Bismack Biyombo

droponov · Post #121 » by **droponov** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:46 pm

Dr Mufasa wrote:I don't see why anybody would take Valanciunas over him, at least. There's nothing JV has that makes up for the strength and athleticism advantage Biyombo has over him. If I'm taking a raw big man project, give me the one with Biyombo's tools over JV who has little tools except long arms and playing hard

Dr Mufasa wrote:I don't need to watch players to have opinions.

Makes sense.

droponov · Post #122 » by **droponov** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:51 pm

No reason to believe the rumours about Biyombo 's age. As I've said before, he comes from a very different background than the typical "athletic young african big". Even in terms of basketball. He's a guy who grew up within the game and that shows. He also doesn't look older than he is at all.

nahom1319 · Post #123 » by **nahom1319** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:03 pm

droponov wrote:
Dr Mufasa wrote:I don't see why anybody would take Valanciunas over him, at least. There's nothing JV has that makes up for the strength and athleticism advantage Biyombo has over him. If I'm taking a raw big man project, give me the one with Biyombo's tools over JV who has little tools except long arms and playing hard

Dr Mufasa wrote:I don't need to watch players to have opinions.

Makes sense.

LOL I hope thats sarcasm :lol:

, all Biyombo has is his length and playing hard. He doesn't exactly leap outta the building. JV and BB each have their merits and to discredit either without watching them play is like me judging your ability to play basketball based on your username......

(not directd at droponov)

Kirsten19 · Post #124 » by **Kirsten19** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:04 am

Valanciunas is an overrated post scorer, as a matter of fact, his offensive game isn't as good as some people here have suggested. He is a great ft shooter though, but sill raw offensively and very skinny for his height.

I think JV may end up having:

16pt, 8reb, 2 bks

Biyombo:

8pt, 12reb, 4blk

Players in NBA are a lot tougher in NBA. I don't think Valanciunas will be ready anytime soon.

bboyskinnylegs · Post #125 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:35 am

Why would Jonas be a worse rebounder than Biyombo when he's already rebounded better than Biyombo in slightly less minutes against tougher competition in the Euroleague vs. the ACB?

Jonas in 14 Euroleague games playing 14.9mpg: 7.6pts/5.4rebs/0.6bpg
Bismack in 14 ACB games playing 17mpg: 6.4ppg/5.1rpg/2.3bpg

And 4blks is absolutely ridiculous...he's a good shotblocker, but those are prime Hakeem/Kareem/Robinson/Mutombo/Eaton/Bol numbers.

Post #126 » by **tk76** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:59 am

Some more Bismack for you all:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntd4eRA-OEk&feature=related[/youtube]

BiSmacked:

Kirsten19 · Post #127 » by **Kirsten19** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:27 am

I think the Pistons will be interested in Biyombo, i doubt he'll pass the 7th in the draft

Pistons have Monroe at C, who is fundamentally sound, a 15/10 player (at the moment) and very allrounded player, i think Monroe will eventually develop into a Tim Duncan type big. I think he needs an athletic, long and defensive frontcourt partner

Biyombo has all it takes to become a great post defender and shotblocker. He, Monroe and Jonas Jerebko(who has gained 15lb during his rehab, is now a shad taller than 6'10" and 240+lb.) will form a very promising and prosperous frontcourt

droponov · Post #128 » by **droponov** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:58 pm

Kirsten19 wrote:Pistons have Monroe at C, who is fundamentally sound, a 15/10 player (at the moment) and very allrounded player, i think Monroe will eventually develop into a Tim Duncan type big.

What the heck is that?

HumphreyBogart · Post #129 » by **HumphreyBogart** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:52 am

bboyskinnylegs wrote:Why would Jonas be a worse rebounder than Biyombo when he's already rebounded better than Biyombo in slightly less minutes against tougher competition in the Euroleague vs. the ACB?

Jonas in 14 Euroleague games playing 14.9mpg: 7.6pts/5.4rebs/0.6bpg
Bismack in 14 ACB games playing 17mpg: 6.4ppg/5.1rpg/2.3bpg

And 4blks is absolutely ridiculous...he's a good shotblocker, but those are prime Hakeem/Kareem/Robinson/Mutombo/Eaton/Bol numbers.

Dude, who is that in your avatar.

Post #130 » by **5DOM** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:16 am

DeMar DeRozan

some_rand · Post #131 » by **some_rand** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:32 am

I think the emergence of serge ibaka is only going to boost his stock.

GMs are no longer as worried about drafting young african bigs who appear "too good to be true"

Kirsten19 · Post #132 » by **Kirsten19** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:10 am

I think Bismack is even longer and stronger(heavier) than Ibaka

Ibaka may be an inch taller but that 7'7" wingspan of Bismack Biyombo is unreal, and a 9'3" standing reach.

