Series Thread: Yankees vs. Blue Jays | April 19-20

[Randle McMurphy]

Richard Griffin
Brett Cecil expressed "anger" at himself. Sees nothing he can build on in any of his starts and does not know how to fix it. He's a mess.

Well that's a good thing to hear from one of your starters. Seems to have absolutely no confidence in himself. When can we bring Jesse Litsch back?

[youreachiteach]

Richard Griffin
Brett Cecil expressed "anger" at himself. Sees nothing he can build on in any of his starts and does not know how to fix it. He's a mess.

Well that's a good thing to hear from one of your starters. Seems to have absolutely no confidence in himself. When can we bring Jesse Litsch back?

I was watching the Yankee broadcast today (was on local ESPN Malaysia--I live in Brunei at the moment) and their explanation is that perhaps Cecil has cut too many of his pitches, which has led him to lose extension (and thus, velocity) on the fastball. They also think the same thing has happened to Hughes.

Still though, this is all on Cecil. He is really pussing out here.

They mentioned that Cecil threw ten fastballs the entire time he pitched today. 10.

He is **** scared out there and refuses to throw the strike under the hands even though he makes the hitters respect the other stuff he throws if he does.

He threw it until Granderson tripled (who frankly is a notorious first strike hitte (who burned them again that way in the ninth--SCOUTING REPORT CIBIA!) and then he gave up. He had only one pitch working today--the curve. It worked for two innings and then the Yankees figured out (brilliant tacticians that they are) that he was only throwing it and he got hammered again,

I know he's only got 88-90 right now but he HAS to throw the fastball for stirkes. HAS to. He doesn't have the finesse game to throw 30 chageups a game.

Until he really believes that--he's better off down and Litsch up, as much as it pains me to say, because he'll at least challenge the hitters.

[Randle McMurphy]

Richard Griffin
Brett Cecil expressed "anger" at himself. Sees nothing he can build on in any of his starts and does not know how to fix it. He's a mess.

Well that's a good thing to hear from one of your starters. Seems to have absolutely no confidence in himself. When can we bring Jesse Litsch back?

I was watching the Yankee broadcast today (was on local ESPN Malaysia--I live in Brunei at the moment) and their explanation is that perhaps Cecil has cut too many of his pitches, which has led him to lose extension (and thus, velocity) on the fastball. They also think the same thing has happened to Hughes.

Still though, this is all on Cecil. He is really pussing out here.

They mentioned that Cecil threw ten fastballs the entire time he pitched today. 10.

He is **** scared out there and refuses to throw the strike under the hands even though he makes the hitters respect the other stuff he throws if he does.

He threw it until Granderson tripled (who frankly is a notorious first strike hitte (who burned them again that way in the ninth--SCOUTING REPORT CIBIA!) and then he gave up. He had only one pitch working today--the curve. It worked for two innings and then the Yankees figured out (brilliant tacticians that they are) that he was only throwing it and he got hammered again,

I know he's only got 88-90 right now but he HAS to throw the fastball for stirkes. HAS to. He doesn't have the finesse game to throw 30 chageups a game.

Until he really believes that--he's better off down and Litsch up, as much as it pains me to say, because he'll at least challenge the hitters.

Agreed on all counts. Baseball is a mental game as much as a physical one. If Cecil doesn't believe he can get major league hitters out with his fastball, he's simply not going to.

[spykelee]

Richard Griffin
Brett Cecil expressed "anger" at himself. Sees nothing he can build on in any of his starts and does not know how to fix it. He's a mess.

Well that's a good thing to hear from one of your starters. Seems to have absolutely no confidence in himself. When can we bring Jesse Litsch back?

I don't know why Cecil is even struglling... I know his control hasnt been great, but there's way to much nonesense about his velocity going on. It may be down a little bit, but from what I saw, his changeup was usually in and around 77mph today, and what few fastballs he threw where usually around 89-90mph. If you have a 10mph difference between those 2 pitches, you don't need anymore velocity. Shaun Marcum didn't exactly overpower guys, his fastball was only on par with Cecil at it's peak. I know Marcum's change was awesome, but Cecil's is good to, he just isn't doing a good enough job of keeping guys off balance and hitting his spots.

[tsherkin]

Yep. The velocity isn't a major issue. His command and his approach are much bigger problems. He's got talent, he was never an overpowering pitcher to begin with, and he's just all kinds of out-of-whack.

[Randle McMurphy]

Yep. The velocity isn't a major issue. His command and his approach are much bigger problems. He's got talent, he was never an overpowering pitcher to begin with, and he's just all kinds of out-of-whack.

It's definitely mental. His stuff looked fine in the last two outings.