Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread

[freshie2]

I think you get a little more back for Iguodala than the package for Wallace or what you would get for Granger. Probably best to hold him for now, and maybe you can get a team like Sacramento to give up a draft pick and player as you approach the draft...still think he has to be part of the rebuilding by the assets you can acquire for him, but they are fully invested in this playoff run and trading him for little return made no sense.

We are rebuilding now....we have 7 of our top 9 players 24 or younger...5 of those 7 22 or younger...you really can't get much younger and if you do without any veterans that can actually put on a uniform and still play you have the Clippers, the T'Wolves and the Kings....

In 2 weeks when the 76ers overtake the Knicks, maybe you'll understand then....

I understand, but I also understand the need pieces to be serious contenders moving forward (next season...trade deadline passed this year). Yes, they don't want to be much younger, but if Iguodala returns a young big (Thompson) and a top 5 pick (even in this draft) it may ultimately get them closer to a championship than keeping him. Ultimately, they have decisions to make, and it may lead to them taking back some younger big men who give them a more competitive/long lineup that is playoff ready.

[Lapinski]

That would be a good trade....but the teams interested in Iguodala would probably be teams like the Lakers (replace Artest), the Knicks (get someone who can actually defend), Miami, etc...which don't have young bigs like Thompson and the 5th pick in the draft.

Stefanski has said you need another team be willing to send you something in return for one of your players that could actually help the team....that is where the hangup is...teams that have young players and high draft picks are not usually looking for a veteran....they are in that "tank and get your superstar in the draft" mode....which to me is more often a vicious circle worse than mediocrity...and that is being woeful.

[Foshan]

^ I agree, but again, I think teams like Sac (especially), is a team that has gotten some serious talent in the draft, both with 'potential' #1 talent/star power (Evans/Cousins) but also equally as high bust potential. The last thing they need is another overly talented yet under developed player from this draft to run along side them (unless maybe its Irving). If Sac doesn't get the #1, I see them as a very good option for looking to make very rapid improvement. (Min too).

[HartfordWhalers]

Iguodala getting some mention for his defense...

It's simply gotten to the point that, no matter how far you've jumped off Orlando's bandwagon, Howard has separated from every other defender in the league. That includes standout individuals like Milwaukee's Andrew Bogut, Philadelphia's Andre Iguodala and Dallas' Tyson Chandler ... and even the Boston tag team of Kevin Garnett and Rajon Rondo.

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page ... ter-awards

[freshie2]

Yes...there are only a few teams that would seem to have the young talent 'we' (fans) think is enough to land Iguodala. Who knows how it plays out, but I picture Sacramento, Minnesota, and I think OKC as teams that could use his talent, absorb the contract, and have enough young players/draft picks to make a deal work. Of course, if Howard became available, Iguodala could be in that package as well.

For now, we just enjoy the playoff run, and hopefully some success when they reach round 1, but Iguodala's location/team will again be an issue next year.

[Luigi]

Jazz fan here. Jazz and 76ers have a history of trade cooperation, and Iguodala would complete Utah's roster beautifully in a trade this summer. I'm not sure exactly what you all are looking for, so I thought I'd ask about your interest in a few Jazz players still on the roster for next year:

Devin Harris. He's relatively cheap for what he brings to a team, and Utah could part with him to fix the shooting guard problems we have.
Paul Millsap. With Favors and Jefferson, we could part with him. Right now, we have an absolutely bruising front line with him in a three man rotation, but his trade value seems very high to me. He's underpaid (Portland forced us to front load his contract), and he's tough enough to play for Philly.
CJ Miles. I know you have Young and Turner, so you may not need Miles, but he's young and has a decent contract for a sg/sf.
Gordon Hayward. He's looking a ton better lately, hitting his shots and not hesitating. If you must have him, we could move him, but he's worth a lot to a lot of Jazz fans.
Jeremy Evans. A second round steal. He jumps very well, and blocks shots. He's skinny and young, so he's a tweener (SF/PF) for now.

What are your thoughts about the usefulness of each of these players for your team? Would any of these guys be very useful in your rotation or address your team needs moving into a rebuild phase?

[The Guilty Party]

We really have no need for Harris, Miles, or Hayward because we already have young talent at their positions. Millsap is interesting but trading Iguodala for him makes no sense unless Brand is being sent out in another deal.

Honestly, I don't know that a deal could be done straight-up between the Jazz and Sixers. My guess is that if Iguodala were to somehow land there, it would have to be in a three-team deal in which the Sixers are getting either a stud SG or C in return.

