2010-11 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread

[Silk Wilkes]

Bargnani for Iggy.I really really like that trade.....

Bayless/Jose
DeMar
Iggy/JJ/Kleiza
Ed/Amir
Kanter

Too much toughness in that team right there

Philly can get a nice big scoring option, and create more opportunity for Evan Turner.

I highly doubt Philly trades Iggy for Bargs - just to create more opportunity for Evan Turner. That is a lot of salary to take on to open up time for Turner. I am sure Iggy can command more than Bargs...but, it sure would be nice if that trade went through.

It's not just Bargs for Iggy. It's Bargs ans Leandro's expiring for Iggy and Speights useless butt.

[bboyskinnylegs]

^^ The Sixers actually save money annually....Bargs' deal has one more year, but he makes 9.25/10/10.75/11.5 (a total of 41.5mil/4yrs), while Iggy's deal is 13.5/14.7/15.9 (44.2mil/3yrs).

[Silk Wilkes]

They really don't want Speights either. We pretty much take their problems and give them some cap space while acquiring one of the best wing defenders in the league. A DeRozan/Iguodala wing combo is only second/third to Boston & Miami in the East.

[witnessraps]

Bargnani for Iggy.I really really like that trade.....

Bayless/Jose
DeMar
Iggy/JJ/Kleiza
Ed/Amir
Kanter

Too much toughness in that team right there

Philly can get a nice big scoring option, and create more opportunity for Evan Turner.

I highly doubt Philly trades Iggy for Bargs - just to create more opportunity for Evan Turner. That is a lot of salary to take on to open up time for Turner. I am sure Iggy can command more than Bargs...but, it sure would be nice if that trade went through.

Just remember Bargs has shown the ability to be elite offensively....so a team might value him pretty highly if they think they can take care of the defense.

[Rapsobsessed7]

I doubt they just throw in Speights too. I think that's just gravy for Toronto getting a young C that you take a look at and is an expiring at worst.

Bargnani + Barbosa for Iggy works under the CBA but I doubt they need Barbosa with Meeks/Williams there

Holiday / Williams
Turner / Meeks
Young / Nocioni
Brand / Brackins
Bargnani / Speights

+ 2011 1st

I think you'd need to send Barbosa to a 3rd team. What might work is

To PHI: Bargnani + higher 1st
To TOR: Iggy + bad contract (3rd team)
To 3rd Team: Barbosa + PHI 1st

Or sending Barbosa for a 3rd teams incentive

[miruss2001]

Bargs and Jose to Atl for Hinrich, Williams and a 1st.

Imagine ATL if they had a little more offensive potency and a real distributor like Jose. They take on the longer term deals but get the better talent. This allows Horford and Smith to focus on the boards, and extends the floor for them (3 point shooting beyond Crawford they lack). Jose's assist to turnover ratio would be a godsend for this team.

Toronto gets a 3 in Williams and a 1 yr remaining better defensive pg in Hinrich. Williams platoons at the 3 (North Carolina connection in effect with Davis) and Hinrich is a 1 year rental at 10 mil and then becomes capspace in a year when so much young talent will be coming into the league. That just translates into more flexibility for Toronto. I figure ATL might add the first as the deeper they go the less meaningful it becomes. If ATL wants a second back, so be it.

[Rapsobsessed7]

What about also adding a Klezia/Pachulia swap to it. Also ATL can't trade a 1st till 2013

Bayless / Hinrich
Derozan / Barbosa
Williams / Johnson
Davis / Amir
Kanter / Pachulia

[TrashTalk]

Not sure if this has been posted, and I'm not really into looking through 90 pages to figure out if it was.
But what do you guys think about trading our draft pick this year (assuming it's 3rd) to Memphis for OJ Mayo and their 2012 first round pick?

I'd love to see Mayo and Derozan play together, and this gives us a chance to tap in to a deep draft next year. While the pick will probably be in the low 20's, the depth of the draft means a decent player should be available at that point.

