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Post#241 » by Captain_Obvious » Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:42 am

Sabzi wrote:Good game Mavs. Dirk needs to come get the damn ball late imo. Then again Jason Kidd has nailed most of his wide open 3's in this series.

Good luck in game 5.

2:15, three point play. Oh wait, called an offensive foul by the mafia refs.
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Post#242 » by jbsg02 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:56 am

I really think a healthy caron would have been a difference maker
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Post#243 » by Brautigan1 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:01 am

peppersquared wrote:Lmao at Portland. Sucks to be u. Although it's no surprise that bad shooters aren't shooting good thou.


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Post#244 » by crick » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:49 am

First of all Blazer fans, the Lakers will kick your ass just like they will kick our ass if we have to play them. Bynum and Odom will cover Aldridge and Bryant will take Roy out of his game. If the Lakers play the Mavs, Lakers in 5, if the Blazers play the lakers, Lakers in six. This matchup means nothing cause the Lakers are the best team in the west.

Secondely, blow this team up. Do we really want another 50 win season and first round playoff exit? Unless they can aquire a star like Chris Paul or Deron Williams, this team is not a contender. Kidd needs to retire, Jet needs to go and Minnie Me also needs to go. I would be shocked if Cuban brings this team back, I know I wouldnt.
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Post#245 » by Moonbeam » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:51 am

Portland fan here. I have been on the other end of a game like this in Game 7 of the WCF in 2000, so I offer my condolences. I'm thrilled with the win, although I acknowledge that Portland got a friendly whistle. Good luck the rest of the series. I have grown to respect Dallas quite a bit in this postseason, and I will root for you to win the title if you take out Portland.
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Post#246 » by SaintofKillers » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:12 am

Moonbeam wrote:Portland fan here. I have been on the other end of a game like this in Game 7 of the WCF in 2000, so I offer my condolences. I'm thrilled with the win, although I acknowledge that Portland got a friendly whistle. Good luck the rest of the series. I have grown to respect Dallas quite a bit in this postseason, and I will root for you to win the title if you take out Portland.


Yeah the Chandler call was HUGE but that's just to say that we're scared Roy will score on the other end and we want to get away from that as much as possible.
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Post#247 » by dyukcs » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:33 am

They reported that Butler was cleared for full contact and my mind started wondering. Going into the 4th quarter I wasn't even thinking about the game, I was thinking maybe we could steal game 1 or 2 from the Lakers and pull of that upset. And maybe Butler would be ready for the WCF, and maybe the longest of long shots was getting a little closer.

Then 5 minutes passed and I was questioning if we could even get out of the 1st round. I have some work that's not getting done tonight, and I haven't eaten today but I don't have an appetite. Really at this moment, I'm questioning what possesses a guy to follow any sport. How am I as a grown man letting myself get this emotionally invested in something I have no control over?

I know it's childish but I feel like **** right now.
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Post#248 » by SlobbaN » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:09 am

I said if we lost game 4, we would lose the whole series and I'm sticking with my prediction. The team has no character and no coach, at least Cuban sees it and we can hope for better changes next year. The first of them must be firing Rick, the guy is just too bad for coaching a play-off team.
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Post#249 » by 2011Champs » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:18 am

I still can't get wtf coach is thinking watching 3's being jacked up and watching Roy catch on fire while Stevenson sits.
Terry -15 in 31 minutes. Stevenson +13 in 16 minutes. Coach is stupid. Stevenson should have been on the court guarding Roy every single minute.
DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS. NOT JACKING UP THREES!!!
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Post#250 » by mffl_14 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:23 am

dyukcs wrote:They reported that Butler was cleared for full contact and my mind started wondering. Going into the 4th quarter I wasn't even thinking about the game, I was thinking maybe we could steal game 1 or 2 from the Lakers and pull of that upset. And maybe Butler would be ready for the WCF, and maybe the longest of long shots was getting a little closer.

Then 5 minutes passed and I was questioning if we could even get out of the 1st round. I have some work that's not getting done tonight, and I haven't eaten today but I don't have an appetite. Really at this moment, I'm questioning what possesses a guy to follow any sport. How am I as a grown man letting myself get this emotionally invested in something I have no control over?

I know it's childish but I feel like **** right now.


Dude I am totally with you on this one. I feel like breaking up with the Mavs after this tonight. While yes the refs sucked and Carlisle seems to find ways to help lose the game more than win it, ultimately the players have to find a way to get it done and up until 2 games in the 2006 finals the Mavs found a way to get it done and ever since then they find away to get their hearts ripped out. My heart can't take it anymore!
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Post#251 » by Brautigan1 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:29 am

Just so you all know, most real Blazer fans, including myself, understand completely that the late foul on Chandler was BS. I don't like game-deciding BS calls any more than anyone.

That said, you have to hand it to Roy. That took everything he had to pull it off. Amazing display.

P.S. Kidd has been pretty amazing this series overall, and I can't understand why so many here give him so much crap for not being perfect. The man gives it his all every game, no question about it.

Good game, and good series. And good luck on the calls =/.
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Post#252 » by Brooklyn_34 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:32 am

DesignatedDrunk wrote:I still can't get wtf coach is thinking watching 3's being jacked up and watching Roy catch on fire while Stevenson sits.
Terry -15 in 31 minutes. Stevenson +13 in 16 minutes. Coach is stupid. Stevenson should have been on the court guarding Roy every single minute.
DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS. NOT JACKING UP THREES!!!
STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!!!



I would not have said it that way, but you are essentially correct.

