2010-11 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread

[Silk Wilkes]

I'm not sure about the Knight/DeRozan back court of the future. Where does the passing come from?

James Johnson, playing some point forward.

That's fine in spurts but not near enough.

[kingkyrie]

I would look to package Bargnani and Bayless while their stocks are still up. Even though Bargs had a horrendous defensive season, they are offensively challenged teams liked Milwaukee and Washington that would be a good fit for him.

[arbsn]

TORONTO TRADES: Linas Kleiza $20m/4 + Trade Exception
DALLAS TRADES: Brandon Haywood $48m/5 + 2012 lottery protected 1st rd pick

It gives Dallas $28 million in long term cap relief to help resign Tyson Chandler and Caron Butler

It gives Toronto a true Center for around $5m/season (Kleiza's contract is essentially useless). We are basically paying $28m for a 1st round pick and a true C who is tough that Dallas really doesn't need with Chandler.



Not necessarily a great trade, just helps solve some problems and create some future potential.

[Zuul]

Haven't read through all 90 something pages but here goes:

Trade Bargnani for Nene.
If you don't have a pick in the top 3 trade the pick for Ricky Rubio
Sign Dalembert to the full MLE
Take 6 months off in Bali during the lockout

Rubio Calderon
DeRozen Barbosa
Johnson Kleiza
Davis Johnson
Nene Dalembert

[WhatsaTDot]

Haven't read through all 90 something pages but here goes:

Trade Bargnani for Nene.
If you don't have a pick in the top 3 trade the pick for Ricky Rubio
Sign Dalembert to the full MLE
Take 6 months off in Bali during the lockout

Rubio Calderon
DeRozen Barbosa
Johnson Kleiza
Davis Johnson
Nene Dalembert

It takes two to tango - why oh why would Denver trade us Nene for Bargnani?

[Rapsfan07]

something that could affect this trade would be Odens BYC status. I know its if you get a raise of 20% but the new CBA could change so that could be different. I dont know either if its 20% from your QO or 20% from your previous salary.

Anyways here it is.

To TOR: Greg Oden (S&T 9 million, 3 years) + JJ Reddick + Daniel Orton
To POR: Brandon Bass + Chris Duhon
To ORL: Andrea Bargnani + Leandro Barbosa

POR gets a backup PG and a young PF in Bass who can play alongside Aldridge if he switches to C. They get something for Oden back vs paying him that salary for a while.

ORL gets Bargnani + Barbosa replaces Reddick

TOR gets defense, 3 point shooting and a young big.

- draft Kyrie Irving (because we luck into the top 2)

Irving / Bayless
Derozan / Reddick
Johnson / Klezia
Davis / Amir
Oden / Orton

+ Calderon for scraps like Walton + Blake (sent to 3rd team for a big)

Thats a very intriguing trade, however in today's game it is a near necessity to have a perimeter threat in the starting line up otherwise movement on offense will suffer and the defense can focus primarily on shutting down the paint.

I'd do this.

I think Bayless can be a legit top-15 PG in the league. He has the skillset. Sure he looks to score but so does Westbrooke and Rose. Let's seem him run this club next season and then we'll see where he fits in the future.

Regarding trades this offseason, I hope it our ownership situation doesn't affect our trades. If there was an offseason we need to be productive at EVERYTHING, its this one. I think the Kings or the Magics would be good trading partners based on the pieces we have.

[Serious_P]

I think this is the perfect example of trading down the pick. This is only if we get the 3rd pick.
Two trades with Utah.

1st Trade
Raps get: Al Jefferson
Utah gets: Bargnani
2nd Trade
Raps get: 6th pick(Bismack Biyombo or Kemba Walker), 12th pick(Kawhi Leonard,Tristan Thompson,Terrance Jones,or Jordan Hamilton), and Okur
Utah gets: 3rd pick(Enes Kanter) and Jose Calderon

This helps both teams realistically get rid of bad contracts that could produce on the other respectable team. Utah gets a center in Bargnani to put Favors in the starting lineup at pf and can help Bargnani's deficiencies in rebounding and help defense. Calderon would be a perfect pg to come off the bench and run P'n'Rolls with Milsap and get others involved for bench efficiency while getting a young Kanter to play center. Raptors get Al Jefferson to play center who is better than Bargnani and he'll have Ed davis start beside him for help defence. Then whoever we pick at 6th could benefit us anyhow Kemba or Knight could start while Biyombo could come off the bench while Bayless starts and the 12th pick is a good value to add someone young to our core. Next year gonna have some good players becoming free agents to make a push for even draft some good players.

