2010-11 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread

[Rapsobsessed7]

This seems too simple for someone to not have already suggested it.

1) Barbosa for Milicic + Flynn

2) Bargnani + Calderon for Pachulia + M. Williams

3) Draft D. Williams

4) Sign one of Marc Gasol or DeAndre Jordan

5) Re-Sign Weems & Evans as back-ups

PG: Bayless/Flynn
SG: DeRozan/Weems
SF: D.Williams/M.Williams/Johnson/Klieza
PF: Davis/Johnson/Evans
C: Gasol or Jordan/Milicic/Pachulia/Alabi

They can't shoot, but shooters can be found on the cheap as we fill in the gaps.

so we have Pachulia as a 3rd string C? I dont think that works, its too clogged. Klezia making 4.6 as the 4th SF. Too many players IMO. I want Steph Curry on this team somehow, someway.

[Silk Wilkes]

I know it's clogged up at SF & C but we just have to collect assets and trade liabilities. We break down Bargs and Calderon's deals and replace them with defensive or young guys.

[ballislife]

If we win the lottery... draft Kyrie Irving and trade both Bargnani and Bayless to the Kings for their 5th pick (if Kanter's still available) and Garcia for veteran leadership.

Sacramento gets a PF to pair with Cousins to space the floor and compliment him well. They also get a young PG with the ability to score and play off of Tyreke Evans. We add some leadership in Garcia and hopefully (if Kanter shows well in workouts) get a nice young C who can score down low and rebound the ball - giving us a nice front court rotation with Amir coming off the bench as the first big man filling in both PF/C spots.

Irving/Calderon
DeRozan/Barbosa
Johnson (or a FA like Green or Chandler)/Kleiza/Garcia
Davis/Johnson
Kanter/Ajinca/Alabi

Nice young and balanced team with a lot of talent and potential to grow together and make a very good team for years to come.

[Gold Dragon]

Toronto gets James Posey + Brandon Rush + Indy 2011 1st
Indy gets Bargs

Hibbert
Hansbrough/Bargs
Granger
George/DJones/Stephenson
Collison/Price


Sign and trade DeAndre Jordan (10.5 million x 4yrs) for Alabi (0.8) + Posey (7.6 expiring) + future lottery protected 1st

Kaman/Alabi
Griffin/Smith/Diogu/Cook
Aminu/Gomes/Posey
Gordon/Foye/Warren
Bledsoe/Williams



draft Harrison Barnes and Bismack Biyombo
resign Dorsey and Weems


Jordan/Biyombo
Ed/Amir/Dorsey
Barnes/JJohnson/Kleiza
DeRozan/Barbosa/Weems/Rush
Bayless/Calderon


BC works his magic to offload Kleiza to a team with a TPE or capspace

[bboyskinnylegs]

^^ yeah, I like that. Although getting DeAndre (or any other free agent C) is no sure thing. And of course Barnes (or Williams/Jones) may be gone as well when we draft. If Kanter or Val is the BPA, we could start them and also have Biyombo backing them up, which could potentially be even better (we'd continue to roll with JJ as a glue-guy at SF...hopefully he can improve his jumper). That's a very solid young frontcourt with great two-way potential imo.

[Rapsobsessed7]

This IMO is what its going to take to grab Curry away from GSW.

To TOR: Curry + Biedrins + Bell (absorbed through TE)
To GSW: Barbosa + Bayless + #3

Raptors get their young PG whos a nice fit beside Derozan with his shooting, yes you give up a lot but Curry is what we need and hes a young PG that outside of Irving IMO is the best option.

Warriors save 18 million next 2 years, save 5.6 million instantly and 23 million overall , Barbosa helps add the scoring lost by Curry, get a young PG in bayless whos thriving when he has the ability to start and gets the #3 pick in the draft.

Steph Curry / Jose Calderon / Charlie Bell
Demar Derozan / Sonny Weems
James Johnson / Linas Klezia / FA
Ed Davis / Amir Johnson / PF (minimum)
Andrea Bargnani / Andres Biedrins / Solomon Alabi

is a playoff team next year easily.

i would try to deal Jose for a more defensive minded PG (ideally someone like Hinrich who can guard the 2 spot as well and play with Curry but i doubt ATL does that) or maybe you do a smaller swap to save money of Beno + Taylor/Calderon swap, Beno is better on defense then Jose. Or maybe for Andre Miller and you cut him and sign someone. Or you just keep him and next summer deal him. Not that bad of a team IMO. It needs depth on the wings but i like the team.

[Silk Wilkes]

I'd rather build a defensive squad that have Steph Curry's pylon defense at the top of the key feeding into Bargnani. YUCK! Stick with JBay and the pick (especially if it turns out to be Irving, Kanter or Williams). Steph Curry's offense is overrating him now and the last thing we need is to get back on the treadmill.