They had Marion on him and Roy was scoring. Marion did not need to be on him: Brewer could have chased him around the court. Stevenson could have as well.

Runs like this happen, but what really go to me was that Dallas scored only 15 points in the quarter. How did that happen?

Why did Dirk not get more field goal opportunities? Why was he locked out of the last 6 minutes of the game? He is the best player on the floor. That cannot happen. Only 17 field goals? While Terry gets 16 (and makes only 5) and plays his usual horrible defense? There is a problem there. You don't run plays for Terry--YOU RUN THEM FOR DIRK.

Again, as I predicted, the Blazers are doing exactly what the Heat did in 2006.

Carlisle is not making the right rotations. If he wises up, Dallas can still win.
Cuban needs to make some decisions NOW.
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Post#253 » by JES12 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:54 am

Brautigan1 wrote:Just so you all know, most real Blazer fans, including myself, understand completely that the late foul on Chandler was BS. I don't like game-deciding BS calls any more than anyone.
Every single one of those calls on Chandler...including the tech was BS. Just like the offensive foul on Dirk (4th), Barea (1st) etc. when you guys did the same crap and got to the line every single time. There was much more than what I am typing on this post, but for anyone to come over here and act like one foul was all that Portland got away with today is complete and utter display of homerism on your part.

Granted, even with that we got a big lead beacue you were missing tons of shots you normally make and because of that we should have been able to keep the lead (thanks alot Kidd-Terry-Dirk), but the refs definately played their part in this debacle.
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Post#254 » by Maverick86 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:58 am

Taking out Stevenson for Terry in the 3rd quarter is what really sticks out to me, the Mavs where beating the Blazers down with Kidd, Stevenson, Marion, Dirk and Chandler but RC puts Terry in and the leads goes away.

I'm not even sure about looking at game 5 now...this loss feels game the game 3 loss to the Spurs last season and the hurt also.
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Post#255 » by The Emcee » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:58 am

JES12 wrote:
Brautigan1 wrote:Just so you all know, most real Blazer fans, including myself, understand completely that the late foul on Chandler was BS. I don't like game-deciding BS calls any more than anyone.
Every single one of those calls on Chandler...including the tech was BS. Just like the offensive foul on Dirk (4th), Barea (1st) etc. when you guys did the same crap and got to the line every single time. There was much more than what I am typing on this post, but for anyone to come over here and act like one foul was all that Portland got away with today is complete and utter display of homerism on your part.

Granted, even with that we got a big lead beacue you were missing tons of shots you normally make and because of that we should have been able to keep the lead (thanks alot Kidd-Terry-Dirk), but the refs definately played their part in this debacle.


I've seen you post this many times, and I'd just like a clarification as to why the Dirk offensive foul wasn't an offensive foul. Wallace seemed as set as most are when drawing an offensive foul.
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Post#256 » by Moonbeam » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:58 am

dyukcs wrote:Then 5 minutes passed and I was questioning if we could even get out of the 1st round. I have some work that's not getting done tonight, and I haven't eaten today but I don't have an appetite. Really at this moment, I'm questioning what possesses a guy to follow any sport. How am I as a grown man letting myself get this emotionally invested in something I have no control over?

I know it's childish but I feel like **** right now.


You sound like me, and I'm 30.

Portland's loss in Game 7 of the WCF in 2000 was so scarring for me, and Portland hasn't been out of the first round since. I would like to say that I've grown since then, but defeats like that (and Game 1 in this series) still totally deflate me.

Keep your chin up, though. Dallas will still advance in all likelihood.
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Post#257 » by portlandpilot » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:04 am

Moonbeam wrote:
dyukcs wrote:Then 5 minutes passed and I was questioning if we could even get out of the 1st round. I have some work that's not getting done tonight, and I haven't eaten today but I don't have an appetite. Really at this moment, I'm questioning what possesses a guy to follow any sport. How am I as a grown man letting myself get this emotionally invested in something I have no control over?

I know it's childish but I feel like **** right now.


You sound like me, and I'm 30.

Portland's loss in Game 7 of the WCF in 2000 was so scarring for me, and Portland hasn't been out of the first round since. I would like to say that I've grown since then, but defeats like that (and Game 1 in this series) still totally deflate me.

Keep your chin up, though. Dallas will still advance in all likelihood.


That game still kills to think about. How awful was that
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Post#258 » by Captain_Obvious » Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:19 am

Ahh, 10 episodes of "The big bang theory" later I'm in good spirits again. Win this series and get Terry off this team. In whatever chronological order. I still think we only lost because of the refs though, we just did enough to handily win the game after the 3rd, refs were instructed to do everything in their power to make this a game. And we could not stop Roy when we realized whats up.

The frightening part is: If the league is that determined to get us out of the playoffs against Portland, what are they going to do when we actually play a big name like LA?
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Post#259 » by dyukcs » Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:37 am

I don't want to blame the officiating. We stopped defending in the first few minutes of the 4th, then we brought the starters back in and stopped the bleeding. Then Chandler picked up his 5th foul and it was game over. We started giving up layups, the defense couldn't cope with the dribble penetration and it completely imploded. We would've been better off with Haywood out there than a restrained Chandler.

But other than that every 50-50 call went against us, I can't help but feel that our effort, as pathetic as it was, would still have been enough to win this game. I seriously hope our players aren't as deflated as I am, because if they are then we've already lost the series. There are different ways to spin it.. You could say it took a miracle effort for them to win by 2... but I don't think there's a person on the planet who actually feels that way.
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Post#260 » by ahonui06 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:24 am

Blame RC.
Blame Terry.

Give DIRK the ball.

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