Litsch to Vegas, Francisco Activated

[DonYon]

I actually like Litsch (although I wish he'd shave that dirt off his face and shave off some belly fat while he's at it) and I don't think he deserves this, but we're most likely gonna see him back here for a good chunk of the season anyway.

It looks like Francisco' ascension sort of got overshadowed by the Litsch vs Reyes debate lol. I can't wait to see him pitch.

[There There]

What a waste of option. Nobody cares if we lose a sh#tbum for nothing.

An option isn't used if the assignment is less than 20 days

[kwamebargnani]

What a waste of option. Nobody cares if we lose a sh#tbum for nothing.

An option isn't used if the assignment is less than 20 days

whatever. We don't need to protect Jojo **** Reyes.

[There There]

What a waste of option. Nobody cares if we lose a sh#tbum for nothing.

An option isn't used if the assignment is less than 20 days

whatever. We don't need to protect Jojo **** Reyes.

Sure you do if you value any future return, even if it's a minor league reclamation project, more than nothing

[kwamebargnani]

Sure you do if you value any future return, even if it's a minor league reclamation project, more than nothing

The guy is a junk. You're probably gonna get a junk in return if anyone even wants him. So why bother?

[rtcaino]

Farquhar was fantastic return for Purcey, but perhaps the A's wanted Purcey all along and that is why that deal presented itself.

If AA does not have any ongoing discussions regarding Reyes, then why force the matter by DFA'ing him right now.

For sure. After 2010, just about everyone would have taken Purcey. He looked to have turned the corner.

Good call on AA having reasonable assurance about realizing value for Purcey. I was worried that we'd get nothing back for him - but quotes from AA indicated he was confident about a trade the whole time.

[rtcaino]

Reyes has pitched over 200 innings in the majors (almost all of them in the terrible NL), and done horrifyingly bad. For comparison, David Purcey only had a little over 100 innings as a starter (and did much better, considering the league/division he pitched in). But as you know, the Jays gave up on him as a starter, moved him to the bullpen, and then gave up on him as a reliever.

What need is there to give a lesser David Purcey another look or two? We know what's coming here.

Well, the majority of Reyes' innings came while he was 23 or younger -- clearly not an ideal sample to evaluate a pitcher's underlying ability.

Also, Reyee is younger than Pucey, and still has recourse to the bullpen. Purcey had no more room on the depth chart to slide down.

[youreachiteach]

Reyes has pitched over 200 innings in the majors (almost all of them in the terrible NL), and done horrifyingly bad. For comparison, David Purcey only had a little over 100 innings as a starter (and did much better, considering the league/division he pitched in). But as you know, the Jays gave up on him as a starter, moved him to the bullpen, and then gave up on him as a reliever.

What need is there to give a lesser David Purcey another look or two? We know what's coming here.

Well, the majority of Reyes' innings came while he was 23 or younger -- clearly not an ideal sample to evaluate a pitcher's underlying ability.

Also, Reyee is younger than Pucey, and still has recourse to the bullpen. Purcey had no more room on the depth chart to slide down.

Look, I'm a Litsch fan---but his stuff doesn't play in this division with the big boys--it just doesn't.

He's a fine little fifth starter, but in this division, you need power arms pretty much throughout to even TRY to compete at a high level. No, not this year particularly--but ANY year. Uncovering a power lefty (work with me here) off the scrapheap could be a HUGE boost.

If Litsch was a lefty, he'd still be up. Because as a lefty, you can be finesse and still be successful with guile and location (see Lester, John, and Peittite, Andy). I don't know what interviews you guys have been listening to, but the ones I hear say AA favors pitchers with Big V velocity.

Marcum traded and moved out. Drabek brought in. Morrow brought in. The only guys who throw low 90 are lefties...because they're the only pitchers who can get away with it. The last one who could was Maddux. Generational talent kind of guy.

Reyes has excellent stuff. Everyone here saw it against the Yankees A squad in the spring. When he gets the ball down, he's lights out. The Jays have a fantastic piching coach and a pitching coach for a manager (who was also a strict talent evaluator for Cleveland for over 5 years). They've seen something in this guy that they want a LONG look at. Is it for 5 or 6 starts? No. But he might get 1 or 2 more. They're not going to let him Josh Towers the season away (like he did that one year).

I get most of you have seen hi suck in Atlanta--but his problem hasn't been walks--it's been throwing too much around the plate. Im not going to say he's a shoo-in for greatness, but perhaps a little more patience with AA and co (considering the amount of great trades he's made thus far) might be a more reasonable approach. If he sucks two more times, by all means, let him have it. But I sense they think he can do MUCH more. Let's hope so.