Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 7

Post #341 » by **5DOM** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:46 pm

He's widely considered to be a top 3-5 pick. He's not underrated at all. In fact, I think this board is probably the one that overrates him the most.

Dr Positivity · Post #342 » by **Dr Positivity** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:47 pm

I like the comparison too for style of play. Just that he could easily be a Deng in style who's Pietrus/Barnes in impact, if that makes sense

Post #343 » by **Alfred** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:51 pm

I merged the Derrick Williams declaring thread with the draft thread.

Basketball_Jones · Post #344 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:01 pm

Everyone will be reaching with their picks. If it's not a top 3, I don't want BC (or whoever) to reach for Kemba or Knight or....Donatas. Dear god, trade down and get the guy you want at the same time.

bboyskinnylegs · Post #345 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:20 pm

truthrising wrote:imo i'd rather invest in a defensive Center LONG TERM, not any stop gap solution by signing a FA big - we've gone through before and where did that lead us? If the scouting reports turn out to be truth about Kanter than we should take a shot a develop him since those are a lot harder to come by. We shall see how the workouts turn out for Kanter but from what I hear - John Calipari has given some high praises for his rebounding fundementals, he smoked Nazr Mohamed during workouts. Looks a like player who's strong and agile for his size, something we've lacked for a long time.

I agree, that's why if we are trying for an FA C I'd much rather target a DeAndre/Gasol rather than a guy like Chandler... it's better getting a younger guy that already looks solid that can continue to develop with our young talent. Unfortunately, other teams will be thinking the same thing, and they are both RFAs that will probably get matched. And sadly, we don't have the luxury of knowing who we can land in free agency before the draft.

At this stage in Chandler's career, he's more likely to want to be in a contending situation though, so I wouldn't see him coming here unless it was ridiculously overpaying (and even then, Cuban will probably do that anyways).

fredericklove · Post #346 » by **fredericklove** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:55 pm

I hope we get 1st pick, get KI. Somehow miraculously net us another late lottery pick in return from bargnani trade. Sign Marc Gasol, draft Terrence Jones and develop him slowly.

C: Gasol
PF: Davis
SF: Jones
SG: Derozan
PG: Irving

That's a playoff team for sure.

JamesNaismith · Post #347 » by **JamesNaismith** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:35 pm

I hope we draft Williams or Barnes, trade for Rubio (say Amir, if they draft Kyrie whats the point plus they would have a solid back PF for a few years) and sign DeAndre....that''s a dream off season.

Rubio/Bayless/Calderon
DeRozan/Barbosa
Barnes/JJ/Kleiza
Davis/Bargnani/Evans
Jordan/Bargnani/Alabi

Ohhh hell yeah! lol

yayotube · Post #348 » by **yayotube** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:39 pm

My draft board is just like most of you guys with Irving, Williams, Barnes, Kanter. But damn, if we get the 3rd pick and take Kanter, it just might mean Bargs is shipped out that much faster. I know it's inevitable but the urgency that comes from drafting a C this summer would just confirm the moment we've all been waiting for is near.

fredericklove · Post #349 » by **fredericklove** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:48 pm

yayotube wrote:My draft board is just like most of you guys with Irving, Williams, Barnes, Kanter. But damn, if we get the 3rd pick and take Kanter, it just might mean Bargs is shipped out that much faster. I know it's inevitable but the urgency that comes from drafting a C this summer would just confirm the moment we've all been waiting for is near.

eneskanter wrote:"I do things that are more complicated than offense, I rebound like there's no tomorrow and play rough defense in the paint"

TheRealDeal · Post #350 » by **TheRealDeal** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:56 pm

I hope Barnes changes his mind. A week ago his Mother supposedly leaked to an Iowa reporter that he planned on staying, but a lot can change in a week. If he plans on staying I'd expect him to announce it before or during the banquet tonight. Apparently he just told a member of the media that there's no timetable for his decision so if we don't hear anything by tonight then I might start getting my hopes up. I always felt that he would return to UNC but he's looking at being picked top 3. Who knows but I'm glad he proved the haters wrong in the 2nd half of the season.

