2011 Draft Prospect Thread

Post #921 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:28 pm

Merged with the prospects thread.

Post #922 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:41 pm

What do you guys think of these comparisons?

Kyrie Irving: Chris Paul on Valium
Derrick Williams: A much higher BBIQ Hakim Warrick
Perry Jones III: Austin Daye
Brandon Knight: Brandon Jennings
Alec Burks: Kevin Martin
Terrence Jones: Andray Blatche with work ethic
Kemba Walker: TJ Ford with a slightly better jump shot.
Tristan Thompson: Ed Davis
Jordan Williams: Carlos Boozer
David Lighty: Larry Hughes
Harrison Barnes: Paul Pierce
Jared Sullinger: DeMarcus Cousins but with a good head on his shoulders
Kendall Marshall: Jason Kidd
John Henson: A higher BBIQ Chris Andersen
Renardo Sidney: Eddy Curry
Dee Bost: Brandon Jennings
Jordan Hamilton: Danny Granger

ohara · Post #923 » by **ohara** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:16 pm

Derrick Williams will be much better than Warrick

Kemba Walker will be a lot better than TJ Ford. I think he will be more like a poor mans Iverson, in his prime.

Not so sure John Henson has a higher BBIQ than Anderson. At least not yet.

Post #924 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:20 pm

Biyombo says he's 18, but as Sports Illustrated's Ian Thomsen wrote over the weekend, NBA scouts and executives aren't 100 percent sure, and Biyombo wouldn't talk about it when asked.

"Question of the week here!," a team scouting director texted Sunday night. "No way to know for sure. I'm guessing he's 21 or 22."

If that's the case, it won't be a big deal and Biyombo will go in the first round for sure. But an Eastern Conference GM said he heard rumors that Biyombo was anywhere from 23 to 26, which would obviously be a much different deal. He'd be much more likely to become an undrafted free agent than a Draft pick, and with the uncertainty surrounding labor, who can say for sure how -- and how much -- free agents would be signed and would get paid.

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/d ... ef:nbahpt1

Post #925 » by **fatlever** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:30 pm

26? LOL. cant we cut off one of his toes and count the rings?

Fred Williamson · Post #926 » by **Fred Williamson** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:49 pm

told y'all.

Marvel · Post #927 » by **Marvel** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:06 pm

Dang....WTF, what....he doesn't have a frickin passport, birth certificate? LEGAL documentation confirming his age? I hope he's 21-22 not 26.....that would be a letdown. How do you pull wool over the whole worlds eyes like that.

LOL at the comparisons...Derrick Williams - A more composed, focussed, fully loaded clip Josh Smith, with a better perimeter game.

Kemba Walker >>>>>> TJ

Badd_Intentions · Post #928 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:14 pm

I am starting to take a liking to Hamilton. Would be nice to have another legit deep threat on the floor. I also like the Granger comparison.

Not seeing the Kemba Walker TJ ford comparison. TJ is much more of a pure PG, I see more Kemba to Ben Gordon than Kemba to TJ Ford.

countryboi · Post #929 » by **countryboi** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:57 pm

Marvel wrote:Dang....WTF, what....he doesn't have a frickin passport, birth certificate? LEGAL documentation confirming his age? I hope he's 21-22 not 26.....that would be a letdown. How do you pull wool over the whole worlds eyes like that.

LOL at the comparisons...Derrick Williams - A more composed, focussed, fully loaded clip Josh Smith, with a better perimeter game.

Kemba Walker >>>>>> TJ

a lot of these developing countries dont keep proper birth records.... Mutombo is at least 187 years old

amcoolio · Post #930 » by **amcoolio** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:28 pm

Even if he was 26 teams would be stupid not to select him in the first round. D. Blair has a 32 year old body and look how many teams are regretting that decision.

Picking at 20 is a total crapshoot and if you can get a player that can help right away like Biyombo at 20 or later then you always take that opportunity

JMAC3 · Post #931 » by **JMAC3** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:46 pm

I though it would be fun to do my player comparisons and see how they stacked next to yours.

Kyrie Irving: Jameer Nelson/Chris Paul
Derrick Williams: Richard Jefferson/Josh Smith
Perry Jones III: Michael Beasley/Austin Daye
Brandon Knight: Gilbert Arenas
Alec Burks: Brandon Roy
Terrence Jones: Marvin Williams
Kemba Walker: Monta Ellis
Tristan Thompson: J.J. Hickson
Jordan Williams: Reggie Evans
David Lighty: Shane Battier/Dahtay Jones
Harrison Barnes: Joe Johnson/Danny Granger
Jared Sullinger: Zach Randolph
Kendall Marshall: Jose Calderon
John Henson: Ed Davis/Jared Jeffries
Renardo Sidney: Eddy Curry
Dee Bost: Kenyon Dooling
Jordan Hamilton: Luol Deng

Marvel · Post #932 » by **Marvel** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:10 am

I'm just thinking about his development years. Developing at 18 > developing at 26. I'd still draft him, no doubt.

Badd_Intentions · Post #933 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:44 am

JMAC3 wrote:I though it would be fun to do my player comparisons and see how they stacked next to yours.