If you think we are giving up too little, what would who or what (pick) would you add in to make it fair?

[CanadaB-Ball]

Not sure if this has been posted, and I'm not really into looking through 90 pages to figure out if it was.
But what do you guys think about trading our draft pick this year (assuming it's 3rd) to Memphis for OJ Mayo and their 2012 first round pick?

I'd love to see Mayo and Derozan play together, and this gives us a chance to tap in to a deep draft next year. While the pick will probably be in the low 20's, the depth of the draft means a decent player should be available at that point.

If you think we are giving up too little, what would who or what (pick) would you add in to make it fair?

Memphis was basically giving Mayo away.

It shouldn't cost us a third overall pick.

[KrazyP]

That's probably what it would take to get Thorn's attention. Not sure it would be the best offer we would get. Probably in the top 3 of offers. I have suspicions that Thorn would want to hammer down a 2012 pick in negotiations. I don't think you guys want to overpay to land Andre. Thorn will get someone to though so that's most likely what it would take.

I'm not sure how credible Kobblehead is as a poster but he pretty much said Philly would strongly consider something surrounding Bargs + Barbosa for Iggy + filler. Personally, I do the deal. Sure, Iggy is overpaid, but his contract is no worse than Bargnani's. We also get something for Leandro instead of just letting him walk away. I think a wing combo of DeRozan/Iguodala could be a big problem in the Eastern Conference especially depending on who we pick in the 2011 and 2012 drafts. Imagine scenarios such as:

Irving/DeRozan/Iguodala/Davis/Centre? OR Bayless/DeRozan/Iguodala/Davis/Kanter

BAWS!

The floor spacing would be terrible with either one of your proposed starting 5s. I like Iggy as a player but he would be a horrible fit next to Derozan because niether one of them can stretch the D with shooting and there would be nobody else on the roster who could do it either.

I do think Bargs for Iggy type trade is something the Sixers would consider. Bargs game would compliment that team well.....a big that can stretch the D would really open the floor for guys like Holiday-Turner-Young-Williams to do their damage. Bargs' weaknesses as a defender also wouldn't be as big of a problem in Philly because they have strong perimeter defenders...something the Raptors havent had in a long time.

Could Iggy be moved in some sort of 3-way to get the Raptors a younger asset?

[Ducksplatt]

They really don't want Speights either. We pretty much take their problems and give them some cap space while acquiring one of the best wing defenders in the league. A DeRozan/Iguodala wing combo is only second/third to Boston & Miami in the East.

I don't think they feel that having, as you said, one of the best wing defenders in the league is a problem. And Speights only makes 2.7 million next year (as opposed to Barbosa's 7.6).

Listen, I don't want to get in a p*ssing match with everyone here but you are overvaluing Bargs and undervaluing Iggy. Why don't you post this trade on the trade forum board to see what Philly fans want. From everything I hear, they want a high draft pick or a all-star like Iggy. I would not put Bargs in that latter category.

[Silk Wilkes]

They really don't want Speights either. We pretty much take their problems and give them some cap space while acquiring one of the best wing defenders in the league. A DeRozan/Iguodala wing combo is only second/third to Boston & Miami in the East.

I don't think they feel that having, as you said, one of the best wing defenders in the league is a problem. And Speights only makes 2.7 million next year (as opposed to Barbosa's 7.6).

Listen, I don't want to get in a p*ssing match with everyone here but you are overvaluing Bargs and undervaluing Iggy. Why don't you post this trade on the trade forum board to see what Philly fans want. From everything I hear, they want a high draft pick or a all-star like Iggy. I would not put Bargs in that latter category.

If you took the time to actually read previous posts you'd know that this idea has already been discussed on the Sixers board.

