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Indomitable · Post #81 » by **Indomitable** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:33 pm

Westbrook I hear ya. But the Heat would give you guys a lot of problems.

Uptown the Bulls beat you 3 times. Those free throws were deserved because he was fouled. Next time tell Miller not push Deng. Then there would have been no foul call.

Boston, Chicago, New York all have given your over hyped team the flux this year. I think you better pray you get the 76ers.

k-SkiLLz · Post #82 » by **k-SkiLLz** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:56 pm

what a thread.. XD

Uptown Report · Post #83 » by **Uptown Report** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:44 pm

Nobull wrote:Westbrook I hear ya. But the Heat would give you guys a lot of problems.

Uptown the Bulls beat you 3 times. Those free throws were deserved because he was fouled. Next time tell Miller not push Deng. Then there would have been no foul call.

Boston, Chicago, New York all have given your over hyped team the flux this year. I think you better pray you get the 76ers.

New York? not really.

and no. those free throws were not deserved. But the Bulls deserved to win all three games. Calls are calls. The refs see fit to give 4 consecutive ft's on one possession to a team down 2, then there is nothing you can do.

and again...how the hell are the Heat "overhyped" when all that everybody ever does it take giant dumps on them.

pretty soon, they will be "over-achievers".

Now..your Bulls...that is for another day, another thread, another board.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #84 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:18 pm

Uptown Report wrote:
Westbrook36 wrote:119 points tonight to the mediocre Rockets.

Great defense.

You are just precious.

Yes, they gave up 119 points to Houston, they scored 125 in a win. (Kevin Martin hit a buzzer beater for a crowd pleasing 6 point loss)

Just like the #1 defensive team, the Bulls gave up 116 to Houston as well. 115 to Phoenix, 120 to New York, 118 to Toronto, 115 to Indiana...etc..

it's called the NBA season you boob.

Oddly enough, that broke a string of 8 consecutive games allowing less than 100 points.

I know that it feels as if I am just beating on a defenseless injured dog at this point, but it's too fun.

The Bulls are the best team in the east, but they are not the #1 defensive team. The Spurs are. The Bucks are supposedly ranked in the top 5 too. Are you telling me the Bucks are this great defensive team? Please. When you really don't know the game, it's a shame you have to rely on stats to make your points for you.

Btw.. you speak of that 30 and 10 stat like it is something to be proud of. 3 players get like 90% of your points because your team has NOTHING else. Not to mention 2 of those "big 3" (or maybe "little 3" would be more appropriate) happen to be as overrated as they come and don't have a winning bone in their body.

You win championships as a team. You aren't going to be able to beat up on the good teams letting 3 guys do everything. It doesn't work that way. Then again, I don't expect you to realize that since you just started watching basketball this year.

Uptown Report · Post #85 » by **Uptown Report** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:35 pm

LOL. I have been watching basketball longer than the time you had your last lobotomy.

Now the Bulls are not the best defensive team. OHHH-KAY!

When you don't know basketball, you think that stats are irrelevant in the NBA, because your pre-disposed biases and psychosis consume you.

Certain Stats in the NBA have been a great predictor of success.

The Spurs this year are a pace/offensive execution team relying on the three point shot.

BUT, since you now say that they are the best team in the league and the best defensive team as well................

The Heat beat them by 30, and since you put a ton of stock in single games, then the Heat is clearly the best NBA team since the 85 Celtics.

I win!

LongLiveHinkie · Post #86 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:45 pm

The Spurs beat the Heat by 30 more than the Heat beat them by 30. Tony Parker was gimpy and the team clearly packed that one in for rest, while in the game the Spurs won, the Heat played like their lives were on the line and pathetically could not muster up any effort. The Spurs had a Mavs game the next night which was much bigger and had much more significant playoff implications. Since you just started watching basketball this year, you'd know nothing about a "look-ahead game."

You saw first hand what the best defense in the NBA did. Like I said, going by your useless stats for opponents PPG, the Bucks would be in the top 3. Yeah, they sure have a lot of HOF defenders on that team.

You can make up stuff all you want about being this long-time seasoned NBA fan, but like I said: when you just start watching basketball recently, it's a lot easier to read off stats than actually break down the game. Sadly, you can't do the latter.