[Rapsobsessed7]

I think this is the perfect example of trading down the pick. This is only if we get the 3rd pick.
Two trades with Utah.

1st Trade
Raps get: Al Jefferson
Utah gets: Bargnani
2nd Trade
Raps get: 6th pick(Bismack Biyombo or Kemba Walker), 12th pick(Kawhi Leonard,Tristan Thompson,Terrance Jones,or Jordan Hamilton), and Okur
Utah gets: 3rd pick(Enes Kanter) and Jose Calderon

This helps both teams realistically get rid of bad contracts that could produce on the other respectable team. Utah gets a center in Bargnani to put Favors in the starting lineup at pf and can help Bargnani's deficiencies in rebounding and help defense. Calderon would be a perfect pg to come off the bench and run P'n'Rolls with Milsap and get others involved for bench efficiency while getting a young Kanter to play center. Raptors get Al Jefferson to play center who is better than Bargnani and he'll have Ed davis start beside him for help defence. Then whoever we pick at 6th could benefit us anyhow Kemba or Knight could start while Biyombo could come off the bench while Bayless starts and the 12th pick is a good value to add someone young to our core. Next year gonna have some good players becoming free agents to make a push for even draft some good players.

HIGHLY doubt Utah does that. They would rather have Jefferson than Bargnani, rather have Okurs expiring than Calderons 10.5 + million that would remain on the cap. No way they do it. I wish but they wont.

[Serious_P]

I think this is the perfect example of trading down the pick. This is only if we get the 3rd pick.
Two trades with Utah.

1st Trade
Raps get: Al Jefferson
Utah gets: Bargnani
2nd Trade
Raps get: 6th pick(Bismack Biyombo or Kemba Walker), 12th pick(Kawhi Leonard,Tristan Thompson,Terrance Jones,or Jordan Hamilton), and Okur
Utah gets: 3rd pick(Enes Kanter) and Jose Calderon

This helps both teams realistically get rid of bad contracts that could produce on the other respectable team. Utah gets a center in Bargnani to put Favors in the starting lineup at pf and can help Bargnani's deficiencies in rebounding and help defense. Calderon would be a perfect pg to come off the bench and run P'n'Rolls with Milsap and get others involved for bench efficiency while getting a young Kanter to play center. Raptors get Al Jefferson to play center who is better than Bargnani and he'll have Ed davis start beside him for help defence. Then whoever we pick at 6th could benefit us anyhow Kemba or Knight could start while Biyombo could come off the bench while Bayless starts and the 12th pick is a good value to add someone young to our core. Next year gonna have some good players becoming free agents to make a push for even draft some good players.

HIGHLY doubt Utah does that. They would rather have Jefferson than Bargnani, rather have Okurs expiring than Calderons 10.5 + million that would remain on the cap. No way they do it. I wish but they wont.

I hear that but wouldn't they rather have Calderon as a good backup for another year than have Okur expire he would give more production to the bench. Al Jefferson is a power forward playing center but they don't have derrick favors playing to help him out down there while we could have him at center with Ed Davis or Amir Johnson. I look at them getting rid of Jefferson to stop that pf gap and let Favors start and become better and can have Kanter start beside him or Bargnani. That gives people more of a chance to become better not only as players but as teammates its good all around youth building.

[elmer_yuck]

I think this is the perfect example of trading down the pick. This is only if we get the 3rd pick.
Two trades with Utah.

1st Trade
Raps get: Al Jefferson
Utah gets: Bargnani
2nd Trade
Raps get: 6th pick(Bismack Biyombo or Kemba Walker), 12th pick(Kawhi Leonard,Tristan Thompson,Terrance Jones,or Jordan Hamilton), and Okur
Utah gets: 3rd pick(Enes Kanter) and Jose Calderon

This helps both teams realistically get rid of bad contracts that could produce on the other respectable team. Utah gets a center in Bargnani to put Favors in the starting lineup at pf and can help Bargnani's deficiencies in rebounding and help defense. Calderon would be a perfect pg to come off the bench and run P'n'Rolls with Milsap and get others involved for bench efficiency while getting a young Kanter to play center. Raptors get Al Jefferson to play center who is better than Bargnani and he'll have Ed davis start beside him for help defence. Then whoever we pick at 6th could benefit us anyhow Kemba or Knight could start while Biyombo could come off the bench while Bayless starts and the 12th pick is a good value to add someone young to our core. Next year gonna have some good players becoming free agents to make a push for even draft some good players.