[Luigi]

I see. Thanks for the feedback.

So how do you think things will shake out with Meeks, Holiday, Williams, Meeks, and Turner? I don't really know about their natural positions, but that's a lot of guys with potential. Same for Thad Young, is he moving up to the 4?

[The Guilty Party]

Holiday is the PG now and for the future. Wlliams will continue to play out his role of 6th man. Meeks is currently a starter but I don't think he'll be there beyond this season which brings us to Turner. Doug Collins seems think he should be playing the 1 or the 3 but not the 2 at this point. Turner is going to work with a shooting coach this summer and so I imagine the plan will be to see how he does with that. If his shot improves, maybe the Sixers start Holiday, Turner, and Iguodala. If not, then perhaps Evan comes off of the bench next year or Iguodala is dealt.

[WassaWassa]

Jazz fan here. Jazz and 76ers have a history of trade cooperation, and Iguodala would complete Utah's roster beautifully in a trade this summer. I'm not sure exactly what you all are looking for, so I thought I'd ask about your interest in a few Jazz players still on the roster for next year:

Devin Harris. He's relatively cheap for what he brings to a team, and Utah could part with him to fix the shooting guard problems we have.
Paul Millsap. With Favors and Jefferson, we could part with him. Right now, we have an absolutely bruising front line with him in a three man rotation, but his trade value seems very high to me. He's underpaid (Portland forced us to front load his contract), and he's tough enough to play for Philly.
CJ Miles. I know you have Young and Turner, so you may not need Miles, but he's young and has a decent contract for a sg/sf.
Gordon Hayward. He's looking a ton better lately, hitting his shots and not hesitating. If you must have him, we could move him, but he's worth a lot to a lot of Jazz fans.
Jeremy Evans. A second round steal. He jumps very well, and blocks shots. He's skinny and young, so he's a tweener (SF/PF) for now.

What are your thoughts about the usefulness of each of these players for your team? Would any of these guys be very useful in your rotation or address your team needs moving into a rebuild phase?

Millsap would be a nice fit and a straight up swap for Iggy would be pretty fair for both teams IMO. One question, why doesn't he rebound better?

[Luigi]

Millsap would be a nice fit and a straight up swap for Iggy would be pretty fair for both teams IMO. One question, why doesn't he rebound better?

He was once an elite rebounder. Part of that came from him never getting plays called for him. All he would do is crash the boards on offense. Now he's shooting the ball on offense, and tired or less focused on the defensive glass. But even with his new role, he's still a very tough rebounder that doesn't rely on physical gifts to secure the ball.

Millsap's contract is very good for him, and taking on Iguodala's deal might make it seem even. I don't know how Utah would manage to take on those extra millions in salary, though.

[roma258]

Millsap is tempting, but I see him as a younger version of Brand. Their skills don't really compliment each other and we're stuck with Brand for another few years (not that I especially mind, he's been excellent this year). Other than that, maybe Hayward in a package that brings us a center, but that's about it as far as the Jazz roster is concerned.

[Kobblehead]

Jazz fan here. Jazz and 76ers have a history of trade cooperation, and Iguodala would complete Utah's roster beautifully in a trade this summer. I'm not sure exactly what you all are looking for, so I thought I'd ask about your interest in a few Jazz players still on the roster for next year:

Devin Harris. He's relatively cheap for what he brings to a team, and Utah could part with him to fix the shooting guard problems we have.
Paul Millsap. With Favors and Jefferson, we could part with him. Right now, we have an absolutely bruising front line with him in a three man rotation, but his trade value seems very high to me. He's underpaid (Portland forced us to front load his contract), and he's tough enough to play for Philly.
CJ Miles. I know you have Young and Turner, so you may not need Miles, but he's young and has a decent contract for a sg/sf.
Gordon Hayward. He's looking a ton better lately, hitting his shots and not hesitating. If you must have him, we could move him, but he's worth a lot to a lot of Jazz fans.
Jeremy Evans. A second round steal. He jumps very well, and blocks shots. He's skinny and young, so he's a tweener (SF/PF) for now.

What are your thoughts about the usefulness of each of these players for your team? Would any of these guys be very useful in your rotation or address your team needs moving into a rebuild phase?

These are all good players but...none of them would be worth moving Iguodala for. Andre is the unquestioned best defender in the league this year by a large margin. He also a major force rebounding the ball and stabilizing our offense.