[Rapsobsessed7]

I'd rather build a defensive squad that have Steph Curry's pylon defense at the top of the key feeding into Bargnani. YUCK! Stick with JBay and the pick (especially if it turns out to be Irving, Kanter or Williams). Steph Curry's offense is overrating him now and the last thing we need is to get back on the treadmill.

well assuming it isnt Irving because thats the only way id do something like that. IDEALLY, we keep Bayless and they take Jose

Calderon + Barbosa + #3 for Biedrins + Curry + Bell

but i think they would need something more. Calderon has one year less than Biedrins.

Curry / Bayless
Derozan / Weems
Johnson / Klezia
Davis / Johnson
Bargnani / Biedrins

is a pretty nice core, add a SF in next years draft and your set. That defense is improved too, getting rid of Jose letting Bayless play the 6th man role (i think thats his role in the future). Weems is so much better at guarding SGs than SFs.

[Silk Wilkes]

I just think if you get Curry there absolutely has to be a follow-up deal to get rid of Bargnani. You just can't be successful defensively with both your point guard and centre being terrible defensively.

[Rapsobsessed7]

I just think if you get Curry there absolutely has to be a follow-up deal to get rid of Bargnani. You just can't be successful defensively with both your point guard and centre being terrible defensively.

Currys only 23 though and has time to get better defensively. He has the speed and instincts to do it i think its more of their style, no one really plays D. Hes also better than Calderon currently. Even if we suck that would be the ideal situation because we can draft Gilchrist who looks like a defensive stud to me and that lineup would be pretty nice. Of course id deal Bargnani i dont see BC doing it and from his history he loves PGs so i wouldnt be surprised to see it happen.

[Silk Wilkes]

Don't get me wrong, I like Steph Curry. I just want to get rid of Bargnani before anything else. I don't think we're ever going anywhere special with him on this team.

[sweetcity]

Toronto gets James Posey + Brandon Rush + Indy 2011 1st
Indy gets Bargs

Hibbert
Hansbrough/Bargs
Granger
George/DJones/Stephenson
Collison/Price


Sign and trade DeAndre Jordan (10.5 million x 4yrs) for Alabi (0.8) + Posey (7.6 expiring) + future lottery protected 1st

Kaman/Alabi
Griffin/Smith/Diogu/Cook
Aminu/Gomes/Posey
Gordon/Foye/Warren
Bledsoe/Williams



draft Harrison Barnes and Bismack Biyombo
resign Dorsey and Weems


Jordan/Biyombo
Ed/Amir/Dorsey
Barnes/JJohnson/Kleiza
DeRozan/Barbosa/Weems/Rush
Bayless/Calderon


BC works his magic to offload Kleiza to a team with a TPE or capspace
Gold Dragon
Sophomore

This is one of the better trades I've seen posted on here, nice work, although Biyombo wont go until late first round I think... could maybe package Bayless, Indi's pick or Rush and trade down and get him and add another vet to backup at C

[Rapsobsessed7]

*assuming we dont move up and we end up drafting Kanter (Barnes doesnt declare)

To TOR: Diop + Jennings + Delfino (waived) + Temple
To CHA: Maggette
To MIL: Calderon + Bargnani

Raps get a young PG whos best friends with Derozan and allow Kanter to play C.

CHA gets Maggette for the useless Diop

Milwaukee gets #9(T.Jones)/Bargnani/Bogut front court and a Calderon/Salmons back court which allows them to compete for the playoffs next year.

then

To TOR: Marvin Williams + Zaza Pachulia
To ATL: Leandro Barbosa + Linas Klezia

ATL saves money in this deal while replacing Crawford with Barbosa who can play both PG/SG just like him and would look to draft someone to replace Zaza.

Final Raptors Roster:

Jennings / Bayless / Temple
Derozan / Weems / SG (3 point shooter)
Williams / Johnson
Davis / Amir / Diop
Kanter / Pachulia / Alabi

[flatjacket1]

A realistic trade that makes sense.

Toronto Sends:
Jose Calderon
Cash

Toronto Receives:
Pekovic
Avery Bradley
2011 First Round Pick (BOS)
2011 Second Round Pick (BOS)

****** Toronto accomplishes its goal by
i. Freeing up the PG position for potential draftee/Bayless
ii. Reducing the payroll by 3.3M
iii. Acquiring picks for future
iv. Acquiring a prospect that is undervalued by Boston, similar to JJ deal.

___________________________

Boston Sends:
Avery Bradley
2011 First round pick
2011 Second round pick
Jermaine O'Neal

Boston Receives:
Jose Calderon
Cash (TOR)

******Boston accomplishes its goal by
i. Dealing a prospect and player with a relatively small role for a top 20 PG to back up Rondo
ii. Allows Boston to acquire cash to offset the gain in salary

______________________________
Minnesota Sends:
Pekovic

Minnesota Receives:
Jermaine O'Neal

****** Minnesota accomplishes its goal by
i. Freeing up long term cap space (J.O has 1 year left vs Pek's 2)
ii. A gain in talent

[Rapsobsessed7]

A realistic trade that makes sense.

