Time to look at this summer

[Sharcm1]

Well the season is all but over for the nets. Time to look at what the nets need to do this summer.

I think we are set with the point and center positions. If it is possible to trade brook for Howard this summer then I say go for it but most likely that's not happening. So williams and Brook are set.

Hump we need to re-sign. This in my mind is a must. He is a very good pf and a very good rebounder and I think his offense will get better next season with a full season with dwill.

So williams, hump and brook are set at the pg, pf and c.

Now we need to fill in the sf and sg positions. Morrow is a good player but maybe off the bench instead. Now I'm torn between trying to upgrade now and have a good season next season and just dumping as much salary as possible to be under the cap enough to sign Howard the year after. This is a tough one

The nets need to improve. So I say try to sign jason richardson and caron butler in the off season. Both are unrestricted free agents and both I think can help our team right away. With dwill, jrich, butler, hump and lopez as the starting five, that is a team that can really compete in the east. I think jrich and dwill together would be very fun to watch.

The only down side is that we would have to sign them long term and sign them to big contracts. But we could turn around and trade butler and lopez for howard, if he decides to leave the magic.

Now in the draft we should take jujuan johnson with the lakers pick if he still there. An athletic, long big man that can shoot and score a little inside, blocks shots and rebounds. Perfect fit to back up hump off the bench next season and to play next to brook and dwill.

Second round pick we should take the best center there is. we would be set at the back up point with farmar, the back up 2 with morrow, the back up 3 with james and the back up 4 with johnson. we would just need a back up center.

this would be a young, athletic, run and gun team like before. Dwill, jrich, butler, hump and lopez with farmar, morrow, james, johnson and filler at center off the bench. Now if we can't get rid of outlaw and petro then we could fill petro in at the back up center and outlaw after james and johnson. Butler would be the oldest player on the team at 31. Jrich next at 30. Everyone else would be in their 20s.

Or we could sign no one, including hump and sasha and try to clear as much cap space as possible to try to hit the howard lottery. I think its a long shot. I know that would keep Dwill but he might just stay anyway if the nets are competitive and the new cba is horrible for new contracts. The problem with signing no one and dumping salary if we don't get howard we will lose Dwill for sure. So it's a gamble.

Personally I think the nets will push hard for Howard this summer and next summer.

[Rockice_8]

No way they don't make moves this offseason. This team needs to improve now, not wait on some pipe dream that may never come true (Howard).

They still however need to keep him in mind while making moves. Since I do think he will become available next season.

I like Mayo and Chandler for the 2/3 and resigning Hump/Wright. That gives us good players who are still young and improving. I think we could land Chandler (5/40mil) and make a move for Mayo maybe a resigned Wright (2/4mil) and a 1st (LAL) or James/1st since I think they are looking for a young big (they were gonna get McRoberts and a 1st).

Buy a late first and use our second rounder on 2 athletic bigs (Noguire/Johnson) and hope they pan out.

[Netaman]

this summer there are 2 goals. 1 - Keep cap flexibility 2 - Get more good players

it's really that simple.

The draft is up first. Dumping Petro and strategically acquiring assets is the priority. There's less then a 10% we get more then a role player for 2011/12 out of the draft so it's all about value. Coming out of the draft I wouldn't expect much more then an exciting summer league roster and a little more $ to spend in FA. Maybe we get lucky and MEM decides they want to save some money to put towards Gasol/ZBo and they dump Mayo.

Next up is the CBA. Hopefully there's an amnesty clause and a franchise player tag. Ok, I'll settle for 1 out of 2.

After that it's time to shop for some wings. No obvious names out there in FA but then again Wes Matthews wasn't so obvious 12 months ago either.

Billy King better have his talent evaluator hat on this Summer.

[l3ulls3y3]

Priority #1 - Get rid of Outlaw's contract.

If Billy King can get rid of Outlaw's contract, he is the best GM in the NBA.

Nah but if we do, we can be big players in 2012 with a lot of cap flexibility and 3 set starters in DWill, Kris and Brook.

Oh, and dump Petro's contract too.

[Rockice_8]

Priority #1 - Get rid of Outlaw's contract.

If Billy King can get rid of Outlaw's contract, he is the best GM in the NBA.

Nah but if we do, we can be big players in 2012 with a lot of cap flexibility and 3 set starters in DWill, Kris and Brook.

Oh, and dump Petro's contract too.

Hell if he can dump Petro I'll be happy. If he dumps Outlaw I'll **** my pants.

[ChampionRed]

Outlaw and a plethora of picks would be my offer. If anyone bites, do it.

[NyCeEvO]

Priority #1 should be getting good players on the Nets ASAP.
Priority #2 should be getting rid of Outlaw and Petro.

While I don't think it would be too hard to get Petro off the team, I don't think anyone would come within 100 miles of Outlaw's contract and be interested in taking him off of our hands. It'll be extremely hard to get him traded.

Going after Chandler, trading for Mayo, and re-signing Hump for a reasonable contract would turn us into a playoff team.