The only player I would consider losing Dre for would be Al Jefferson and even that is a stretch. Jefferson and Hayward for Andre and a second. I doubt that seems fair to Jazz fans but to Sixers fans, losing what Dre brings night in and night out for anything less wouldn't be fair either.

[Luigi]

Thanks for all the useful feedback. Considering your team needs, a third team would probably help the most.

But without a third team, I guess Utah might still be able to get you some prospects at center:
-Fesenko will be a free agent, but he could do a sign and trade. He's not much, but he's the biggest thing in the league not named Shaq, and he's only 24.

-We've also got rights to Ante Tomic. He's still playing for Real Madrid, but he's a long center (7'2") with post moves, and he's not a stiff. He's another young big with real potential.

-Donatas Moteijunas. If we end up with the 12th pick, he might be around there. He's 20 years old, and he's a 7 footer. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Donatas-Motiejunas-1300/

-Enes Kanter, if we end up with the 6th pick from NJ. Or one of the other big man prospects in this draft. Picks 2 through 6 this year are looking like PF/Cs. Right now, NJ is looking like the 6th pick, and so does Kanter. That would be a true center with the most secure upside. He's only 18 right now. Check him out: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Enes-Kanter-5168/

I'm not sure that Utah's management would go for this--we're also rebuilding, and we're proud of our youth movement and multiple draft picks coming up here--but I'm a big fan on Iguodala, so I'd go for it.


Would Paul Millsap, CJ Miles, and Enes Kanter look better for Iguodala?

[WassaWassa]

Thanks for all the useful feedback. Considering your team needs, a third team would probably help the most.

Would Paul Millsap, CJ Miles, and Enes Kanter look better for Iguodala?

I would consider that a fantastic return for Iggy. More than likely your gm and fanbase would think that is too much to give up. We would likely have to include our pick and probably more to make that a fair swap.

Like you have pointed out, Millsap is inked to a GREAT deal and is a bargain for the numbers he is putting up. He wouldn't be an ideal fit next to Brand but Millsap is 26 and would be a much better fit as a long term solution. We could make due with both for 2 years until Brand's contract runs out or even deal Brand (finally possible) considering he doesn't fit the long term plans.

Iggy is playing great and I am glad we didn't move him just to move him and get the garage return that the Bobcats got for Wallace but I do believe that at some point we have to choose between Iggy and Turner. With the surplus of young power forwards and picks I think Utah would be a great trading partner.

[Kobblehead]

What's the intrigue of Iguodala from Utah's perspective? They're going through a youth movement without an established head coach. It doesn't make sense to give up young building blocks/picks for a player like Andre. If Sloan were to return, that would be one thing.

[WassaWassa]

What's the intrigue of Iguodala from Utah's perspective? They're going through a youth movement without an established head coach. It doesn't make sense to give up young building blocks/picks for a player like Andre. If Sloan were to return, that would be one thing.

Agree 100% from a Jazz fan perspective. Why give up good picks and young talent to aquire win now players when you have no legit chance to win anything significant?

As a 6er fan I hope they make that mistake of not wanting to bottom out. The same mistake that has buried us in mediocrity for years. I have to believe that Luigi would be in the minority of Jazz fans pushing for a trade like this. It would be nice if their GM was as intent on getting Iggy as he is but i don't see it happening.

I don't see them giving up lottery picks for Iggy but they have a log jam at pf now like we do at wing. An Iggy for Millsap swap (both 26 years old) would be the only thing I see making any sense for the Jazz.

[Luigi]

I wouldn't call Iguodala for Millsap and a pick a win-now kind of move. Building around him and Jefferson into the next three years would make a very nice core. We'd still have Favors and Hayward to develop, and we could focus on getting the right players to fit in around Jefferson, Iguodala, Harris, Favors, and Hayward.

You may be right about me being in the minority, but a lot of Jazz fans are obsessed with the shooting guard position. Every since Hornacek retired, we've been looking for one we like. I've always been more interested in a good front court, but now that we have one I can believe in with Favors and Jefferson, I'd be ecstatic to get a defensively minded 2 that can score when you need him to. Either way, thanks for all the useful response, I'm rather impressed with the 76ers board.

[SJSF]

Millsap for Iggy is a good deal. We have no depth at PF. And Brand certainly could use another big man next to him that can rebound and defend. Or i would try and get Favors for Iggy. This team is very thin at PF/C. And if Brand goes down with an injury this team is done.

[Kobblehead]

We might as well have this on the front page for the summer.