So Utah trades Jefferson straight up for Bargnani, but even you say Jefferson is better than Bargnani.
So why would Utah trade Jefferson straight up for a worse player.
Use your head before you write this nonsense.

[Serious_P]

I think this is the perfect example of trading down the pick. This is only if we get the 3rd pick.
Two trades with Utah.

1st Trade
Raps get: Al Jefferson
Utah gets: Bargnani
2nd Trade
Raps get: 6th pick(Bismack Biyombo or Kemba Walker), 12th pick(Kawhi Leonard,Tristan Thompson,Terrance Jones,or Jordan Hamilton), and Okur
Utah gets: 3rd pick(Enes Kanter) and Jose Calderon

This helps both teams realistically get rid of bad contracts that could produce on the other respectable team. Utah gets a center in Bargnani to put Favors in the starting lineup at pf and can help Bargnani's deficiencies in rebounding and help defense. Calderon would be a perfect pg to come off the bench and run P'n'Rolls with Milsap and get others involved for bench efficiency while getting a young Kanter to play center. Raptors get Al Jefferson to play center who is better than Bargnani and he'll have Ed davis start beside him for help defence. Then whoever we pick at 6th could benefit us anyhow Kemba or Knight could start while Biyombo could come off the bench while Bayless starts and the 12th pick is a good value to add someone young to our core. Next year gonna have some good players becoming free agents to make a push for even draft some good players.

So Utah trades Jefferson straight up for Bargnani, but even you say Jefferson is better than Bargnani.
So why would Utah trade Jefferson straight up for a worse player.
Use your head before you write this nonsense.

If you get what I was saying and read it properly than you would understand instead of being an ignorant ****. Jefferson is a pf they have two of those one who is young and needs time to develop and will become a really good player possibly better than Jefferson. With all this said the trade is broken up into two trades but its focused on both at the same time and trading Jefferson for Barganani while getting Kanter any of them could play center more so Kanter. Bargnani being able to play center over there and having Favors start with him to help his deficiencies and have Kanter or Milsap off the bench as their 6th man. While getting Calderon who is a good assist to turnover point guard to come off the bench and help their bench production make it a really good trade. plus they also get rid of a high paid Okur in this trade who has had injuries and really hasn't played in the last two years while Calderon will and help them.

[Rapsobsessed7]

What about this

To TOR: Jennings + Maggette + Mozgov
To MIL: Felton + Bargnani + #22
To DEN: Calderon + Irsan + #10

Clippers traded a pick around #8 to dump money in Davis that's more than Calderon. Den gets into the lottery but also gets Irsan who wants more of a role and he gets that in DEN. Felton wants out, wants to start so the Bucks take him. DEN need a young PF and he Is only 23

TOR gets a young PG who's best friends with Demar and a C prospect

Bucks get a playoff ready lineup.

I would then do Maggette for Diop + Najera and just get rid of him. He serves no purpose this deal saves 3 million in 2012/2013

Felton / Smith (#22) / Dooling
Salmons / MLE / 2nd Round
Delfino / Moute
Bargnani / Gooden / Brockman
Bogut / Sanders / C (Bi-annual)

Jennings / Bayless / PG
Derozan / Barbosa
Johnson / Klezia / Najera
Davis / Amir / Diop
Kanter / Mozgov / Alabi

Lawson / Calderon
Chandler / AA
Gallo / T.Jones (#10)
Irsan / Harrington
Nene / Andersen / Koufos

I think this really helps everyone. Felton is only 26, Bargnani 25. So the bucks go for the playoffs while Bogut is in his prime. This helps their shooting that the GM wanted to fix. I really like it for them

DEN getting a guy like Thompson/Burks/T.Jones would be good for them

Najera could play till Klezia is ready to go

[WhatsaTDot]

I'm not real keen on Timofey 'Your balls are sweaty Blake' Mozgov, nor Magette nor Diop/Najera and I'm not sure Denver sees much value in trading those pieces for a #10 pick, Calderon and Ersan. Isn't Ersan a 3 more than he's a 4 too which creates a bit of a glut for Denver.

