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Post#21 » by Devilanche » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:19 pm

bbms wrote:Thibodeau is recognized for creating Celtics' defensive system, but why did their defense kept high level when he left and why our defense regressed when Ron Adams left?


they had veteran defensive player Garnett to anchor their defence, we had? I'm just saying, it's probably unfair to jump on brooks for regression on defence. There could be other factors that we missed, who's to say last season wasn't an anomaly?
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Post#22 » by sonictecture » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:45 am

In addition when Thibodeau left for Chicago, Boston hired Lawrence Frank to coach the defense. Who did Presti hire to replace Adams?
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Post#23 » by fallacy » Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:53 am

I didn't read all the thread but rather than replacing brooks I would rather just get a really good defensive assistant.
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Post#24 » by vegajf51 » Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:26 am

fallacy wrote:I didn't read all the thread but rather than replacing brooks I would rather just get a really good defensive assistant.

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Post#25 » by KayDee35 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:27 am

Adelman's teams overachieve. I don't think getting the #4 seed this season would be considered overachieving for this team.

Brooks may develop into a top 5 coach or he may not. I'm not seeing signs that he will go that route. Adelman is a top 5 coach, imho, and would have this roster beasting on offense and defense.

Brooks may surprise me this postseason. But if he stays the same, we're going to fire him in 2 years and there probably won't be a coach of Adelman's caliber around.

I like Sloan but I'm not sure how great a fit he is for this team. I'd still consider him over Brooks but I'd go for Adelman first.
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Post#26 » by sonictecture » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:45 am

When did overachievement become the goal?

The Thunder improved. Players continued to show development. Brooks continues to stick with the program.

The measure of Brooks is not whether he is in your eyes a top 5 coach by the end of the playoffs. Brooks just, like the players he coaches is expected to develop and get better through experience. No one is trading Durant if he doesn't BEAST in every game and lead this team to a championship in 2011, and no one is firing Brooks if he doesn't become a top 5 coach. Don't you see how silly that is?
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Post#27 » by bbms » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:56 am

We won't win it unless we have a more rigid offensive game, because we don't have BBIQ, you can't allow freedom to Russ while being the primairly ball handler because he can't see the floor, the Scott Brooks laissez faire mentality won't work because the day Westbrook will be a more willing passer might never come, we have a championship roster, but we don't have a championship TEAM and we won't win it without the free throw line if we stick with this plan and coaching staff.

We don't need Thunder to overachieve. We just need some organization at court. We don't have an organized offense and neither an organized defense. It's something you just see watching games and it's frustrating.
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Post#28 » by Devilanche » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:13 am

wow, i didn't realise you guys expectations of the team to be that high.
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Post#29 » by IbakaFlakaFlame » Mon May 2, 2011 3:27 am

If you look at Brooks, he's just not a very good offensive coach. He's been the coach for three years and his rotations and playcalling has always been questionable. Sometimes I wonder whether we actually have an offensive playbook. I'd much rather have Adelman/Sloan because of their overall coaching ability.

I've been contemplating Rick Adelman as well, but would he be a better fit over somebody such as Sloan?

I think one of the positives of Adelman is his offensive X and O's, there's a lot of ball movement and motion and this would benefit players such as Durant, Ibaka, Harden, Cook, Maynor. However, something Adelman has had are competent offensive bigs. The tandem of Webber/Divac. Yao and Hayes in houston. How would Perkins and Ibaka respond to the type of ball movement that Adelman would demand? The question is how much can you do with three offensively weak players in our starting lineup. Additionally, we'd need a defensive specialist alongside him. Adelman isn't a bad defensive coach, but he's not an elite one either. He's definitely a top five coach overall though.
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Post#30 » by HeartSouloma » Mon May 2, 2011 4:02 am

^ I agree, but we can bring back Ron Adams back to be our defensive coach. Then bring in Rick to be our main coach.
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Post#31 » by Earl Sweatshirt » Tue May 3, 2011 3:31 am

Unfortunately, I think we're stuck with Brooks barring any massive underachievements. It kind of sucks, really.
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Post#32 » by CKRT » Thu May 12, 2011 10:32 pm

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Post#33 » by Clangus » Fri May 13, 2011 6:30 am

sonictecture wrote:When did overachievement become the goal?

The Thunder improved. Players continued to show development. Brooks continues to stick with the program.

The measure of Brooks is not whether he is in your eyes a top 5 coach by the end of the playoffs. Brooks just, like the players he coaches is expected to develop and get better through experience. No one is trading Durant if he doesn't BEAST in every game and lead this team to a championship in 2011, and no one is firing Brooks if he doesn't become a top 5 coach. Don't you see how silly that is?



I am with you 100% on this and your previous post on Brooks. Brooks has improved and the entire Thunder Coaching team have developed our guys very very well. Give Brooks a decent Defensive anchor and look where he has led us? 1 game away from the WCF - the season before last we were all talking about what to do with our upcoming high lottery pick.

John Wooden did not win the Championship straight away, he grew into the great coach he eventually became. Give Scottie time to grow with the team.
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Post#34 » by Sagev » Fri May 13, 2011 9:32 am

Earl Sweatshirt wrote:Unfortunately, I think we're stuck with Brooks barring any massive underachievements. It kind of sucks, really.


Yeah, unfortunately, this is true.

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