If Biyombi really is 18, there is a possibility that he may grow an inch or two. That makes him a 6'10"/6'11", 245lb PF with freakish athleticism, explosiveness and good defense.

sisibilio · Post #133 » by **sisibilio** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:08 am

Kirsten19 wrote:I think Bismack is even longer and stronger(heavier) than Ibaka

Ibaka may be an inch taller but that 7'7" wingspan of Bismack Biyombo is unreal, and a 9'3" standing reach.

If Biyombi really is 18, there is a possibility that he may grow an inch or two. That makes him a 6'10"/6'11", 245lb PF with freakish athleticism, explosiveness and good defense.

Even if he's really 18, which i believe is absolutely true, there's a much bigger possibility tht he doesn't grow anymore, so we better leave him at 6'9".
That extra inch wouldn't really make hat much of a difference anyway. (that's what she said)

TB · Post #134 » by TB » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:20 am

Kirsten19 wrote:I think Bismack is even longer and stronger(heavier) than Ibaka

Ibaka may be an inch taller but that 7'7" wingspan of Bismack Biyombo is unreal, and a 9'3" standing reach.

If Biyombi really is 18, there is a possibility that he may grow an inch or two. That makes him a 6'10"/6'11", 245lb PF with freakish athleticism, explosiveness and good defense.

I don't think anyone should go into picking him thinking he might grow some.

for 1, even at 18 he seems pretty developed already. Not likely to grow much. And I don't think its out of the question that he is 20 years old or so.

Any fan/team/GM etc drafting should NOT draft him hoping for physical improvements. Also, they shouldn't use his lack of offensive skill as a "he's only 18, it will come" type of situation.

That being said, his defensive potential, and potential as an offensive finisher inside (with maybe an eventual 15 and in jumper) is enough to make him an easy lotto pick. Probably early lotto.

BROWN · Post #135 » by **BROWN** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:51 am

If he dominates the workouts, I won't be surprised if he goes top 3.

Can anyone name me someone who went from being a late 2nd rounder to a projected top 10 pick this fast?

I can't, Its not really fair to compare his stock rising to those who went from mid 1st to lotto. The kid has talent, we all see it.

MarJJMar · Post #136 » by **MarJJMar** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:40 am

BROWN wrote:If he dominates the workouts, I won't be surprised if he goes top 3.

Can anyone name me someone who went from being a late 2nd rounder to a projected top 10 pick this fast?

I can't, Its not really fair to compare his stock rising to those who went from mid 1st to lotto. The kid has talent, we all see it.

Nene was comparable. He was as "unknown" as Biyombo until he started to workout in the US like a month before the draft..

Point-God · Post #137 » by **Point-God** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:44 pm

droponov wrote:
Kirsten19 wrote:Pistons have Monroe at C, who is fundamentally sound, a 15/10 player (at the moment) and very allrounded player, i think Monroe will eventually develop into a Tim Duncan type big.

What the heck is that?

Monroe lacks the length in his arms to ever play to that level.

Post #138 » by **DeBlazerRiddem** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:56 pm

Do not see Biyombo going top 3. Top 5 would also REALLY surprise me. Top 10 for sure though.

BROWN · Post #139 » by **BROWN** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:35 am

MarJJMar wrote:
BROWN wrote:If he dominates the workouts, I won't be surprised if he goes top 3.

Can anyone name me someone who went from being a late 2nd rounder to a projected top 10 pick this fast?

I can't, Its not really fair to compare his stock rising to those who went from mid 1st to lotto. The kid has talent, we all see it.

Nene was comparable. He was as "unknown" as Biyombo until he started to workout in the US like a month before the draft..

Thanks! If we were to re do that draft, the top 5 would include Stoudemire, Ming, Nene, C. Butler, Boozer.

Picking him at 7 was pretty damn good for New York, except they traded him to Denver right away.

EddieJonesFan · Post #140 » by **EddieJonesFan** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:05 am

BROWN wrote:
MarJJMar wrote:
BROWN wrote:If he dominates the workouts, I won't be surprised if he goes top 3.

Can anyone name me someone who went from being a late 2nd rounder to a projected top 10 pick this fast?

I can't, Its not really fair to compare his stock rising to those who went from mid 1st to lotto. The kid has talent, we all see it.

Nene was comparable. He was as "unknown" as Biyombo until he started to workout in the US like a month before the draft..

Thanks! If we were to re do that draft, the top 5 would include Stoudemire, Ming, Nene, C. Butler, Boozer.

Picking him at 7 was pretty damn good for New York, except they traded him to Denver right away.

They had already agreed to trade that pick to Denver before they even made the selection, so I'm sure they were just picking who Denver told them to.