The Memphis Grizzlies are Top 5 in the West at this point

Grizfan6969 · Post #261 » by **Grizfan6969** » Sun Apr 3, 2011 12:30 am

Spanish_Laker wrote:Rudy Gay's ballhogness is a cancer for this team, now they are shooting at all cylinders. The Spurs better be prepared.

Memphis will get the 6th seed and Dallas.

DanTown8587 · Post #262 » by **DanTown8587** » Sun Apr 3, 2011 12:48 am

Zach Randolph is officially underrated. the guy is worth as much as any PF in the NBA yet when people say their top PF, how many have Randolph? I really like this Grizzles team and I think they can beat any team they get in the West. And I do think they're at least no worse without Gay as they are with him.

Sasaki · Post #263 » by **Sasaki** » Sun Apr 3, 2011 1:05 am

DanTown8587 wrote:Zach Randolph is officially underrated. the guy is worth as much as any PF in the NBA yet when people say their top PF, how many have Randolph? I really like this Grizzles team and I think they can beat any team they get in the West. And I do think they're at least no worse without Gay as they are with him.

Randolph is as good as Stoudamire or Dirk.
........................I certainly hope the Grizzlies think so so they can dump a max deal on the guy.

Studemire1 · Post #264 » by **Studemire1** » Sun Apr 3, 2011 1:25 am

BarbaGrizz wrote:Right now, Memphis is TOP 5 in the NBA.

teamgrizz · Post #265 » by **teamgrizz** » Sun Apr 3, 2011 1:37 am

25-10 over the last 35 games.

I'll say they have been one of the better teams in the league over that stretch. Probably not top 5, but easily top 10.

BarbaGrizz · Post #266 » by **BarbaGrizz** » Sun Apr 3, 2011 6:46 pm

Who´s playing better than Grizzlies?

monopoman · Post #267 » by **monopoman** » Sun Apr 3, 2011 6:47 pm

LOL @ Rudy Gay "franchise" player.

Post #268 » by **The Rebel** » Sun Apr 3, 2011 7:14 pm

BarbaGrizz wrote:Who´s playing better than Grizzlies?

Since the Melo deal the Nuggets have been better, the Bulls are doing pretty damn well the last couple of months as well.

Blame Rasho · Post #269 » by **Blame Rasho** » Sun Apr 3, 2011 7:40 pm

They will be a hard out for any team in the playoffs. They can really hurt teams with their size up front.

Blazing_royale · Post #270 » by **Blazing_royale** » Sun Apr 3, 2011 8:01 pm

they're the best team in the league in terms of points scored in the paint. big trouble for those with weak frontcourt

bullsnewdynasty · Post #271 » by **bullsnewdynasty** » Sun Apr 3, 2011 8:11 pm

Some of the posters on page 17 are hiding in shame right now.

mid-post · Post #272 » by **mid-post** » Sun Apr 3, 2011 8:55 pm

Jay From LA wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
MayoisMemphis wrote:I agree with the OP because Memphis will be a border line top 10 defense next year

You think they are going to leap 9+ spots in the league defensively without any major defensive additions? Why's that? Expecting a mad breakout year from Thabeet?

Tony Allen will single handedly push them 9 spots up

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teamgrizz · Post #273 » by **teamgrizz** » Sun Apr 3, 2011 9:07 pm

JesusChrist13 · Post #274 » by **JesusChrist13** » Sun Apr 3, 2011 10:12 pm

Grizzlies are like a devoted highschool team. they can never be predicted. I say they'll move on to the second round. I wish they would play the spurs on round one (spurs would lose that series no doubt) but that seems tough atm now that Grizz may end up with the sixth seed.

Egg Nog · Post #275 » by **Egg Nog** » Sun Apr 3, 2011 10:27 pm

Kariya wrote:Rudy Gay is overrated. I do like their team though.

Gay's not overrated. He's definitely a solid all-around player, but the average NBA fan isn't calling him more than that.

jefe · Post #276 » by **jefe** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 2:02 am

From Page 6

jefe wrote:Top 5 is certainly pushing it and won't happen barring significant injuries within the WC or a significant midseason trade by the Grizz; however, I think 7 or 8 is attainable.