This lineup should be enough to make the playoffs as a 6th seed:
D-Will
Mayo
W.Chandler
Hump
Lopez
+ (Bench: Morrow, etc.)

[ChampionRed]

I would even be ok with King offering something like Outlaw + Farmar + James + 1st round 2011 pick. Just get rid out Outlaw.

[l3ulls3y3]

We have a better shot at getting rid of Petro than Outlaw, or any other sub on our team except for maybe Farmar.

7 Footers are pretty hard to come by, and are always traded around the deadline / in the summer just for their height. Teams like a big body.

[N Ireland Nets]

We can get rid of Petro easily enough, just give $3million along with him and it makes him quite an attractive option to some teams in need of a big man. Farmar could be moved as well because lets be honest D WIll will be eating all the minutes so there is no need to be paying the money Farmar is getting for a few minutes a night.

Outlaw is the real problem. Which team would you offer the below deal to?:

I would even be ok with King offering something like Outlaw + Farmar + James + 1st round 2011 pick. Just get rid out Outlaw.

I'd do nearly anything to clear Outlaws contract, it's the single biggest problem we have with our team right now. Could you imagine having that contract back and adding it to the cap space this offseason.....heaven.

My main targets in the offseason would be Mayo and Chandler.

I only really started to take notice of Chandler this season. He has been just average plodding along but this season he has taken a big jump forward and seems to keep adding feathers to his cap each season. For his age if we could get him on a good contract I think he would be our starting SF for a long time.

He would be my main target this offseason (outside going for Howard). Chandler is everything we were looking for in Outlaw, could you imagine handing Chandler Outlaws contract and just making Outlaw disappear haha. Man that would put us in such a strong position but alas.

Think also about how D Will will improve anyone we bring in also. Can't wait for some quality to be brought in during the off season.

Obviously we're all in on D12 but at the minimum this offseason I'd look to sign Chandler as a FA. Offer a resigned Wright plus a 1st rounder for OJ Mayo and get rid of Farmar and Petro. If we can get rid of Outlaw I'll eat my own face.

A starting line up of:

D Will/Gaines
OJ Mayo/Morrow
W Chandler/James/Outlaw
Hump/
Lopez/

Fill out the rest of the spots with draft picks and or veterans. It's a young team but has a ton of upside and each player (apart from Outlaw) has real value if or when Howard becomes available. Then if we were lucky enough to trade for D12, something like Lopez Hump James and picks (that offer would be hard to beat) we'd need to bring in a PF but that would have the makings of a very solid young team with big upside. All it would take is a few veterans to fill out the roster. Remember if we were to sign Howard we would be an ideal landing spot for veterans chasing rings and filling out the roster wouldn't be a problem.

But realistically I think the Howard situation is going to drag on exactly as the Melo drama went. So it will come to a point during the off season where we have to decide what we're doing because we could pick up nothing special and watch D-Will walk away from us then it's back to the lottery every year for a long time.

Massive offseason for us and one I'm really nervous about. I just prey Billy King has his head switched on right and we make some good moves to push us forward into Brooklyn.

[NyCeEvO]

^^You perfected my post lol. Good job.

[N Ireland Nets]

^^You perfected my post lol. Good job.

Haha yeh I wrote it for the avery/young thread then realised it sat better in here. Only problem was it looks like I stole your plan now haha.

The more I think about it the more I can't believe we're giving Outlaw $7 million.

Wish I could jump in the delorean and go back in time. Did I mention I hate outlaw?

[Rockice_8]

Priority #1 should be getting good players on the Nets ASAP.
Priority #2 should be getting rid of Outlaw and Petro.

While I don't think it would be too hard to get Petro off the team, I don't think anyone would come within 100 miles of Outlaw's contract and be interested in taking him off of our hands. It'll be extremely hard to get him traded.

Going after Chandler, trading for Mayo, and re-signing Hump for a reasonable contract would turn us into a playoff team.

This lineup should be enough to make the playoffs as a 6th seed:
D-Will
Mayo
W.Chandler
Hump
Lopez
+ (Bench: Morrow, etc.)

I see me and you are on the same page here. I've been calling for Chandler for almost a year now ever since I thought NY was going to release him to make room for Melo. I also am a big fan of Mayo for the right price. He can be a 17-18 ppg game player with solid D. He's put those numbers up before and with D-Will and a change of scenery should be just fine getting back to those numbers. That team above should be just fine playing for a 4-6 seed.

The players we signed/traded for (Mayo/Chandler) also are valuable pieces since they are young and talented should Dwight become available. We should still look to buy a pick to add young talent to our bench. Plus BK has a knack for finding solid talent late in the draft so an extra pick could land us a solid rotation player (Go big, big, big).

[Revolutionistt]

We can get rid of Petro easily enough, just give $3million along with him and it makes him quite an attractive option to some teams in need of a big man. Farmar could be moved as well because lets be honest D WIll will be eating all the minutes so there is no need to be paying the money Farmar is getting for a few minutes a night.