[Rapsfan07]

Here's something:

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/05/02/359376 ... =Kings/NBA

It sounds like the Kings are looking to use other methods to add pieces to their team, At the end of the interview, Petrie says:

I think we need another creator, ballhandler. We need some more leadership on the court, either by the form of maturity or addition to the roster. Certainly we need to try to improve our three-point shooting, which fell off from a year ago. … We'll have to look to fill out our roster with another frontcourt player of some kind.

Bargnani and Calderon fit this bill to the tee. Both can add the three-point shooting they lack abd Jose brings the veteran leadership, ball handling and creation skills they're looking for. We're trying to get rid of them so a deal involving them to the Kings, I think would be an ideal move. Maybe something like:

To SAC: Bargnani, Calderon, Evans (resigned), some Bosh TPE/Barbosa/Amir
To TOR: Dalembert (resigned), Garcia, Udrih, SAC 2012 1st

The Kings are at $27,623,889 for the 11/12 season so far. In this trade, they dump the contracts of Garcia and Udrih ($13,032,500 combined) for Andrea and Jose ($18,780,993 combined). They spend about 5 million more dollars immediately on two players who more directly address their needs. Dalembert will sign a more expensive contract than Evans so we'll be taking back more salary there. Toronto would be a vet C in Dalembert, some off the bench scoring in Garcia and some veteran leadership at PG with Udrih. I'd send Barbosa or Amir their way if I had to but I prefer to just absorb one of Garcia or Udrih in to the TPE. Plus they still have room to make a good signing in FA. The real incentive out of this deal for Toronto would be the 2012 pick though.

I like this but do you think Sacramento does it?

[WhatsaTDot]

I like it even if we throw in Amir but I dont see Sac giving us that coveted 2012 pick.

[Qdogg17]

Draft Day Trade:

To Charlotte-
3rd pick(Enes Kanter)
Jose Calderon
Future 2nd

To Toronto-
9th pick(Brandon Knight or Kemba Walker)
19th pick(Bismack Biyombo)
39th pick(David Lighty)
Boris Diaw

Charlotte fills 2 needs.
Raps gets 3 prospects in a weak draft and 1 year off Calderon's contract.

Sign and Trade:

To Denver-
Linas Kleiza
TPE(appr 5.4 mil)

To Toronto-
Wilson Chandler(signed-10 mil per/5years)

This only happens if Raps overpay and Chandler agrees to leave Denver, giving them no choice but to except what they can as a replacement. Kleiza is also someone they drafted and are familiar with.

Wish List:

Ed Davis bulks up and gets stronger, like his father had mentioned. He starts at center for the Raps.

Derozan works on his 3 point shot, ball handling and gets stronger

Bargnani is sent to the bench or traded.

Raps sign Bobby Brown for PG insurance

Final Roster:

C- Davis/Bargnani/Alabi
PF- A.Johnson/Diaw/Biyombo
SF- Chandler/J.Johnson/Lighty
SG- Derozan/Barbosa/Lighty
PG- Knight/Bayless/Brown

[bboyskinnylegs]

^^ I prefer quality over quantity...both Knight/Walker will very likely be gone at #9, and I can just about guarantee that as long as Biyombo doesn't injure himself (or we find out he's 25+) he's going to be long gone by the #19 pick.

[Leolovinliberal]

Draft Day Trade:

To Charlotte-
3rd pick(Enes Kanter)
Jose Calderon
Future 2nd

To Toronto-
9th pick(Brandon Knight or Kemba Walker)
19th pick(Bismack Biyombo)
39th pick(David Lighty)
Boris Diaw

Charlotte fills 2 needs.
Raps gets 3 prospects in a weak draft and 1 year off Calderon's contract.

Sign and Trade:

To Denver-
Linas Kleiza
TPE(appr 5.4 mil)

To Toronto-
Wilson Chandler(signed-10 mil per/5years)

This only happens if Raps overpay and Chandler agrees to leave Denver, giving them no choice but to except what they can as a replacement. Kleiza is also someone they drafted and are familiar with.

