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Post#1 » by crazykidd2k6 » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:02 pm

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/netsblog/ ... &FEEDNAME=

Wow, this is great news. If he signs an extension this summer, we can can finally relax on adding non championship types of players just to prove we can win.

Now, all we need to worry about is Dwight. Yet, it won't be so hard adding him because we are building this team having our PG and C as our best players. We have Brook so its a good thing.

Now, our main priority is to get rid of Outlaw's contract.
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Post#2 » by NyCeEvO » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:21 pm

I've also heard reports that BK and D-Will text each other frequently and BK is helping find places to live.

Yes, those reports are encouraging. I do believe that Deron is genuine when he says that he likes the organization. We're basically asking him to design the team. D-Will is the GM for this upcoming season. Also, with Proky's "global vision" and D-Will's desire to play in a big market, I'm positive that he really wants to stay.

This would also mean that D-Will will want to do everything within his power to get FAs to come to the Nets. I'm sure that FAs would like to have an incentive to sign here because they wouldn't want to sign a long term deal here only to see D-Will walk out the door next offseason.

Do I believe D-Will wants to stay? Yes, mainly because of our FO (i.e. Proky) and our future move to Brooklyn.
Do I believe it's a guarantee? No, because we still have a lot of work to do to bring it to a level that is at least competitive.
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Post#3 » by Jersey Generals » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:08 pm

Well, hopefully that will prevent King from signing just anyone to use the cap space.
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Post#4 » by NyCeEvO » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:30 pm

Jersey Generals wrote:Well, hopefully that will prevent King from signing just anyone to use the cap space.

Nah, he'd be a fool to do so. Every player that is signed this offseason will almost certainly have been ok'd by D-Will. What's the point of bringing in players to surround the guy, who BK sees as the 'best PG in the game', if he doesn't want to play with them? We have to give D-Will every reason to re-sign since we gave up Favors + this year's pick to get him. I can't say I'm 100% certain of this but it just seems logical that they'd consult D-Will a lot.
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Post#5 » by DarkXaero » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:44 pm

Read the quotes today. Definitely very encouraging stuff and positive for Nets fans. The quotes make it almost certain that he's going to stay, unless Nets FO completely fails this off season.

Also glad to hear that he doesn't want to drag the team through the uncertainty of extension/free agency drama.
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Post#6 » by Preludepunk27 » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:54 pm

I think the new CBA is going to make a lot of players more inclined to sign extensions.

With that said, I truly think D-Will is impressed on everything we are trying to do for him. In Utah, there were some rumors that he wanted to have more of a say in front office moves and such. It sounds like D-Will, BK and AJ are kind of like a 3-headed monster.

If D-Will signs an extension, I think it'll be relatively late in the offseason after we emptied all our bullets. We put the team he and management collectively wanted on the floor opening night (sans D-Howard possibly) and I say Deron signs on the line.

Just with everything he's said, he seems extremely impressed with the organization.
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Post#7 » by N Ireland Nets » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:01 pm

Going by D-Will's comments I think he realises he needs to commit to the Nets and sign an extension or no sought after free agent would dare sign. I mean why sign when the best player isn't even certain of staying.

I think D Will realises the effort and how badly the Nets want to make him the "man" even giving him the option of which players he would like to play with. The 1st bit of business I would do as soon as the CBA is agreed is get D Will's extension sorted. Then we don't have to force any signings to try and make a team that Deron would be happy with to get him to sign before the 2012 FA.

It would just remove any real pressure to make decisions and signings that could end up as bad as Outlaws contract. With Deron signing an extension first thing after a new CBA we could in theory go all out for Howard and keep the cap room free because lets be honest there isn't much in regards game changers available in free agency this off season. At worst we could sign a few cheap wings to come in and play who we could keep or use as trade bait as their stats would improve drastically playing with D Will. A player like Morrow who will look every bit the shooter we signed him to be will have a much higher value with inflated stats from D Will assists.

This is the best thing that could happen to us in the offseason. We could focus on somehow trying to move Outlaws contract and look to make the superstar splash for Howard.

Great 1st day of the offseason for us so far :D
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Post#8 » by NyCeEvO » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:12 pm

As we've all been saying, he's an official article about it:
D'Alessandro: With Deron Williams on board, Nets trying to build a winner
Published: Thursday, April 14, 2011, 5:00 AM Updated: Thursday, April 14, 2011, 11:38 AM
Dave D'Alessandro/Star-Ledger Columnist

You may have read a while back that Deron Williams — apparently eager to surpass his monthly quota of stress dreams and brain cramps — spends a fair amount of time playing Amateur General Manager.

There’s nothing complicated about it: The point guard pokes at his cell phone, calls or texts Billy King, and lets the Nets’ real GM know what he likes or doesn’t like about such-and-such a player.

Sometimes they meet in person for such discussions — there was a “long and productive” sit-down in London last month, then another a few weeks later in D.C. — but King usually comes away with the same feeling: The new guy sounds more invested in the Nets’ future all the time.