Last year, the Grizz finished 40-42. This record included a 1-8 start thanks to Canswer, a skid at the end of the year due to Marc Gasol's injury (missed the final 13 games of the season IIRC), and a non-existent bench (I don't where to find the stat, but the Grizz starters scored the largest % of their team's points in the NBA - i.e. we had the least productive bench, relative to starters, in the league). Assuming good health, taking away the Canswer factor, and taking into account the minor improvements to the bench (Allen, Henry, Vasquez, and a healthy Arthur), I think a 7-to-9 win improvement is possible. Obviously, that would put the Grizz at 47-49 wins, which may or may not be enough to slide into the 7 or 8 spot depending on how the rest of the West shakes out. Absent significant injuries to conference foes or a significant trade to bolster the Grizz's bench, I don't think a top 5 finish is possible for this squad.

Nailed it.

huskerdu · Post #277 » by **huskerdu** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 2:51 am

JesusChrist13 wrote:Grizzlies are like a devoted highschool team. they can never be predicted. I say they'll move on to the second round. I wish they would play the spurs on round one (spurs would lose that series no doubt) but that seems tough atm now that Grizz may end up with the sixth seed.

The Spurs will be healthy and have HCA. They'd take out the Grizz in five. Having said that, I'm sure nobody wants to see them in round 1.

NashtyNas · Post #278 » by **NashtyNas** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:34 am

The SuperFreak wrote:
RipCityLives wrote:Or better. Check out, they have 3 all star caliber players IMO. Zbo (all star this season), Marc Gasol (potential all star this season) and Rudy Gay franchise player and underrated SF. Good PG rotation in Mike Conley and Jamaal Tinsley. OJ Mayo is a good SG. And they added toughness and experience in Tony Allen. Their frontcourt Randolph-Gasol was the top rebounder in the league. What do you think about the Grizz??? I really think they can be a big surprise this season.

They didn't make the playoffs last year and they only added Tony Allen, Xavier Henry, and Grevis Vasquez. Am I missing something?

For some reason, I don't see the teams biggest addition being discussed: Shane Battier. Add in the fact that losing Thabeet is addition by subtraction, and they do look pretty good.

mid-post · Post #279 » by **mid-post** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:35 am

sd1306 wrote:
The SuperFreak wrote:
RipCityLives wrote:Or better. Check out, they have 3 all star caliber players IMO. Zbo (all star this season), Marc Gasol (potential all star this season) and Rudy Gay franchise player and underrated SF. Good PG rotation in Mike Conley and Jamaal Tinsley. OJ Mayo is a good SG. And they added toughness and experience in Tony Allen. Their frontcourt Randolph-Gasol was the top rebounder in the league. What do you think about the Grizz??? I really think they can be a big surprise this season.

They didn't make the playoffs last year and they only added Tony Allen, Xavier Henry, and Grevis Vasquez. Am I missing something?

For some reason, I don't see the teams biggest addition being discussed: Shane Battier. Add in the fact that losing Thabeet is addition by subtraction, and they do look pretty good.

That quote was months before the Grizz added Shane. This thread is pretty old.

Studemire1 · Post #280 » by **Studemire1** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:54 am

jefe wrote:From Page 6

jefe wrote:Top 5 is certainly pushing it and won't happen barring significant injuries within the WC or a significant midseason trade by the Grizz; however, I think 7 or 8 is attainable.

Last year, the Grizz finished 40-42. This record included a 1-8 start thanks to Canswer, a skid at the end of the year due to Marc Gasol's injury (missed the final 13 games of the season IIRC), and a non-existent bench (I don't where to find the stat, but the Grizz starters scored the largest % of their team's points in the NBA - i.e. we had the least productive bench, relative to starters, in the league). Assuming good health, taking away the Canswer factor, and taking into account the minor improvements to the bench (Allen, Henry, Vasquez, and a healthy Arthur), I think a 7-to-9 win improvement is possible. Obviously, that would put the Grizz at 47-49 wins, which may or may not be enough to slide into the 7 or 8 spot depending on how the rest of the West shakes out. Absent significant injuries to conference foes or a significant trade to bolster the Grizz's bench, I don't think a top 5 finish is possible for this squad.

Nailed it.

Yeah seriously that's a pretty impressive prediction at that point. Spot on.

To those buying into the Grizzlies a bit too much... right now I'd probably give them credit for a top 10 team in the league (looking a little bit more into recently than throughout the entire season). However, there's no way they're top 5 in the LEAGUE right now whether you just account the past month or the entire season. Even top 5 in the West is pushing it when the Nuggets are also playing very well and the top 4 are Spurs, Lakers, Mavs, and Thunder. I wouldn't just look at a stretch in the season (even if it's mid-to-late in it) to see where a team stands. They're not bad at all, though. Good team that's somewhat near the top and are more than capable of an upset. Just don't go too crazy.