Outlaw is the real problem. Which team would you offer the below deal to?:

I would even be ok with King offering something like Outlaw + Farmar + James + 1st round 2011 pick. Just get rid out Outlaw.

I'd do nearly anything to clear Outlaws contract, it's the single biggest problem we have with our team right now. Could you imagine having that contract back and adding it to the cap space this offseason.....heaven.

My main targets in the offseason would be Mayo and Chandler.

I only really started to take notice of Chandler this season. He has been just average plodding along but this season he has taken a big jump forward and seems to keep adding feathers to his cap each season. For his age if we could get him on a good contract I think he would be our starting SF for a long time.

He would be my main target this offseason (outside going for Howard). Chandler is everything we were looking for in Outlaw, could you imagine handing Chandler Outlaws contract and just making Outlaw disappear haha. Man that would put us in such a strong position but alas.

Think also about how D Will will improve anyone we bring in also. Can't wait for some quality to be brought in during the off season.

Obviously we're all in on D12 but at the minimum this offseason I'd look to sign Chandler as a FA. Offer a resigned Wright plus a 1st rounder for OJ Mayo and get rid of Farmar and Petro. If we can get rid of Outlaw I'll eat my own face.

A starting line up of:

D Will/Gaines
OJ Mayo/Morrow
W Chandler/James/Outlaw
Hump/
Lopez/

Fill out the rest of the spots with draft picks and or veterans. It's a young team but has a ton of upside and each player (apart from Outlaw) has real value if or when Howard becomes available. Then if we were lucky enough to trade for D12, something like Lopez Hump James and picks (that offer would be hard to beat) we'd need to bring in a PF but that would have the makings of a very solid young team with big upside. All it would take is a few veterans to fill out the roster. Remember if we were to sign Howard we would be an ideal landing spot for veterans chasing rings and filling out the roster wouldn't be a problem.

But realistically I think the Howard situation is going to drag on exactly as the Melo drama went. So it will come to a point during the off season where we have to decide what we're doing because we could pick up nothing special and watch D-Will walk away from us then it's back to the lottery every year for a long time.

Massive offseason for us and one I'm really nervous about. I just prey Billy King has his head switched on right and we make some good moves to push us forward into Brooklyn.

If the Nets can move Outlaw that would be great, but who would the money go to instead? This years free agent class isnt spectacular and we will have more than enough to sign whoever we want without worrying about dumping Outlaws 7 mil. And Im not holding any hopes that the Nets will get Howard as a free agent. He is not going to sign with the Nets, ESPECIALLY if they dont improve this summer and get Williams to sign an extension. The Nets need to go all out this summer with trading for better players. I like Mayo and Chandler but thats nothing compared to the teams out there that Williams could sign with. Hump is not the answer as a starting PF, he needs to be coming off the bench. The only spots set for next year is PG and C. And are you really in North Ireland? I was in Belfast for a day during St. Patricks weekend for a day trip from Dublin. Pretty nice city.

[SteveNets15]

^^^I agree that the NETS need to sign some players that can start in the NBA.Right now we have a solid bench with Farmar,Gaines,Morrow,Outlaw,Petro and a re-signed Humps but we only have two starters D-WILL and Brook.Now i won't be upset if Humps is our starting pf as long as we bring in some quality wing players.I would also like the Nets to dump Petro and sign Kristic to a similar contract if possible he'd be a better backup for Brook.

[NyCeEvO]

The Nets need to go all out this summer with trading for better players. I like Mayo and Chandler but thats nothing compared to the teams out there that Williams could sign with. Hump is not the answer as a starting PF, he needs to be coming off the bench.

I think we all agree with you on the first part. The main problem is that we don't have enough quality players that can be included in trades. The most that BK can do to change that problem is to package our current and future draft picks for more players, which would be interesting. Mayo and Chandler are good pieces that we have a realistic chance of acquiring from our current position. Post-draft, we'll know whether BK was able to do any deals on draft night and we'll have a better picture of what FA goals and expectations are. But for now, we're kinda blind to what the reality will be for us in a few months.

[N Ireland Nets]

And are you really in North Ireland? I was in Belfast for a day during St. Patricks weekend for a day trip from Dublin. Pretty nice city.

Yeh I'm born and raised in Northern Ireland 

Live 30minutes from Belfast in a port town called Larne. Hopefully moving to the states very soon though.

(sorry to go off topic)

[crazykidd2k6]

I can't believe nobody has mentioned trying to get Stuckey. The guy is only 24 and still has the potential to be a star. He is also a good slasher, not afraid to go drive in the paint, and very explosive. Which is basically what we lack. I think he will fis A lot better in the shooting guard position where he doesn't have to make that much decision and plays off the ball. I think that way his FG% will rise. Something like a poor man's DWade. Also detroit just benched him. He shouldn't be expensive maybe Outlaw's contract the most.

[Jersey Generals]

He's restricted, that's probably why no one has mentioned him.

[8 Mile Ilic]

I never saw star potential in Stuckey to be honest... I'm also not sure if I want him playing SG full-time, he really is a player who is stuck between positions.

His inability to hit the three really hurts his effectiveness...