2011 Draft Prospect Thread

Marvel · Post #821 » by **Marvel** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 5:07 am

That game became unwatchable after the 1st half...**** terrible offense. Defenseive rotations were impressive, but no player, including Kemba had the skills to break it down and DOMINATE. Congrats to UConn though.

I got the ultimate sleeper coming out of this draft...he's Al Jefferson v 2.0. A bit more polished than Al was though at the age of 18, which is scary to think of i know...

He would be on the board with our 11th - 12th pick and he will be the answer to our GO TO GUY in the low post...an asset we've never had. This is of course only possible if he declares.

Elden Payton · Post #822 » by **Elden Payton** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 7:19 am

Who's your sleeper Marvel? Kanter? he won't be around with our pick whether it's 8 or 12. he's going top 5 whether he deserves to or not.

I think we need to draft Kemba with our pick & whoever falls ie,Perry Jones,Terrence Jones,Jonas V,Kawhi Leonard or Alec Burks. I can see any of these guys stock dropping for various reasons.

I did want Kawhi & Hamilton with our picks but I'm convinced Kemba has the power to make us relevant again & that for whatever reason he will be available with our pick, I would rather have Kemba than Kyrie(flame away) If not Kemba then P.Jones.

if we end up with Kemba/P.Jones & Kawhi/T.jones/Hamilton with Greg Smith,Keith benson or Jeremy Tyler in the 2nd round we would have had the best draft we've ever had combining size,experience & potential.

Elden Payton · Post #823 » by **Elden Payton** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 7:23 am

I forgot to say though that if jordan Williams falls to our pick in the second it would hard to choose between him & Benson, if John Henson comes out could you see him falling into the second? he is a great prospect, we would just need to feed him & tell him to hit the weight room & hope that he bulks up.

ohara · Post #824 » by **ohara** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 11:38 am

Seen a few mocks where John Henson fell to where our NO pick would be. Although I think he needs another year in college, I think he would be very good value at the NO pick for Charlotte. Most mocks had him going #14-#16, but now he is slipping to that #18/#19 range. As long as Kyrie and Barnes and the other underclassmen you expect to declare do in fact declare, there is a reasonable chance Henson is there for our 2nd 1st rounder. He would not be a draft for need, but rather as the best player available with such upside.

Snidely FC · Post #825 » by **Snidely FC** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 1:48 pm

fatlever wrote:this game is hardly watchable. thank god for the NBA.

I watch the games to see how the future NBA studs actually stack up. That's why watching Kentucky and Arizona and San Diego State was fun.

This game was brutal. Butler's sole NBA potential player Howard cratered himself with an atomic bomb.

Obviously Kemba's got charisma - but is he enough of a difference maker from DJ to warrant a top 10 pick? Would rather go with a long tall PG to build on Hendo TT give us length on defensive end ala OKC.

Jeremy Lamb channeled Kerry Kittles and made himself the flavor of the month. I love his length and his offensive game but would his length compensate for his thinness as a 2 guard in the NBA? Probably should stay in school.

Would rather have been watching Kentucky, NC, TX, Duke, anybody but Butler. Ugh.

Post #826 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 1:58 pm

Snidely FC wrote:Obviously Kemba's got charisma

So does TJ Ford!

ohara · Post #827 » by **ohara** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 3:21 pm

BigSlam wrote:
Snidely FC wrote:Obviously Kemba's got charisma

So does TJ Ford!

Ouch! That was really kicking Kemba in the balls there Slam. What you got against the kid? Does he kick small puppies or something? Spread a rumor he has a venereal disease before you start comparing him to TJ Ford. Civility is needed here, please!

SWedd523 · Post #828 » by **SWedd523** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 4:01 pm

I think Slam is the only one being realistic. Kemba will not be a star at the next level and his ceiling is Jason Terry or a poor man's Ben Gordon off the bench. You don't burn a top 10 pick on a 5'11" volume shooting SG. DJ is much more of a PG and he struggles. Imagine how much trouble Kemba will have.

Post #829 » by **fatlever** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 4:28 pm

based on what i saw in the tourny, i cant get excited about any of the remaining college kids. i am close to putting my support behind one of the international kids - as disappointing as they have all been over the past 5 years.

JMAC3 · Post #830 » by **JMAC3** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 4:28 pm

Marvel wrote:That game became unwatchable after the 1st half...**** terrible offense. Defenseive rotations were impressive, but no player, including Kemba had the skills to break it down and DOMINATE. Congrats to UConn though.

I got the ultimate sleeper coming out of this draft...he's Al Jefferson v 2.0. A bit more polished than Al was though at the age of 18, which is scary to think of i know...

He would be on the board with our 11th - 12th pick and he will be the answer to our GO TO GUY in the low post...an asset we've never had. This is of course only possible if he declares.

Obviously Tristian Thompson!

Post #831 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 5:05 pm

ohara wrote:
BigSlam wrote:
Snidely FC wrote:Obviously Kemba's got charisma

So does TJ Ford!