Wish List:

Ed Davis bulks up and gets stronger, like his father had mentioned. He starts at center for the Raps.

Derozan works on his 3 point shot, ball handling and gets stronger

Bargnani is sent to the bench or traded.

Raps sign Bobby Brown for PG insurance

Final Roster:

C- Davis/Bargnani/Alabi
PF- A.Johnson/Diaw/Biyombo
SF- Chandler/J.Johnson/Lighty
SG- Derozan/Barbosa/Lighty
PG- Knight/Bayless/Brown

Bitchsmack will not even be close to being available at # 19, probably not even at 9.

[Serious_P]

Here me out on this one people Mavericks need some cap space to sign a player with the MLE and sign back Chandler and i believe this deal does so. Also in this deal I'm about to propose raps need a center and I believe this help them out big.

Raps Trade to Dallas: Andrea Bargnani - 8.5/4 years
Amir Johnson - 5 mil/4 years
=13.5 mil outgoing to Dallas

Dallas to Toronto: S&Traded Caron Butler - 8 mil/3 years
Brendan Haywood - 6.9 mil/5 years (very reasonable center if we can't get one through free agency)
=15.9 mil incoming to Toronto

Raps get the first round pick or 2nd look at the possible lineup.

Kyrie Irving(1st round pick)/Jerryd Bayless/
Demar DeRozan/Leandro Barbosa
Caron Butler/James Johnson
Ed Davis/Reggie Evans or Joey Dorsey or sign someone to the MLE here whatever u fans want even diaw for calderon could work here
Brendan Haywood/Samuel Dalembert(S&Traded for Jose Calderon 6.5 mil/2 years)

[Serious_P]

This is a thought if T'Wolves wanna trade their pick.

T'Wolves Trade to Raptors: Jonny Flynn - 3.12/2 years
Darko Milicic - 4.325/3 years
Martell Webster - 4.8/2 years
Luke Ridnour - 3 mil/3 years
2011 1st round pick
Cash considerations(3 mil not included in the total going to Toronto)
=16.317 mil going to Raptors

Raptors Trade to T'Wolves: Andrea Bargnani - 8.5/4 years
Jose Calderon - 9 mil/2 years
James Johnson - 1.713/2 years
TPE - 4.8 mil
option to swap picks in 2012-14
Future 2nd round pick
=24.013 mil going to T'Wolves

Reasoning behind this for the people who say why would Minnesota do this? Simply because this draft is weak especially for them. This is a top 2 draft with those two top players being spots they already have filled, and to pay a guy with so much potential the rookie max for a 1st pick would be pointless. Especially as most of there players are young and top 5 players from three or 4 straight years which isn't panning out for them. So instead of doing it this year they trade for Bargnani who would start, and Calderon who would help Rubio with his game and serve as a good backup pg to give them efficiency of the bench, while also picking up Johnson and a TPE. Think of it as Flynn and Ridnour your turning into Calderon, and Webster and Milicic your turning into Bargnani. Then the T'Wolves 2011 1st round pick and cash considerations for TPE(4.8 mil) future 2nd and choice to swap picks 2012-2014

Raptors grasp a chance to also help them in their rebuilding as trades and FA signings having really done well for them. This trade allows them to possibly get two of the top 5 picks preferably Irving and Williams but Irving and Kanter is not that bad either. We add 6 or so mil but worth the money to get a 1st,2nd,or 3rd pick while getting cash considerations and rid of Bargnani and Calderon's horrendous defense. I would give whoever gonna comment the option of giving them our pick depending on if you think Toronto's getting too much value and upside to this trade.

Raps Potential Lineup
(Kyrie Irving #1pick possibly)/Jerryd Bayless/Johnny Flynn/Luke Ridnour(willing to trade him and Barbosa for a young three point shooting shooting guard maybe to Sac for Thorton)
Demar DeRozan/Leandro Barbosa/
(Derrick Williams #2pick possibly)/Martell Webster/Linas Kleiza
Ed Davis/Amir Johnson
(Enes Kanter #3pick possibly)/Darko Milicic/Alabi

Still young has lots of potential to become a contender and a team for possibly anything to happen in terms of stars,6th man, and role players. The only uncertainty after all this is where the balls land and who becomes the star or stars.