New Orleans Hornets @ Utah Jazz, 7:00pm

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Re: New Orleans Hornets @ Utah Jazz, 7:00pm 

Post#101 » by eLo » Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:52 am

F***, Sap he is so good he cant miss a ft :evil: :evil: they hustle and big gratz for that, but that was stupid defeat
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Re: New Orleans Hornets @ Utah Jazz, 7:00pm 

Post#102 » by jazzed77 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:54 am

jazzfan1971 wrote:Ehh, Okafor hit a miracle shot. good for him.

Nice game by the Jazz.

NO problem with the playcalling down the stretch. I say make the free throw myself, even with how it ended. That way you can't lose on a 2.


the only problem i see with that theory is that the only shot they have time to take if u miss is a 3, a 60ft 3pt shot at that
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Re: New Orleans Hornets @ Utah Jazz, 7:00pm 

Post#103 » by Sloanfeld » Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:55 am

Honestly guys, I don't know how many of you guys have ever practiced it, but missing an FT on purpose isn't hard. I see a lot of players try to brick it off the back of the rim but it's much easier to do it off of the front. Yao Ming did it to perfection in a game against the Lakers a few years ago. They needed a three with less than 3 seconds left and Yao had one FT left, he had a perfect miss and the ball came back to him, tipped it out to Alston or somebody but he missed the three,
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Post#104 » by Ern III » Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:00 am

New Orleans won but lost quite a lot tonight. They won't see David West until next season.

There are few things more uncomfortable than watching someone suffer a major injury. One of those is when the stream being watched doesn't take commercial breaks and one's left watching and listening to the player writhing in a crumpled heap for a couple of minutes.

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Post#105 » by red4hf » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:28 pm

MIllsap is awesome on offense....... Absolutely awesome....... His game has evolved so much since his rookie year, it's like he's a compeltely different player......

On the other hand, he is absolutely dreadful on defense, he is worse than Boozer....... Seriously worse....... At least Boozer will grab the defensive rebound......
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Post#106 » by carrottop12 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:08 pm

Sap was I. Foul trouble, rust is the reason his defense was lackluster last night, but overall he's a far better defender than boozer. Outside of rebounding, it isn't close.
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Post#107 » by red4hf » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:16 pm

It's not about last night's game...... It's about the entire season, his rebounding has been terrible....... And MIllsap has been lit up by everyone in the league....... There's no way to explain that away without admitting that he is just bad on the defensive end...... Maybe it's his lack of height and not effort, but whatever it is, he is terrible......

Say what you want about Boozer, but he's playing on one of the best defensive teams in the NBA, a team that was missing Noah for most of the season, and it's not like Boozer is playing 10 minutes a game...... So, it can't just be an accident......
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Post#108 » by Jazzfan12 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:28 pm

Boozer and Millsap both ranked as two of the worst defenders in the NBA going by Synergy stats which track every play. They had the same rating as well.
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Post#109 » by Efernand » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:36 pm

red4hf wrote:Say what you want about Boozer, but he's playing on one of the best defensive teams in the NBA, a team that was missing Noah for most of the season, and it's not like Boozer is playing 10 minutes a game...... So, it can't just be an accident......


I think every Bulls fan would tell you that they are great defensively in spite of Boozer.
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Post#110 » by Ern III » Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:06 pm

Indeed they would because it's true.

Millsap was drafted partly because he was arguably the best college rebounder. His size is the problem in this league. Jefferson's a worse rebounder. There's little mystery as to why Utah are third to last in defensive rebounding percentage. This club needs swingmen not only capable of consistently hitting outside jumpers, but helping on the glass. Landry Fields types.
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Post#111 » by The59Sound » Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:20 pm

Ern III wrote:Indeed they would because it's true.

Millsap was drafted partly because he was arguably the best college rebounder. His size is the problem in this league. Jefferson's a worse rebounder. There's little mystery as to why Utah are third to last in defensive rebounding percentage. This club needs swingmen not only capable of consistently hitting outside jumpers, but helping on the glass. Landry Fields types.