Ouch! That was really kicking Kemba in the balls there Slam. What you got against the kid? Does he kick small puppies or something? Spread a rumor he has a venereal disease before you start comparing him to TJ Ford. Civility is needed here, please!

I like the kid ohara - don't get me wrong, but I don't think he (or Knight) are as good as some people here are making them out to be. IMO there is only 1 PG in this class to seriously pump up, and he will go top 3.

Walker, to me, is like TJ with a slightly better jump shot. They both have questionable size but are very quick and very athletic. They both have that "swag" that we need - but they both don't know their limitations and can sometimes hurt their team more than they help it.

Same with Knight. He reminds me of Jennings in that you just shake your head at some of the choices he makes on the floor. They can take the WORST shots - but people remember the occasional big one that he hits. But what about the 18 he missed before that big one?

At least Knight has some good size though I guess.

Either way, Irving is obviously a potential franchise changing PG. I don't think the others are.

Post #832 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 5:07 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
Marvel wrote:That game became unwatchable after the 1st half...**** terrible offense. Defenseive rotations were impressive, but no player, including Kemba had the skills to break it down and DOMINATE. Congrats to UConn though.

I got the ultimate sleeper coming out of this draft...he's Al Jefferson v 2.0. A bit more polished than Al was though at the age of 18, which is scary to think of i know...

He would be on the board with our 11th - 12th pick and he will be the answer to our GO TO GUY in the low post...an asset we've never had. This is of course only possible if he declares.

Obviously Tristian Thompson!

Jordan Williams

ohara · Post #833 » by **ohara** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 5:35 pm

I just hope that somehow, someway, Kanter slips to us at #10. I would just crap myself with joy like a 2 year old baby! I know it's a longshot, but hey, I gotta hope.

Snidely FC · Post #834 » by **Snidely FC** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 5:38 pm

BigSlam wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
Marvel wrote:That game became unwatchable after the 1st half...**** terrible offense. Defenseive rotations were impressive, but no player, including Kemba had the skills to break it down and DOMINATE. Congrats to UConn though.

I got the ultimate sleeper coming out of this draft...he's Al Jefferson v 2.0. A bit more polished than Al was though at the age of 18, which is scary to think of i know...

He would be on the board with our 11th - 12th pick and he will be the answer to our GO TO GUY in the low post...an asset we've never had. This is of course only possible if he declares.

Obviously Tristian Thompson!

Jordan Williams

Both Thompson & Williams are 20. Only 18 yr old bigs I find on the board are Jonas Valanciunas and . . . Bismack Biyombo . . . who has suddenly rocketed up to #16 on ESPNs board (ahead of Zeller, Hamilton, Faried).

So who the heck is Biyombo? Here's some footage of him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmndi2b-G5s Live legs and looong arms, supposedly 9'3" standing reach and 7'7" wingspan at 6'9". Plays in the spanish ACB which after last night's NCAA game may not be a bad thing

Post #835 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 7:17 pm

Snidely FC wrote:Both Thompson & Williams are 20.

Ya, but they were 18 at one stage - so you can still compare them when they were 18 to Al when he was 18!!

Marvel · Post #836 » by **Marvel** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 9:03 pm

Obviously Tristian Thompson!

No.

Jordan Williams

No. I like both those guys and they have the talent to be impact players. I still think Tristan is too raw, would be best for him to stay another year at Texas. Seen Williams play once against NC and he was solid, but the only certainty i can gauge on him, that will translate to the NBA is his reboounding.

It's not Kanter, he's not a sleeper to me.

So who the heck is Biyombo?

He's my ultimate sleeper. :wink:

Post #837 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 10:45 pm

Marvel wrote:
So who the heck is Biyombo?

He's my ultimate sleeper.

Are you suggesting that Bismack Biyombo has a more refined offensive post game at the same stage of his career as Al Jefferson had??

ohara · Post #838 » by **ohara** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 11:25 pm

BigSlam wrote:
Marvel wrote:
So who the heck is Biyombo?

He's my ultimate sleeper.

Are you suggesting that Bismack Biyombo has a more refined offensive post game at the same stage of his career as Al Jefferson had??

OMG! I am having flashbacks! I recall another Center who was young and started to fly up the charts from Draft Camp up to the Draft. We took him. Ajinca. Please God, not again! Anyone but another Ajinca! Please dont let our FO do it again!

Post #839 » by **Diop** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 11:39 pm

I saw a few clips of that Bismack before and I never saw him take a jump shot, pretty much all dunks.

He reminded me of a smaller Nene, but he needs a lot of work.

Marvel · Post #840 » by **Marvel** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 11:57 pm

Are you suggesting that Bismack Biyombo has a more refined offensive post game at the same stage of his career as Al Jefferson had??

Yeap.

OMG! I am having flashbacks! I recall another Center who was young and started to fly up the charts from Draft Camp up to the Draft. We took him. Ajinca. Please God, not again! Anyone but another Ajinca! Please dont let our FO do it again!

He's nowhere near as bad as Lexy. Call him what you want, but this kid has the tools to be great in the NBA.