KDS91 · Post #87 » by **KDS91** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:59 pm

Foshan wrote:I feel like I'm watching a stray dog being beaten with a baseball bat. I want to intercede and help as much as I want to walk the other way... yet here I sit unable to do anything but watch and shudder.

Same here.

Uptown Report, I still don't know why you don't just stop. The views of just one Sixers fan really shouldn't warrant such an argument, especially when pretty much everyone else doesn't share the same view.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #88 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:35 pm

He feels like a knight in shining armor coming over to defend his beloved "Heatles" so he just can't help himself.

sixerswillrule · Post #89 » by **sixerswillrule** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:39 pm

Westbrook36 wrote:The Bulls are the best team in the east, but they are not the #1 defensive team. The Spurs are. The Bucks are supposedly ranked in the top 5 too. Are you telling me the Bucks are this great defensive team? Please. When you really don't know the game, it's a shame you have to rely on stats to make your points for you.

The Bucks are a great defensive team. They have probably the worst offense in the league, though, which is why they're only .400. If their defense was only average, then their record would be much worse than that.

Miami is easily a top 5 defense in the league. Even if your pace theory was correct(which it isn't, the Heat are 19th in the league in possessions per game), then how in the world could you still discount how Miami's opponents are 2nd worst in the league in field goal percentage? That means teams try to score in the half-court against them, and they fail.

It's a shame that your ridiculous biases force you to completely ignore facts and base your arguments on absolutely nothing other than your claim to watch the games and make it seem as if you know what you're talking about when it's pretty much the exact opposite.

But this all sums it up well:

Sixerlover wrote:Yeah you're arguing with a wall right now.

Still Desi wrote:Westbrook36 trying to prove to others that he is right is pure comedy gold

Kobblehead wrote:Westbrook is in the wrong here

Foshan wrote:I feel like I'm watching a stray dog being beaten with a baseball bat. I want to intercede and help as much as I want to walk the other way... yet here I sit unable to do anything but watch and shudder.

agentk16 wrote:The views of just one Sixers fan really shouldn't warrant such an argument, especially when pretty much everyone else doesn't share the same view.

Uptown Report · Post #90 » by **Uptown Report** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:39 pm

agentk16 wrote:
Foshan wrote:I feel like I'm watching a stray dog being beaten with a baseball bat. I want to intercede and help as much as I want to walk the other way... yet here I sit unable to do anything but watch and shudder.

Same here.

Uptown Report, I still don't know why you don't just stop. The views of just one Sixers fan really shouldn't warrant such an argument, especially when pretty much everyone else doesn't share the same view.

Yeah..it's lost it's luster. But you have to admit that getting Westbrook to admit that he thinks the NBA is skewing stats in the Heat's favor, and they are photoshopping crowd pictures and editing game video to make the Heat look better is some funny ****.

Although, now I feel offended for Bulls fans that he thinks that they are not the #1 defense in the league. The Bulls are terrible at offense and somehow they have the #1 seed now. UH..I wonder why.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #91 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:49 pm

Since when does opponent FG% speak of how good a defense is? For one, the stat is completely fluky and based all off luck and chance. Nor does it speak to how good a defense is. They have no interior shotblockers and have no one to stop penetration on the perimeter. So you can throw out all the meaningless stats you want, but those are facts that can't be disputed. It's all about players and their capabilities rather than the numbers.

Boston statistically had a better defensive ranking than the Lakers last year. Orlando statistically had a better ranking than the Celtics. Both PPG-wise and FG% wise and point differential. I'm sorry... refresh my memory, but who won the Celtics/Magic series last year? Looks like the stats didn't do a whole lot of good in that series, huh?

Uptown Report · Post #92 » by **Uptown Report** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:52 pm

Westbrook36 wrote:The Spurs beat the Heat by 30 more than the Heat beat them by 30. Tony Parker was gimpy and the team clearly packed that one in for rest, while in the game the Spurs won, the Heat played like their lives were on the line and pathetically could not muster up any effort. The Spurs had a Mavs game the next night which was much bigger and had much more significant playoff implications. Since you just started watching basketball this year, you'd know nothing about a "look-ahead game."
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WTF?

When The Heat lost by 30 to the Spurs, THAT WAS WHEN Parker was gimpy. He almost didn't suit up, yet played hurt anyway, so obviously the Spurs seemed to want that game to play Parker ahead of schedule. AND the Heat was on a second of a back to back after blowing a 24 point lead the night before. IT WAS THE OPPOSITE of what you said. The Heat was the team that looked like they could care less and the Spurs set a franchise record in threes.

