7'', SG, Minnesota, Soph.)
38. Rudy Gobert (6'10'', PF, France)
39. Festus Ezeli (6'11'', C, Vanderbilt, Jr.)
40. Reggie Bullock (6'5'', SG, North Carolina, Fresh.)
41. Travis Leslie (6'4'', SG, Georgia, Jr.)
42. Elias Harris (6'8'', SF, Gonzaga, Soph.)
43. Dejan Musli (7'0'', C, Serbia)
44. Scottie Hopson (6'7'', SF, Tennessee, Jr.)
45. Dee Bost (6'2'', PG, Mississippi State, Jr.)
46. Mouphtaou Yarou (6'9'', PF, Villanova, Soph.)
47. Aaric Murray (6'10'', C, La Salle, Soph.)
48. Arnett Moultrie (6'11'', PF, Mississippi State, Soph.)
49. Thomas Robinson (6'8'', PF, Kansas, Soph.)
50. JaMychal Green (6'8'', PF, Alabama, Jr.)
51. Ashton Gibbs (6'2'', PG, Pittsburgh, Jr.)
52. Joffrey Lauvergne (6'10'', PF, France)
53. Durand Scott (6'3'', SG, Miami, Soph.)
54. Tu Holloway (6'0'', PG, Xavier, Jr.)
55. Jordan Taylor (6'1'', PG, Wisconsin, Jr.)
56. Wesley Witherspoon (6'7'', SF, Memphis, Jr.)
57. Willie Reed (6'9'', PF, Kansas State, Jr.)
58. Isaiah Thomas (5'10'', PG, Washington, Jr.)www.realgm.com
59. Christian Watford (6'8'', PF, Indiana, Soph.)
60. Bernard James (6'10'', PF, Florida State, Jr.)

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