[Official NYK Board Community Thread] NSFW (Part 3)

[CoolKids]

You know whats funny, the video doesnt prove anything. I wonder if this tough camera guy records thegang bangas selling drugs in his community, or real crimes?.. The answer is no.. This same camera guy would turn his back to someone being robbed, assaulted... Etc... And as far as the confrontation, the guy who got arrested seems like he talks ishhhh, until hes confronted about it. Good job Nypd.

except he didnt do anything wrong/illegal

[br7knicks]

reminds me of the ron white joke in his most recent one, behavioral problems.

"yeah i broke the law, i had weed on me that's fine. but these #*$()! passed 3 meth labs and a dead hooker to get to me"

http://www.trilulilu.ro/anonymouse/03697f693fd4d0

[TheBigL]

How do we know he didnt do anything illegal??. Video is inconclusive, we dont know what happened in its entirety . To the ppl who luv recording.... Please capture real crimes n help out the community by putting the block or hood gangstas on camera also.

[waya]

Was it just me or does it look like the cyclist waves the cops out of the van at :29?

[mrpoetryNmotion]

Was it just me or does it look like the cyclist waves the cops out of the van at :29?

I'm pretty sure that's just the hand of the cop motioning out the window towards the guy who got arrested.

[NYK_89]

You know whats funny, the video doesnt prove anything. I wonder if this tough camera guy records thegang bangas selling drugs in his community, or real crimes?.. The answer is no.. This same camera guy would turn his back to someone being robbed, assaulted... Etc... And as far as the confrontation, the guy who got arrested seems like he talks ishhhh, until hes confronted about it. Good job Nypd.

ever heard of freedom of speech , every single one of these cops should be fired they clearly think they can do whatever they want

[truth serum]

A disgrace.

[HarthorneWingo]

Arrests for being disrespectful to police officers or talking back to them are known as "contempt of cop" arrests, and are a recognized form of police misconduct nationwide. There is abundant evidence that police overuse disorderly conduct laws and similar statutes to arrest people for contempt of cop.

JURY AWARDS $97,500 AGAINST D.C. POLICE IN "CONTEMPT OF COP" ARREST

A District of Columbia jury late yesterday awarded $97,500 in compensatory and punitive damages against the District of Columbia and two D.C. Metropolitan Police Department officers for unconstitutionally arresting Lindsay Huthnance in November 2005 outside a convenience store in the Mount Pleasant neighborhood of Washington, D.C.

When Ms. Huthnance entered a 7-Eleven and saw a number of police officers inside, she made a comment to her boyfriend about the apparent waste of taxpayer money. Taking offense, two officers followed her outside, stopped her, and demanded her ID. When Ms. Huthnance questioned their right to demand her ID and asked for one officer's badge number, the officer ordered her to get up against the wall, searched her and arrested her for disorderly conduct. She was held in a stationhouse cellblock until the next morning, then released without charges.

Arrests for being disrespectful to police officers or talking back to them are known as "contempt of cop" arrests, and are a recognized form of police misconduct nationwide. There is abundant evidence that police overuse disorderly conduct laws and similar statutes to arrest people for contempt of cop. The day after her arrest, Ms. Huthnance called the American Civil Liberties Union, which filed this lawsuit on her behalf, along with attorneys John Moustakas, Jeff Skinner and Andrew Hudson of the law firm Goodwin|Procter LLP.

After nine days of trial testimony, the jury found arresting officers Liliana Acebal and James Antonio individually liable to Ms. Huthnance for false arrest and for violation of her constitutional rights, including her right to free speech under the First Amendment, and awarded her $90,000 compensation. The jury also assessed $5,000 in punitive damages against Officer Acebal and $2,500 in punitive damages against Officer Antonio. Ms. Huthnance's arrest record will also be expunged as a result of the jury's verdict.

In addition to deciding that the individual officers were liable to Ms. Huthnance, the jury also found that the District of Columbia was directly responsible for her unconstitutional arrest because it had been on notice for years before her arrest that improper arrests for "contempt of cop," disguised as disorderly conduct arrests, were a potentially widespread phenomenon within the Metropolitan Police Department, yet had closed its eyes to that unconstitutional practice and had failed to take adequate steps to prevent it.

Philip Eure, Director of the D.C. Office of Police Complaints, testified at trial that his agency had alerted the city that police officers were making improper "contempt of cop" arrests in late 2003—two years before Ms. Huthnance's arrest—and had made recommendations about how to fix the problem. Mr. Eure testified that then-Police Chief Charles Ramsey said these recommendations would be implemented. But it came to light at trial that the recommended changes had not been implemented.