“We’ll have a really good talk (about personnel), and then he’ll text me to follow up, or ask about another guy’s contract situation,” King said Wednesday, as he wandered the corridors of United Center in Chicago, where the Nets concluded their season Wednesday night.

“Lately we talk more about his wrist, and finding a place for him to live. But he’ll call or text. No, it’s never like, ‘I want this guy or I’m outta here.’ It’s more about staying on the same page.”

There’s nothing unique about this, of course. King already has a perfect sounding board in the objective and savvy Bobby Marks (assistant GM), but D-Will’s influence is worth noting because, as King says, “he is very interested in every plan we’re putting in place.”

So much that the presiding GM is going to make very sure that his franchise guy is with him on every move?

“Oh, yeah,” King replied. “It would be foolish on my part to make any decision and then have him say, ‘That guy you brought in — I don’t really like him.’ So Avery (Johnson) and I have a good feeling for Deron’s likes and dislikes.”

So now we get to watch how the point guard’s predilection — his whims and his deep thoughts and miscalculations — play out on paper.

And, as the background music, the Nets hope Williams remains just as invested every day until July 18, 2012, the first day he can sign a contract extension.

For now, we know this much: They may have just gone 24-58, but the Nets proved they can compete with anybody as long as Williams has two healthy wrists.

We also know the endgame — it’s about having a Deron Williams/Dwight Howard foundation heading into Brooklyn. There’s a dual sales job to be done before that can happen, of course: Sell the point guard on staying, sell Superman on moving north in the summer of 2012.

So this summer, they build the Bridge to Dwight.

It will be challenging. Agent Dan Fegan, vulpine genius, probably will squeeze King for 3/30 or 4/36 for Humphries — because a $9 million-$10 million average for a double-double guy isn’t so far-fetched. It seems unlikely the Nets will ever go that high for a one-year wonder (Jamie Feick
flashbacks, anyone?), even if Hump was their MVP this season.

So one task for King and Co. may be to find a cost-effective alternative at the power forward, someone who won’t clog the cap in 2012. The second job is to find a pair of fleet-footed wing-walkers for Williams.

Sure, you may deride the plan, but if you don’t think King can pull it off, maybe you’ve forgotten what’s happened in the past 12 months.

Exactly one year ago, the Nets were resting in a 12-70 ditch; Rod Thorn was plotting his exit strategy; the coach’s office was vacant; they had grown used to playing in front of a yawning chorus of 2,000 people in East Rutherford; their most promising building block was a misfit named Terrence Williams; they were resting most of their summer hopes on John Wall and LeBron James; the Board of Governors had yet to approve of an ownership transfer; there were still condos on Pacific Street standing in the arena footprint in Flatbush, and most of us had long concluded that — oh, dear diary — the last spark of divinity had been extinguished forever.

Now, at least they are on the verge of being interesting.

The mandate for the 2010-11 season was to acquire a franchise player, grow the young guys, and have a bankroll of $18 million-$21 million for each of the next two summers, as they do now.

For lack of a more thoughtful homily, we offer this: Mission accomplished.

The final year in Jersey might actually be worth watching, if King reshuffles the deck as skillfully as he did this year. That’s more than you would have expected a year ago. And if the present ascent results in a playoff berth next season, you can credit the Nets’ personnel experts. All of them.

This article has a lot of important information in it.

1) Like I said before, D-Will is basically our new GM for this offseason.
2) For anyone who thought Hump is getting about $5 mill, your dreams have probably been smashed. S9-10 million per season? Not for me! I didn't know that his agent was Dan Fegan. In the world of NBA agents, there are 5-6 big agents that are known for getting their players paid: Arn Tellem,
Jeff Schwartz, Dan Fegan, Rob Pelinka, Mark Bartelstein, Leon Rose, and Bill Duffy. Unfortunately, for us we're about to get into negotiations with one of them. But as the article suggets, if Hump is really going to ask for that much, we need to find a cheaper replacement.

3) We need to invite D-Will to join us at RealGm.com to help him out lol! Anyone have his email address or phone number?

Btw, I love the part of the article that says:
"We’ll have a really good talk (about personnel), and then he’ll text me to follow up, or ask about another guy’s contract situation,” King said Wednesday, as he wandered the corridors of United Center in Chicago, where the Nets concluded their season Wednesday night."

We know exactly who they're referring to! D-Will is asking BK, "when is Outlaw's deal done", BK says, "4 more seasons", and D-Will then proceeds to scream yell every expletive in the book. If there is any way to get Outlaw off of this team, I guarantee BK and D-Will will try to find every single way possible that makes sense.
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Post#9 » by yonexpro1 » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:12 pm

Hello Nets fans,

I am a jazz fan and although I hate dwont I will say that he is sincere when he speaks out in interviews, which by the looks of your comments is a good thing.

I have been following the nets ( hoping they lose, sorry) and as a dwill follower for his career I can tell you that he really likes sasha, morrow, hump, and brook.

I think he does like outlaw (prob because in utah we never had a sf that could consistently make jumpshots) although I have read that you fans dislike him.

