Cecil down, Woodward up: revolving door's a'swinging

[WpgPage]

DON'T PANIC.

I thought Villanueva or Rzepczynski would do spot starts and Cecil would be placed in the bullpen.

I would prefer that then the Woodward callup at the moment.

How would that help at all?? that is literally the worst possible thing you could do right now. It solves none of Cecil's problems in fact it probably makes them worse, and you screw up Zeps transition to a reviler which like it or not the team is very set on doing. Woodward is fine for right now he will barley if ever see the field and we don't have to worry about messing him up. With the injury to Hill we needed someone who could play middle IF on the bench in case Yunel or J-Mac are hurt. The solution is really quite simple if Hill is hurt enough to go on the DL he will go on retroactive to the 19th and Litch will be brought back on emergency recall if Hill is good to go then Woodward goes back down and Mills or Stewart come up to make a spot start.

[tecumseh18]

It's okay, though...Arencibia is only hitting .289/.360/.622 in the early going. We don't need to get him in the lineup or anything.

Look at it positively. He and Drabek are looking decent for the long haul. Davis seems alright. Bautista looks to be worth the contract. Escobar's good. We're all waiting for the right time to bring up Lawrie, who looks like a really good one. Lind can play first. We're hanging in there without Morrow, and an otherwise decimated starting rotation. The bullpen looks solid even without our top reliever (FF). We have Randle's word that Snider will come around.

If we need another serviceable starter, AA has the pieces to get a deal done. Not that we were going anywhere anyway. Playoffs (next year), baby!

[YogiStewart]

Does this mean, though, that Arencibia can only catch one current member of the Jays rotation (Romero)?
Everybody else (Morrow, Drabek, Reyes) is supposedly Molina's according to Farrell.

Oh ****, I hadn't even thought of that.

It's okay, though...Arencibia is only hitting .289/.360/.622 in the early going. We don't need to get him in the lineup or anything.

Thanks, Cito

[squeekysneakers]

I think we might be missing the main reason that Cecil is struggling. He needs Jose Molina calling the balls and strikes. It would appear that part of the problem with this pitching staff is that JP is catching the majority of the games.

Who has been the most consistent starter thus far? Kyle Drabek.

Who's caching Drabek? Jose Molina.

JP might be one of the reasons for the inconsistent start of our pitchers.

He hits a tonne and there is no reason to think he won't learn th job throughout the season, but damage is being done to our pitchers. Even Romero hasn't been his usual self lately.

Maybe we need to rotate Molina in there a little more often. Or have him call pitches from the bench..something.

If anyone doubts the power of Jose Molina, look what happened to the Yankee pitching staff once he left.

Cecil is looking a lot more AJ Burnett these days.

[jrsmith]

Voodvard maytrix champanship.

[Trilogy]

Does this mean, though, that Arencibia can only catch one current member of the Jays rotation (Romero)?
Everybody else (Morrow, Drabek, Reyes) is supposedly Molina's according to Farrell.

Oh ****, I hadn't even thought of that.

It's okay, though...Arencibia is only hitting .289/.360/.622 in the early going. We don't need to get him in the lineup or anything.

Didn't Morrow say something along the lines in Spring training that he felt comfortable with whoever now? I'm not totally sure but I recall him saying something along those lines, might be wrong.

Drabek is understandable, he's a young pitcher who is a big part of our future, ease him in if you have to. But Reyes is neither good nor important enough to justify taking one of your better bats out of the lineup. Let him sink or swim on his own.

[WpgPage]

Hes still missing his spots, Molina might have helped a little but I think your overestimating the effect JPA? Molina have on the pitchers.

[Relentless88]

Can someone tell me what difference the catcher makes in regards to a pitcher's success? What would Molina do differently than JPA with Cecil?

Cecil's issues are his own issues...I don't think you blame JPA for that.

[Modern_epic]

I think we might be missing the main reason that Cecil is struggling. He needs Jose Molina calling the balls and strikes. It would appear that part of the problem with this pitching staff is that JP is catching the majority of the games.

Who has been the most consistent starter thus far? Kyle Drabek.

Who's caching Drabek? Jose Molina.

JP might be one of the reasons for the inconsistent start of our pitchers.

He hits a tonne and there is no reason to think he won't learn th job throughout the season, but damage is being done to our pitchers. Even Romero hasn't been his usual self lately.

Maybe we need to rotate Molina in there a little more often. Or have him call pitches from the bench..something.

If anyone doubts the power of Jose Molina, look what happened to the Yankee pitching staff once he left.

Cecil is looking a lot more AJ Burnett these days.

Because Jo-Jo us lighting the world on fire?

[flatjacket1]

Can someone tell me what difference the catcher makes in regards to a pitcher's success? What would Molina do differently than JPA with Cecil?

Cecil's issues are his own issues...I don't think you blame JPA for that.

Different calls by the catcher, some catchers are better at calling games than others. It is very possible Molina is better at calling the game. A catcher who has been in the majors for years in our system would obviously know a) our system pitcher's strengths or weaknesses and b) which calls to make in certain counts. There is no book on this, there might be a club strategy or whatever but the game varies much in part of the catcher.

Another aspect is leadership. When a pitcher gets a little upset (which happens) and the catcher goes to the mound, some will be better at working their pitchers personality. (Aka some might know when to push, scold, or compliment certain personalities)

Another factor is base stealing. A single with a guy at first means first and second, while a single with a guy on second means a run. This is reflected in the pitchers ERA, regardless if the catcher throws out the base runner. In his whole minor league career JPA has only come up with an out 29% of the time a guy steals a base. His major league numbers are a smaller sample size yet still end up being 31%. Compare this to 41% in the majors by Molina and you got quite a differential. This will for sure end up costing some runs defensively.

All of that being said I think JP needs to catch Morrow. No point of having Molina in there because we do give up a little offense. However I think you have to be crazy to even consider not having Molina catch Drabek.

Over the course of most games, catchers won't make a difference with the pitchers that will be reflected in the W/L column.

[Geddy]

Litsch will be called up and will start on Tuesday.

[tsherkin]

And I hope he runs Reyes right out of the rotation and into the 'pen.