[Silk Wilkes]

That's probably what it would take to get Thorn's attention. Not sure it would be the best offer we would get. Probably in the top 3 of offers. I have suspicions that Thorn would want to hammer down a 2012 pick in negotiations. I don't think you guys want to overpay to land Andre. Thorn will get someone to though so that's most likely what it would take.

I'm not sure how credible Kobblehead is as a poster but he pretty much said Philly would strongly consider something surrounding Bargs + Barbosa for Iggy + filler. Personally, I do the deal. Sure, Iggy is overpaid, but his contract is no worse than Bargnani's. We also get something for Leandro instead of just letting him walk away. I think a wing combo of DeRozan/Iguodala could be a big problem in the Eastern Conference especially depending on who we pick in the 2011 and 2012 drafts. Imagine scenarios such as:

Irving/DeRozan/Iguodala/Davis/Centre? OR Bayless/DeRozan/Iguodala/Davis/Kanter

BAWS!

The floor spacing would be terrible with either one of your proposed starting 5s. I like Iggy as a player but he would be a horrible fit next to Derozan because niether one of them can stretch the D with shooting and there would be nobody else on the roster who could do it either.

I do think Bargs for Iggy type trade is something the Sixers would consider. Bargs game would compliment that team well.....a big that can stretch the D would really open the floor for guys like Holiday-Turner-Young-Williams to do their damage. Bargs' weaknesses as a defender also wouldn't be as big of a problem in Philly because they have strong perimeter defenders...something the Raptors havent had in a long time.

Could Iggy be moved in some sort of 3-way to get the Raptors a younger asset?

We're not going for the title right now. DeMar and Iggy would have to grow over the next couple of years. Also, DeMar us likely to add a 3 point shot to keep defenses honest so I wouldn't worry about it.

[Rapsobsessed7]

what about this. Only if DAL re-signs Chandler

To TOR: Biedrins + D.Jones + Bell
To GSW: Haywood + Klezia
To DAL: Calderon + TOR 2012 2nd Round Pick + NJ 2012 2nd Round Pick (via GSW)

Warriors take a chance on haywood being more defensive and a better fit than Biedrins. They get some depth at the 3 with Klezia too.

Dallas gets a PG that can come off the bench for kidd and eventually be his successor. DAL gets 2 pretty earlier 2nd rounders for a guy in Jones who doesnt play (hes needed to match salaries though) and they would make room for Chandler.

Raptors get a young C in Biedrins, a former 1st round pick in Jones and an expiring in Bell

[theSkinny]

So is there any trade ideas we HAVENT covered in here yet?

[Raptors2011Fan]

i want Paul George on this team. Hes been nasty in the playoffs.

Bargnani, Klezia for Posey, Jones, George

??

pacers need a big that can shoot and be a second scorer to Granger. Hibbert is also a defensive C

raps need improvement at the 3 position with Georges ability to knock down 3s that helps us in that area.

Bayless
Demar
George
Davis
Kanter (3?) i like Bismack too but everyones sayin dont reach on him and have Kanter at 3. He does fit beside ed tho

think ind does it?

[bboyskinnylegs]

^^ I don't think the Pacers want to take on Kleiza at all, we don't even know when he's coming back. Not sure what direction the Pacers will want to take after this playoff series, or if they even want Bargs at PF for them, but personally I think they're more likely to try and move Granger than George.

[Silk Wilkes]

^^ I don't think the Pacers want to take on Kleiza at all, we don't even know when he's coming back. Not sure what direction the Pacers will want to take after this playoff series, or if they even want Bargs at PF for them, but personally I think they're more likely to try and move Granger than George.

Agreed. Paul George is a pipe dream. He would be extremely costly at this point.

[HomieOmey]

6 points on 32% shooting with 6 boards per game is "nasty?"

[Rapsobsessed7]

does anyone think Davis could be traded to bring that defensive C to put beside Bargnani?

Id obviously rather Andrea traded but have we discussed the possibility of Amir or Davis being shipped out?