I do think he would sign a new contract given that this coming year the nets FO brings in players he likes and approves of (I used to think that you guys would try to sign AK this offseason, and as soon as Dwont left I was pissed because that means Ak will not go NJ because Deron hates him)

Also if you guys can make the playoffs or finish the 9 seed that increases chances of him staying. But if you dont he is more than likely out.
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Post#10 » by 8 Mile Ilic » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:35 pm

Travis Outlaw consistently makes jumpshots at 37.5% clip =|...
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Post#11 » by NyCeEvO » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:39 pm

Yeah, don't get us started on Outlaw. The dude makes $7 million per season and his PER is a dismal 8.80. Out of the 60 SF in the entire NBA, Outlaw's PER is ranked 56th!!! This dude plays worse than most backup SFs!! GET HIM OUT!!
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Post#12 » by deepblueday » Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:26 pm

yonexpro1 wrote:I have been following the nets ( hoping they lose, sorry) and as a dwill follower for his career I can tell you that he really likes sasha, morrow, hump, and brook.


How in the name of **** could you possibly know this?
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Post#13 » by DarkXaero » Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:55 pm

I do remember D-Will hinting that he wasn't satisfied/happy with Utah FO moves (when he was a jazz player), so I think Nets making him a big part of FO future plans is a huge selling point for him. I mean, right now, he's getting possibly as much support as he can (from the FO) and they're really going all out in making sure he re-signs.

As for Hump, I really hope that it isn't 9 to 10 million per season. That would be ridiculous and if that is the price, then I don't want him back. He was great this season but he's worth no more than 7 million IMO. Very limited offensive game and his defensive presence isn't worth that price. Not to mention, this is the first year that he has played well. You shouldn't be getting 9-10 million for a good contract year season (and no prior seasons to show for).
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Post#14 » by deepblueday » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:04 am

^Agree completely. 10 million a year is a non-starter IMO, if that's the range his people are hoping for than I hope our FO doesn't even sit down and simply informs them they can look for it someplace else.

That said, back in the real world, I think Avery, King, and Deron are all 100% behind resigning Kris, and I would not be horribly surprised if we met a number that no one on this board will be happy with. Then again, I also think Kris really wants to be a Net, so that's working to our advantage.

At this point, I'm hoping for a backloaded deal in the 6-7 mil per range.
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Post#15 » by DarkXaero » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:23 am

deepblueday wrote:^Agree completely. 10 million a year is a non-starter IMO, if that's the range his people are hoping for than I hope our FO doesn't even sit down and simply informs them they can look for it someplace else.

That said, back in the real world, I think Avery, King, and Deron are all 100% behind resigning Kris, and I would not be horribly surprised if we met a number that no one on this board will be happy with. Then again, I also think Kris really wants to be a Net, so that's working to our advantage.

At this point, I'm hoping for a backloaded deal in the 6-7 mil per range.
Yea, I do think that Nets will try hard to re-sign Humphries, considering that both parties want the re-signing. And you're right, there's definitely a chance that Hump will be re-signed at a price that no fan would be really happy with. And that scares me, especially when you consider the other bad contracts (Outlaw, Petro) and how we'll need cap space going into 2012 off season.
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Post#16 » by yonexpro1 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:33 am

deepblueday wrote:
yonexpro1 wrote:I have been following the nets ( hoping they lose, sorry) and as a dwill follower for his career I can tell you that he really likes sasha, morrow, hump, and brook.


How in the name of **** could you possibly know this?


trust me the more you watch him and he starts opening up and being the leader with comfort it will be obvious who he likes.

Being that I have watched deron his whole career I know within 15 games or so who he likes and doesnt.
Me saying those names doesnt mean he dislikes everybody else so dont get that confused, its just that I can tell those are the main guys he likes.

And I understand that travis may be terrible statistically, but watching Ak everynight and watching travis. You dont know how terrible it is having a SF that cant shoot to save his life. And IDK but IMO you guys judge him harshly haha, granted I dont know his contract but he is not bad.
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Post#17 » by DarkXaero » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:40 am

^^ You clearly haven't watched Outlaw this season.
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Post#18 » by SteveNets15 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:44 am

BY STEFAN BONDY
The Nets will have plenty of cap space and will try to make a run at Dwight Howard via trade. Deron Williams has made it known he’s going to actively recruit guys. Brook Lopez, on the other hand, feels it’s best for him to stay away from free-agent targets.

“I don’t know if I’m very word-savvy,” he said. “I guess that, in itself, proves I probably shouldn’t be talking to guys.”



LOL Come on Brook just tell them about your favorite comic books. :lol:
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Post#19 » by yonexpro1 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:44 am

DarkXaero wrote:^^ You clearly haven't watched Outlaw this season.



haha i've watched damn near every game dwont has played in, and he hits some shots ( and by some I mean 4 more per game than any other jazz sf)

Then again I am not sure about outlaw ( thats why I gave him his own paragraph)
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Post#20 » by SteveNets15 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:53 am

If Outlaw was paid 4mill per and played 15-20 minutes off the bench then he'd be ok in my book.BUT Outlaw getting paid 7mill per FOR 5 YEARS and playing 30 minutes a game as a starter is not ok.He's a bench role player thats all.The FO screwed up big time and they know it..

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