The SECOND time they played, BOTH TEAMS came in with REST. The Spurs did not have the Mavs the next night either. They played them 4 days later.

The Heat beat them by 30.

SO WHICH ONE was the better barometer? The OPPOSITE of the one you said...of course. To any objective observer.

These are just facts of course.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Uptown Report · Post #93 » by **Uptown Report** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:54 pm

Westbrook36 wrote:Since when does opponent FG% speak of how good a defense is?

Since every Head Coach in the NBA calls it the most telling defensive stat..besides points per possession of course.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #94 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:56 pm

Of course the Heat looked like they didn't care. That seems to happen a lot. When you have a team compiled with a bunch of losers, you don't get the effort every night. The Heat were in the midst of a losing streak at the time, had a chance to snap it, and came out with a pathetic effort. It speaks volumes about the team.

Talk about no heart. Going down like chumps after losing two straight. Then losing to the Bulls as well. What a bunch of losers.

Sixerlover · Post #95 » by **Sixerlover** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:04 pm

I honestly think at this point he's doing it to be funny.

Sixerlover · Post #96 » by **Sixerlover** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:05 pm

Westbrook36 wrote:Of course the Heat looked like they didn't care. That seems to happen a lot. When you have a team compiled with a bunch of losers, you don't get the effort every night. The Heat were in the midst of a losing streak at the time, had a chance to snap it, and came out with a pathetic effort. It speaks volumes about the team.

Talk about no heart. Going down like chumps after losing two straight. Then losing to the Bulls as well. What a bunch of losers.

Serious question though, why don't you address ANY facts that he presents? In the last rant you were incorrect about at least 3 things that you didn't even mention just now

LongLiveHinkie · Post #97 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:10 pm

SixerLover since there are no PMs here, do you have an email? I wanted to ask you something.

Sixerlover · Post #98 » by **Sixerlover** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:18 pm

Westbrook36 wrote:SixerLover since there are no PMs here, do you have an email? I wanted to ask you something.

yea i hate giving mine out online so ill just check my little brothers :lol:

parts101 @ yahoo dot com

Uptown Report · Post #99 » by **Uptown Report** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:24 pm

Westbrook36 wrote:Of course the Heat looked like they didn't care. That seems to happen a lot. When you have a team compiled with a bunch of losers, you don't get the effort every night. The Heat were in the midst of a losing streak at the time, had a chance to snap it, and came out with a pathetic effort. It speaks volumes about the team.

Talk about no heart. Going down like chumps after losing two straight. Then losing to the Bulls as well. What a bunch of losers.

The last thing those guys are is "losers".

I really want to get to the bottom of this. What is your problem with them? Why are you consumed with this much hate?

You also contradict yourself alot. You now say they don;t give any effort, yet they will likely win 60.

So if they had given effort all year...they win...what? 70? So you are saying they have the potential to be an all-time great team?

BTW...a team compiled of a bunch of losers? LOL

Dwyane Wade: NBA Champ, Finals MVP, Final Four appearance, Gold Medalist
Mario Chalmers: National Champion.
Lebron James: National HS Champion, 2 time MVP, EC Champion, Gold Medalist
Chris Bosh: National HS Champion, 6 time all-star, Gold Medalist.
Erik Dampier: Final Four, WC Champion.
Mike Miller: Final Four.
James Jones: 3 pt. Champion.
Mike Bibby: National Champion.
Udonis Haslem: Final Four, NBA Champ.
Eddie House: NBA Champ
Zydrunas Ilgauskas: EC Champion.
Juwon Howard: 2x Final Four.
Jamal Magliore: National Champion.
Joel Anthony: 2x Conf. Champ.

Yep..a bunch of losers.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #100 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:33 pm

The only one that won anything of significance is Wade. 3 point champion? Really? Really? You must have low standards. Typical.

Not to mention you have to go back into a lot of their college days to dig up stuff. Hey, maybe Lebron won a little league championship when he was 11. Go look that up. He's a loser and he quit on his team in the playoffs last year because he was looking ahead to free agency. You are the one stuck with that poison, not me. You are going to have to put up with his coming up small in big games(don't use the old Detroit 2007 argument either). In two years you'll be eager to get him out of town when your team still hasn't won anything.