Can We Trade for a PF?

Post #1 » by **NyCeEvO** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:22 pm

Ok, all of you wannabe Nets GMs and NBA 2k11 Dynasty experts, we've got a problem on our hands. With David West going down and most likely exercising his player option to stay in NO along with reports of Z-Bo getting a contract extension, it looks like available FA PFs will be slim pickings, which means that we'll have to overpay someone because of the demand for big men.

One option that we haven't discussed too much is trading for a PF. Is it realistically possible to get a PF that we all want at the right price without sacrificing too much? Who would you want to trade for (bearing in mind that we're not trying to spend all of our cap) and what's the scenario? I figured that I'd open the topic up to see what you guys think.

N Ireland Nets · Post #2 » by **N Ireland Nets** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:38 pm

It's hard to understand who we could really target. Firstly who would we be looking rid of?

- Outlaw
- Petro
- Farmar
- Hump

For me our best tradable assets are Farmar & Hump. What about a sign & trade deal of some sort for hump?

Would it make sense to trade hump for another PF?

I can't think of many possible targets tbh, this is why I'm so worried about the offseason. Bar Nene we really don't have many options. So basically I haven't a clue haha

Ronito · Post #3 » by **Ronito** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:31 pm

Josh Smith. Team is falling, and aren't getting any better. Time for them to rebuild. Go get Josh Smith.

Jersey Generals · Post #4 » by **Jersey Generals** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:21 pm

Can't trade any future assets for a pf. The Nets might need them for a potential Howard deal, meaning whatever they can trade this off-season is limited to anything that is not in the future, ie: bought picks, the LAL pick, sign-and-traded Hump/Wright. So whatever you can get with those assets, is the only thing worth getting, which I don't think is very much.

xam2k7 · Post #5 » by **xam2k7** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:15 pm

honestly we might just have to settle for hump next year and keep our draft pick or trade hump and our pick for a higher pick. Next years draft is going to be EXTREMELY deep... like deep into the 20s... especially with all of the highly touted big men from this year already saying that theyr staying at school. I say with the team we have now with a healthy dwill and maybe a wing from free agency is a playoff team. satisfying to have a potentially winning season next year and get that x-factor in summer 2012.

thats what im feelin right now.

deepblueday · Post #6 » by **deepblueday** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:44 pm

You people baffle me, how you can watch this team and think Kris is where we need to upgrade is **** astounding. Worry about the 2 and the 3 before you even consider trying to find a borderline All-Star at the 4, which is the caliber of the player you're talking about if we're making any kind of significant upgrade over Kris.

Would Kris be better playing 25-26 MPG off the bench? Sure, probably. But if plays like he has this year, he is a more than sufficient starter. This team has two problems:

1) Both wing positions. We are easily the worst team in the NBA at these spots. I mean, it's ridiculous, you watch any other team besides the Nets and they actually have players that attempt to put the ball on the floor and drive to the basket OTHER THAN THEIR PGs. We just don't do that. Morrow, Vujacic, Outlaw, James, Ross, Graham, there is really no ability here whatsoever. Morrow is a great spot shooter, can't do anything else but he earns his time with that, the rest should struggle to make NBA rosters, much less receive significant playing time.

2) Weakness at the 5. I really don't think most here recognize how truly limited Brook is. You can't put together a championship roster with a sieve like him at center, you just can't. And most of the time he isn't even aggressive on offense. Yesterday he took 8 shots. And I don't for a second put any of the blame for that on his teammates. ****, look at tonight's game. He's our best player on the floor tonight... Does he show any fire, any desire to even try to put the team on his back? I'm done with him.

LOUiS-D · Post #7 » by **LOUiS-D** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:17 am

Agree with deepblue about the bigger need being at the 3 and 2. We need another guy who can attack the basket and draw fouls. Trav, morrow and the machine don't have the handles to do that. James has the hustle, he was a good pick up. Another thing we need for balance to be successful is a post presence off the bench.

Disagree about Brook. I think the kid will get there. He's shown growth despite the problems, he's been handling double teams better and he's had some clutch plays down the stretch. Most of all, he's got the softest touch around the rim out of any big in the league and knows how to draw fouls and make FTs.

xam2k7 · Post #8 » by **xam2k7** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:26 am

brooks game is 100% mental which could be 1 of 2 things... either he just isnt mature enough yet or he truly is just an extremely weak minded person. he has no heart bc when the chips are down he drags them down even more, but when the chips are up hes amazing. he either needs to grow up or if this is just who he is then we better be winning otherwise hes a cancer.

for gods sake he had 6 pts and 0 rebs in 30 mins played tonight. 0 rebs.

Lamak · Post #9 » by **Lamak** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:15 pm

Like other posters have said one of our better positions is PF. We need a SG/SF who can handle the ball and create offense to take pressure of Deron.

jeff1624 · Post #10 » by **jeff1624** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:25 pm

Lamak wrote:Like other posters have said one of our better positions is PF. We need a SG/SF who can handle the ball and create offense to take pressure of Deron.

Uhh, we DO need a PF. For all the crap Lopez gets around here.. even in a down year he has a higher PER than Humphries who's in the middle of his best season ever.

vincecarter4pres · Post #11 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:46 pm

Basically the only place we don't need an upgrade is the 1 and the 5...