Toronto Sends:
Jose Calderon
Cash

Toronto Receives:
Pekovic
Avery Bradley
2011 First Round Pick (BOS)
2011 Second Round Pick (BOS)

****** Toronto accomplishes its goal by
i. Freeing up the PG position for potential draftee/Bayless
ii. Reducing the payroll by 3.3M
iii. Acquiring picks for future
iv. Acquiring a prospect that is undervalued by Boston, similar to JJ deal.

___________________________

Boston Sends:
Avery Bradley
2011 First round pick
2011 Second round pick
Jermaine O'Neal

Boston Receives:
Jose Calderon
Cash (TOR)

******Boston accomplishes its goal by
i. Dealing a prospect and player with a relatively small role for a top 20 PG to back up Rondo
ii. Allows Boston to acquire cash to offset the gain in salary

______________________________
Minnesota Sends:
Pekovic

Minnesota Receives:
Jermaine O'Neal

****** Minnesota accomplishes its goal by
i. Freeing up long term cap space (J.O has 1 year left vs Pek's 2)
ii. A gain in talent

why would Boston take Joses salary when green needs an extension + their short on bigs so trading JO doesnt make sense and Rondo is the PG.

[flatjacket1]

why would Boston take Joses salary when green needs an extension + their short on bigs so trading JO doesnt make sense and Rondo is the PG.

I said we add cash. Only 3 million (Maximum allowed) but it reduces Calderon's contract to 17M/2 years. His playmaking ability off the bench as well as the capacity to start if Rondo is (oft) injured. He can play the 2, and is a decent defensive player. There is no question they get the better player (Jose > J.O)

The Celtics currently sport the 4th highest payroll in the NBA at $83,330,756. You don't think they'd spend another 8.5 to improve their team? Considering KG and Ray Allen are off the books (30M+) at the end of next season, they still possess affordability.

Short on bigs?
Nenad Krstic
Shaquille O'Neal
Kevin Garnett
Glen Davis
Troy Murphy
Jeff Green (SF/PF)

They seem quite deep to me

[Rapsobsessed7]

Shaq & KG are the only ones signed for next season.

[Rapsfan07]

A realistic trade that makes sense.

Toronto Sends:
Jose Calderon
Cash

Toronto Receives:
Pekovic
Avery Bradley
2011 First Round Pick (BOS)
2011 Second Round Pick (BOS)

****** Toronto accomplishes its goal by
i. Freeing up the PG position for potential draftee/Bayless
ii. Reducing the payroll by 3.3M
iii. Acquiring picks for future
iv. Acquiring a prospect that is undervalued by Boston, similar to JJ deal.

___________________________

Boston Sends:
Avery Bradley
2011 First round pick
2011 Second round pick
Jermaine O'Neal

Boston Receives:
Jose Calderon
Cash (TOR)

******Boston accomplishes its goal by
i. Dealing a prospect and player with a relatively small role for a top 20 PG to back up Rondo
ii. Allows Boston to acquire cash to offset the gain in salary

______________________________
Minnesota Sends:
Pekovic

Minnesota Receives:
Jermaine O'Neal

****** Minnesota accomplishes its goal by
i. Freeing up long term cap space (J.O has 1 year left vs Pek's 2)
ii. A gain in talent

Man I like this deal for T.O but there is no way on God's green earth that the Celtics do this one. With Rondo playing the way he does in the minutes he does, I don't see them taking on Calderon. Plus they're coughing up TWO picks? That a pretty high price. Also, I personally don't like Avery Bradley for the simple reason that he seems like a undersized SG. I admit not seeing much of him though and I'm very willing to be corrected. However, I think a deal of some sort can be worked out between Toronto and Boston. I'd do something like:

Amir Johnson + James Johnson/Linas Kleiza for Jeff Green

Don't know if Boston likes it though.

[Gymbo]

Hello guys. Cavs fan here. I've got a hare-brained scheme to try to get the first three picks in the lottery. Lets assume you guys end up with the 2nd/3rd pick, would you do this deal?

Three Way Trade with Toronto and Washingon

Cleveland trades: Antawn Jamison, Ramon Sessions, J.J. Hickson, Christian Eyenga, and 2011 first (LAC)
Cleveland obtains: Rashard Lewis, Amir Johnson*, 2011 first (WAS), and 2011 first (TOR)

Toronto trades: Amir Johnson*, James Johnson, and 2011 first
Toronto obtains: J.J. Hickson, Christian Eyenga, and 2011 first (LAC via CLE)

Washington trades: Rashard Lewis and 2011 first
Washington obtains: Antawn Jamison, Ramon Sessions, and James Johnson

*If you guys prefer Amir Johnson over Linas Kleiza, the two could be interchanged - I'm not sure who is preferred by fans/the Raps organization. I figured since Amir Johnson makes more money, you'd want to dump him.

I think this is a pretty good deal for you guys. You move down 5-6 spots (the Clippers' pick is probably going to be 8th) and pick up Hickson and Eyenga in exchange for presumably an overpaid Amir Johnson and a young player that hasn't been with the team long.

Thoughts?

[ty123]

^^No. We're not trading our first rounder and Amir.