Additionally, the Police Chief of Charlottesville, Virginia, Timothy J. Longo, Sr., testified that the Metropolitan Police Department's systematic failure adequately to train and supervise its officers regarding disorderly conduct arrests amounted to deliberate indifference to the constitutional rights of D.C. citizens, and that this deliberate indifference was a direct cause of Ms. Huthnance's arrest.

"We brought this lawsuit because the D.C. Police had failed to train and supervise its officers to eliminate this pattern of abusive, unconstitutional behavior," said Arthur Spitzer, Legal Director of the ACLU of the Nation's Capital. "We hope the MPD will now take its responsibility more seriously."

In his closing argument to the jury, Ms. Huthnance's lead trial counsel, John Moustakas, relied on damaging concessions by the city's own expert witness, to establish the District's knowledge of the pattern of unconstitutional arrests and its failure to fix the problem. The city's expert conceded that MPD was "irresponsible" in failing to monitor disorderly conduct arrests to identify patterns of unconstitutional conduct and that the police department had "duped" the Office of Police Complaints by failing to live up to representations it made about the steps it would take to address the "contempt of cop" problem.

Commenting on the verdict, Ms. Huthnance said, "I am pleased with the jury's decision and relieved that my name has been cleared after five years of pursuing this case. I hope that the verdict makes the D.C. police take note and make changes so that no one else will ever have to go through what I did that night."

[ElMatatan]

You know whats funny, the video doesnt prove anything. I wonder if this tough camera guy records thegang bangas selling drugs in his community, or real crimes?.. The answer is no.. This same camera guy would turn his back to someone being robbed, assaulted... Etc... And as far as the confrontation, the guy who got arrested seems like he talks ishhhh, until hes confronted about it. Good job Nypd.

Just a General statement: but why is it that people that defend police braking the law always like to de-legitimizing those that caught cops in the action..... I feel like it is mundane to always hear the same rhetoric from those that try to justify the action of the cops.

By the way, I do appreciate police officer risking their lives and the hard work that they do everyday to keep the city safe...but when they are caught braking the law like every other citizen they should be called out on it. No need to justified....

[br7knicks]

Arrests for being disrespectful to police officers or talking back to them are known as "contempt of cop" arrests, and are a recognized form of police misconduct nationwide. There is abundant evidence that police overuse disorderly conduct laws and similar statutes to arrest people for contempt of cop.

cop instigated it according to the video. as stated by all of the innocent bystanders, and the guy whom was under arrest, the cops were not being part of the joke.

the cops are at fault, or at least that one guy that was hell bent on his power trip. my father was a judge, and i normally dislike the rebellious type, but that cop was clearly at fault here - based on the video only though.

[boomann21]

Wait wasn't the guy cracking jokes on the bicycle man. I don't think he directed one word to the cops when he first started his stand up routine. What happened to freedom of speech? Is that still in the constitution?

[atribecalledrch]

Anyone have Gamefly in addition to Netflix? Is it worth the $18 a month?

[Joseph17]

I'm not saying that the officers were right, but the guy is an idiot. Who says "I wasn't even talking to you!" to a police officer? If the officer told me to mind my own business I would just walk away and end it right there.

[columbiaa14]

I'm not saying that the officers were right, but the guy is an idiot. Who says "I wasn't even talking to you!" to a police officer? If the officer told me to mind my own business I would just walk away and end it right there.

Sure but should you get arrested for saying that?

[NYK_Lampe]

The saddest part is this wont be considered evidence in court and the guy who filmed it might be facing charges since it is now illegal to photograph or video tape policemen working

[Rasho Brezec]

That douche was clearly disrespectful towards cops. People just like to blame the cops for everything.

[knicks742]

In my dealings with cops, they have been nothing but respectful and helpful. I dont know what you guys are talking about.

[NYK_Lampe]

That douche was clearly disrespectful towards cops. People just like to blame the cops for everything.

so being disrespectful is a crime? is this Nazi Germany?

[Rasho Brezec]

Okay, here's a scenario:

A mod publicly warns some poster. You decide to chime in with a completely unnecesary snarky comment to that poster. Mod tells to you to stay out of it and you reply you weren't even talking to him. Instead of shuting your mouth, you go back and forth with that mod.

What do you think the outcome will be?

[knicks742]

Okay, here's a scenario:

A mod publicly warns some poster. You decide to chime in with a completely unnecesary snarky comment to that poster. Mod tells to you to stay out of it and you reply you weren't even talking to him. Instead of shuting your mouth, you go back and forth with that mod.

What do you think the outcome will be?

*Raises hand*