GP · Post #12 » by GP » Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:53 pm

I love what Hump has done this year, but I am always weary of a player that has a career year during their final year of their contract. 10pts 10rebounds is pretty good and you definitely need the extra rebounds with Brook in the middle. The reason everyone is thinking about trading hump is because right now he is the most desirable player the nets have who is available. I know someone is going to overpay Hump, I just hope that its not the nets.

vincecarter4pres · Post #13 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:58 pm

GP wrote:The reason everyone is thinking about trading hump is because right now he is the most desirable player the nets have who is available.

Umm, no.

The reason everyone is thinking about trading Hump is because he may very well have been the product of a contract year and/or he may have priced himself out of the Nets range in relation to his impact and importance in addition to the long term implications on the salary cap, thank you very much.

Jersey Generals · Post #14 » by **Jersey Generals** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:33 pm

^Bingo.

jeff1624 · Post #15 » by **jeff1624** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:03 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
GP wrote:The reason everyone is thinking about trading hump is because right now he is the most desirable player the nets have who is available.

Umm, no.

The reason everyone is thinking about trading Hump is because he may very well have been the product of a contract year and/or he may have priced himself out of the Nets range in relation to his impact and importance in addition to the long term implications on the salary cap, thank you very much.

I personally don't think this. I think he's found his niche as a rebound/energy guy. His problem was that he thought he was a better player than he actually is, with a strong coach I don't think he'll revert to that again. The rest I agree with. I don't want this team to pay him more than 7 mil per year.

nycefnl · Post #16 » by **nycefnl** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:08 pm

I agree with you guys....we need a 2,3,4,5....I like Humph...but he would come off the bench in a CHAMPIONSHIP team.

Get JR Smith can shoot, got to the whole with authority, play defense and shoot
Get Tyson Chandler
Get Wilson Chandler
Trade Lopez for Cousins

Cousins shows post up game against prime players like Gasol in only his first year. He's already a stud.

PG DWill, Farmar
SG JR Smith, Murrow
SF WChandler, DWright
PF Cousins, Humph
C TChandler, Petro

Preludepunk27 · Post #17 » by **Preludepunk27** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:38 pm

^^^^

Since when does JR Smith play defense? That's the first time I've ever heard anyone mention his D as a strong point to his game.

Either way, I said around the deadline our biggest needs are our wing positions and they still should be priority 1 and 2 in my book.

As far as hump goes, I hope we're not hasty and sign him quickly. We really need to play chess with him and let the market dictate his contract. While he's playing great and I love the kid (eating crow since I HATED him prior to the day we got him), I still can't see him as a starting PF on a championship caliber team. However, if we acquire a legit PF in the offseason that can start at the 5 and play spot minutes at the 5, we can still find 20mpg for Hump as the 1st big (energy guy off the bench).

That is personally how I envision him. Ulimately, I'd love to sign him to a 5 year deal (team option year 4, player option year 5) in the 17-22 mill category. I don't think that's unreasonable for a 6/7 man in the rotation. We really have to let the market and CBA play out. He seems like the kind of guy who would let us know what other deals he gets offered and give us the chance to match it.

I just ask for everyone to be patient this offseason. Other than draft night trades, I don't believe we're going to make big splashes too early in free agency.

xam2k7 · Post #18 » by **xam2k7** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:39 pm

nycefnl wrote:I agree with you guys....we need a 2,3,4,5....I like Humph...but he would come off the bench in a CHAMPIONSHIP team.

Get JR Smith can shoot, got to the whole with authority, play defense and shoot
Get Tyson Chandler
Get Wilson Chandler
Trade Lopez for Cousins

Cousins shows post up game against prime players like Gasol in only his first year. He's already a stud.

PG DWill, Farmar
SG JR Smith, Murrow
SF WChandler, DWright
PF Cousins, Humph
C TChandler, Petro

Who is DWright? do you mean outlaw?

this scenario sounds good in theory... i think it would be tough to trade lopez for cousins i would rather try to trade him to cleveland along with maybe outlaw and our first round pick for next year for their top pick this year and hopefully be lucky enough to draft derrick williams or harrison barnes... but only if we can put these other pieces around those guys... if not i like to hang on to brook

624 · Post #19 » by **624** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:17 pm

I don't want Cousins anywhere near this team

Preludepunk27 · Post #20 » by **Preludepunk27** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:11 pm

P.S. To everyone on this board. I'm just stating the following:

If you put DeMarcus Cousins in your post for a good offseason plan, I will start blocking your posts. I don't care how much respect I have for some people on this board, you lose ALL OF IT if you put DeMarcus in the equation.

I'd rather talk to RagTime every day for the rest of my life about how Stromile Swift puts up better 4th quarter stats with under 3 minutes in games played on Tuesday when the temperature is above 46 degrees and he gets the ball on the left block than ANYONE in NBA history than listen to anyone try to convince me that DeMarcus Cousins should be on this team.

The only player with mental problems I would consider taking on right now is Michael Beasley but I really don't want him either if I have to pay dollar for dollar.