Kyrie Irving: Jameer Nelson/Chris Paul
Derrick Williams: Richard Jefferson/Josh Smith
Perry Jones III: Michael Beasley/Austin Daye
Brandon Knight: Gilbert Arenas
Alec Burks: Brandon Roy
Terrence Jones: Marvin Williams
Kemba Walker: Monta Ellis
Tristan Thompson: J.J. Hickson
Jordan Williams: Reggie Evans
David Lighty: Shane Battier/Dahtay Jones
Harrison Barnes: Joe Johnson/Danny Granger
Jared Sullinger: Zach Randolph
Kendall Marshall: Jose Calderon
John Henson: Ed Davis/Jared Jeffries
Renardo Sidney: Eddy Curry
Dee Bost: Kenyon Dooling
Jordan Hamilton: Luol Deng

I like these, the only ones I question are Jordan Williams, right now he is light years ahead of Evans as far as scoring and he is a true C. I'd compare him to a poor mans Al Jefferson(right down to the baby fat lol)

As for Derrick Williams, he is tough to draw comparisons. I'd say a cross between Lamar Odom and Jeff Green b/c he's such a mismatch b/c he can score inside and out. His ball handling is not near Odom's though.

GQCoolest · Post #934 » by **GQCoolest** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:26 am

Here are my comparisons for some of these guys:

Kyrie Irving: Kenny Anderson
Derrick Williams: Shawn Marion (with much better shot form)
Perry Jones III: Thaddeus Young
Brandon Knight: Mo Williams
Alec Burks: John Salmons
Terrence Jones: Wilson Chandler
Kemba Walker: Damon Stoudamire
Tristan Thompson: Chris Wilcox
Jordan Williams: Kris Humphries
David Lighty: Dorrell Wright
Harrison Barnes: Danny Manning
Jared Sullinger: Antonio McDyess
Kendall Marshall: Andre Miller
John Henson: Andre Kirilenko (minus 3 point range)
Renardo Sidney: Robert Traylor
Dee Bost: Antonio Daniels
Jordan Hamilton: Desmond Mason

penquin11 · Post #935 » by **penquin11** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:28 pm

Kyrie Irving: CP3
Derrick Williams: Grant Hill (in his better days) or a David West - Marion Mix.
Perry Jones III: Anthony Randolph
Brandon Knight: Mo Williams
Alec Burks: Joe Johnson or Rip Hamilton
Terrence Jones: Marvin Williams(Hawks)
Kemba Walker: Tim Hardway
Tristan Thompson: Chris Wilcox
Jordan Williams: I have no clue XD
David Lighty: Dorrell Wright
Harrison Barnes: Paul Pierce
Jared Sullinger: Glen Davis
Kendall Marshall: Jose Calderon (But better) or even Kyle Lowry
Renardo Sidney: Eddy Curry (but worse)
Dee Bost: Antonio Daniels
Jordan Hamilton: John Salmons

SamBone · Post #936 » by **SamBone** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:58 pm

Kyrie Irving: Chris Paul
Derrick Williams: David West
Perry Jones III: Kevin Garnett (at best) or Anthony Randolph (at worst)
Brandon Knight: Darren Collison
Alec Burks: Brandon Roy / Rip Hamilton combo
Terrence Jones: Jeff Green
Kemba Walker: Monta Ellis
Jordan Williams: Jason Williams (nets)/ Sean May (healthy)
Harrison Barnes: Rudy Gay
Kendall Marshall: Andre Miller
John Henson: Ed Davis
Renardo Sidney: Eddy Curry

Post #937 » by **BigSlam** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:14 am

I'm starting to put my 2011 mock together and I forecast that if we draft at #9 we could easily have a choice of Kanter, Terrence Jones or Kwahi.

ohara · Post #938 » by **ohara** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:26 am

BigSlam wrote:I'm starting to put my 2011 mock together and I forecast that if we draft at #9 we could easily have a choice of Kanter, Terrence Jones or Kwahi.

From those 3, my preference would be Kanter, then Kwahi, then Jones. Jones has lots of talent, but all year long people wondered why his motor sometimes doesn't run like it should. If he did not stay motivated in college, will he stay motivated in the NBA?

hotrod · Post #939 » by **hotrod** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:11 pm

Saw Mugsy Bogues at the game last night and he had Biyombo with him. The guy looks really young in the face. i suppose he is here for the Jordan Classic.

Badd_Intentions · Post #940 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:08 pm

ohara wrote:
BigSlam wrote:I'm starting to put my 2011 mock together and I forecast that if we draft at #9 we could easily have a choice of Kanter, Terrence Jones or Kwahi.

From those 3, my preference would be Kanter, then Kwahi, then Jones. Jones has lots of talent, but all year long people wondered why his motor sometimes doesn't run like it should. If he did not stay motivated in college, will he stay motivated in the NBA?

Agreed, Kanter is a bigger body, plus if a guy doesn't seem motivated in what is basically his audition for the NBA, what happens when he has a few mil in his pocket already and has to play in almost 3 times as many games and the games are longer and more physically demanding??