He wasn't arguably the best rebounder; I believe he was the best rebounder three years in a row. But, yeah, the size hurts him someon the defensive boards.
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Post#112 » by UTJazzFan_Echo1 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:33 pm

Jazzfan12 wrote:Boozer and Millsap both ranked as two of the worst defenders in the NBA going by Synergy stats which track every play. They had the same rating as well.

And this is exactly why you start Favors and bring Millsap off the bench as a sixth man.
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Post#113 » by StocktonShorts » Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:19 pm

Ern III wrote:Indeed they would because it's true.

Millsap was drafted partly because he was arguably the best college rebounder. His size is the problem in this league. Jefferson's a worse rebounder. There's little mystery as to why Utah are third to last in defensive rebounding percentage. This club needs swingmen not only capable of consistently hitting outside jumpers, but helping on the glass. Landry Fields types.


Total Rebound % for Jazzmen:

Jefferson: 16.1
Millsap: 13.9
AK: 9.9
CJ Miles: 8.1
Raja: 5.0
Evans: 13.3
Watson: 6.8
Favors: 14.4
Hayward: 7.6

This indicates the percentage of all available rebounds grabbed by that player while on the floor.
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Post#114 » by red4hf » Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:42 pm

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red4hf wrote:Say what you want about Boozer, but he's playing on one of the best defensive teams in the NBA, a team that was missing Noah for most of the season, and it's not like Boozer is playing 10 minutes a game...... So, it can't just be an accident......


I think every Bulls fan would tell you that they are great defensively in spite of Boozer.


That's fine....... That doesn't make MIllsap any better defensively though, does it?.......

And he's nowehere near as good a defensiv rebounder as Boozer to boot.......

So, where does that leave us?
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Post#115 » by Ern III » Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:49 am

HappyProle wrote:Total Rebound % for Jazzmen:

Jefferson: 16.1
Millsap: 13.9
AK: 9.9
CJ Miles: 8.1
Raja: 5.0
Evans: 13.3
Watson: 6.8
Favors: 14.4
Hayward: 7.6

This indicates the percentage of all available rebounds grabbed by that player while on the floor.


Like the individual plus-minus stat, these numbers aren't much good in isolation. Therefore, I'm unsure as to what you're trying to infer. Is it that Jefferson's a better rebounder than Millsap? If so: were you to post the Mavs' career numbers, I presume they'd indicate that Dirk Nowitzki's a better career rebounder than Jason Kidd, even though it's not the case. Mine eyes told me so, as might the attestations of their previous coaches....

The59Sound wrote:[Millsap] wasn't arguably the best rebounder; I believe he was the best rebounder three years in a row.


.... and hence, I was somewhat tentative in declaring Paul arguably the best college rebounder. Of course, his case is a very strong one.
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Re: New Orleans Hornets @ Utah Jazz, 7:00pm 

Post#116 » by Pai Gow » Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:39 am

red4hf wrote:
Efernand wrote:
red4hf wrote:Say what you want about Boozer, but he's playing on one of the best defensive teams in the NBA, a team that was missing Noah for most of the season, and it's not like Boozer is playing 10 minutes a game...... So, it can't just be an accident......


I think every Bulls fan would tell you that they are great defensively in spite of Boozer.


That's fine....... That doesn't make MIllsap any better defensively though, does it?.......

And he's nowehere near as good a defensiv rebounder as Boozer to boot.......

So, where does that leave us?


With a guy who plays at least 90% of the games vs. a guy who you'll be lucky to hit 60%

I'm sorry, but injuries is a huge part of the game and that is something Millsap takes a **** on Boozer. Whether it be Boozer really getting hurt or what, you can count on Millsap being out there unless it was really serious.

I'd rather a guy go out there and show us grit rather than their Gucci suit.
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Re: New Orleans Hornets @ Utah Jazz, 7:00pm 

Post#117 » by Soul Patch » Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:50 am

I think a lot of it has to do with our schemes. I hope Corbin changes them this offseason.
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