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Prestige · Post #351 » by **Prestige** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:07 pm

chadfordinsider Chad Ford
Sources say Wolves, Cavs, Raptors, Jazz and Kings would all take Kyrie Irving 1. Wizards, Pistons & Bucks - Barnes or Derrick Williams

chadfordinsider Chad Ford
Another self-serving move by NCAA RT @ESPN_CollHoops: NCAA approves change on withdrawal from NBA draft http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/sto ... ps_6349956

TheRealDeal · Post #352 » by **TheRealDeal** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:13 pm

pipe dream scenario if we end up #3

1. Detroit Pistons/Milwaukee Bucks- Derrick Williams
2. Washington Wizards- Enes Kanter (after crazy good workouts & hype)
3. Toronto Raptors- Kyrie Irving

God Squad · Post #353 » by **God Squad** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:16 pm

^^^^ how far do you expect the cavs/wolves to fall?

TheRealDeal · Post #354 » by **TheRealDeal** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:23 pm

spade57 wrote:^^^^ how far do you expect the cavs/wolves to fall?

out of the top 3 obv

fredericklove · Post #355 » by **fredericklove** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:26 pm

PRESTIGE wrote:
chadfordinsider Chad Ford
Sources say Wolves, Cavs, Raptors, Jazz and Kings would all take Kyrie Irving 1. Wizards, Pistons & Bucks - Barnes or Derrick Williams

Piston doesn't want Irving? That's weird. I was hoping Thorton would solidify his SG spot to have Tyreke as PG...if they take Irving so prolly move Tyreke to SF?

I expect the Wolves to pick Irving too because of their uncertainty with Rubio and they don't really need HB or DWill in the lineup.

bboyskinnylegs · Post #356 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:41 pm

if the Bucks pass on Irving to keep Jennings

And good for the Wolves. Kahn will probably get made fun of for taking another PG, but this one would be the right decision imo.

fredericklove · Post #357 » by **fredericklove** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:45 pm

bboyskinnylegs wrote::lol: if the Bucks pass on Irving to keep Jennings

Just like how we pasted on Iggy because we needed to keep VC. If Bucks get a tenth pick in the draft, would it be a good idea to trade Bargnani for that pick and some of their worse contracts in return?

EZA23 · Post #358 » by **EZA23** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:47 pm

There's an article on ESPN about every lottery teams needs for the draft. Could someone who's an insider please post this?

Thanks

Consequence · Post #359 » by **Consequence** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:52 pm

fredericklove wrote:
bboyskinnylegs wrote::lol: if the Bucks pass on Irving to keep Jennings

Just like how we pasted on Iggy because we needed to keep VC. If Bucks get a tenth pick in the draft, would it be a good idea to trade Bargnani for that pick and some of their worse contracts in return?

Not sure if you saw this, since it was inthe offseason thread, but I proposed this and most people seemed to like it:
TOR out: Bargs, Alabi
TOR in: Najera, Diop, MIL 1st

MIL out: Maggette, 1st
MIL in: Bargs, Alabi

CHA out: Najera, Diop
CHA in: Maggette

Rather have two scrubs that won't complain about not being played than someone like Maggette who would expect minutes.

Truthrising · Post #360 » by **Truthrising** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:54 pm

fredericklove wrote:
bboyskinnylegs wrote::lol: if the Bucks pass on Irving to keep Jennings

Just like how we pasted on Iggy because we needed to keep VC. If Bucks get a tenth pick in the draft, would it be a good idea to trade Bargnani for that pick and some of their worse contracts in return?

I'd rather have a top ten pick for the 2012 draft (it'll be stacked) for Bargs and hopefully we can tank harder next yr and we'll be guaranteed 2 good prospect to build upon following season afterwards. 3 prospects to develop along w/ Davis and Demar. :pray: