Miami (2) vs. Boston (3) Continued

[irie]

Karma is a what, LeBron? Oh yeah, that's right. This is the guy people are defending and calling Dwyane Wade dirty?

What does Rondo's play on Hinrich years ago have to do with Wade taking down Rondo? Nothing.

It's quite simple really. Dwyane Wade's take-down was dirty, but not malicious. I will agree to that. Some people are viewing as though Wade is the only villain in dirty play and the Celtics are saints. That clearly isn't the case. First of all, this is playoff basketball. People play dirty. Second of all, the Celtics are just as dirty. So the hate on Wade's dirty play is way overstated. I'm pretty sure mostly everyone will agree that Dwyane Wade's play was dirty, but this happens all the time and shouldn't be such a big deal.

I'll have to go back and look for those posts where people were saying Celtics players aren't dirty.. I missed those I guess. So I guess you'd agree with me then, both Wade's "dirty" play and Rondo's "dirty" play from 2 years ago are both being overstated here. Neither are really worth this much discussion. And for something to come up from 2 years ago as justification for a player having a dirty play occur to them is irrational.

[Vertical Limit]

You can easily tell who's played ball before and who hasn't. I think Lebron called everyone on this board (Please Use More Appropriate Word), not just the reporter.

[calamity]

it was intentional. point blank. I doubt he was trying to injure him that way or even imagined it would be the outcome. but there really wasn't a reason to pull him down at all. easily preventable. like I said he does it all the time but this time it showed how dangerous that **** can be. PEACE.

Wade's left leg goes out, and his right leg is trapped in front of Rondo's left. Where was Wade going? Down. With his right arm locked-up with Rondo's, what should he have done? Did you miss the part where Rondo's right elbow clamps down on Wade's right arm by his waist?

IOW, they got tangled. Look at the 59 second mark here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC7xFDMXdZc

Rondo and Wade got tangled-up. The calls of a dirty play right now are right up there with the complaints about the officiating. This is just an incidental part of the game. If Rondo doesn't play Wade that physical, they don't fall and no one gets hurt. But it's understandable why he played him that way, and so sometimes **** happens. How is that intentional? PEACE.

from what I see he intentionally pulls him down. but you are of course gonna see what you want to see cause he's a top player on your team. the only reason they got tangled is cause he was preventing him from proceeding out by taking him down. It was preventable and that is why it pisses me off. Let's agree to disagree.

[Zasterror]

If Wade REALLY did a dirty play and Rondo REALLY was the victim of that fall, you guys REALLY think Wade meant to hurt Rondo? GTFO.

[Fantaxp7]

If Wade REALLY did a dirty play and Rondo REALLY was the victim of that fall, you guys REALLY think Wade meant to hurt Rondo? GTFO.

Umm no, no one thinks that Wade meant to hurt Rondo.

But yes, Wade purposely pulled down Rondo.

[jman3134]

I personally thought it was a dirty play and that there should have been repercussions, especially when people get technical fouls in this league for talking. If you are going to have consistent rules that soften the game, you can't allow what happened last night.

[Fantaxp7]

I personally thought it was a dirty play and that there should have been repercussions, especially when people get technical fouls in this league for talking. If you are going to have consistent rules that soften the game, you can't allow what happened last night.

Exactly.

And I can certainly understand why it was called the way it was, however, I think the league should review it.

As people have stated, 99% of the time on an intentional play like that, no one is hurt. But the fact is that it was intentional and it did result in a semi major injury. That should warrant something, some sort of an upgrade.

[calamity]

If Wade REALLY did a dirty play and Rondo REALLY was the victim of that fall, you guys REALLY think Wade meant to hurt Rondo? GTFO.

Umm no, no one thinks that Wade meant to hurt Rondo.

But yes, Wade purposely pulled down Rondo.

this..I don't think anyone said he meant to hurt him. people reading things they way the want to.

[Pimpwerx]

Are some of you serious? You guys complained about officiating in the first 2 games, and now you're calling Wade dirty for getting tripped by Rondo? WTF is wrong with you guys?

Did we complain about dirty play when KG shouldered Miller in the head during the season? This is a sport. Grow a goddamn pair. You guys probably call technical fouls in pickup games. PEACE.

[20MexicanosIn1Van]

I said it before in this thread during the game, but it got kinda lost in the shuffle. But if Artest got suspended for his thing with JJ, Wade should get suspended as well. He didn't mean to hurt him, but neither did Artest. The only different between the two plays was that one was much more obvious than the other. Definitely won't happen though.

[calamity]

I said it before in this thread during the game, but it got kinda lost in the shuffle. But if Artest got suspended for his thing with JJ, Wade should get suspended as well. He didn't mean to hurt him, but neither did Artest. The only different between the two plays was that one was much more obvious than the other. Definitely won't happen though.

agree wholeheartedly

[irie]

I said it before in this thread during the game, but it got kinda lost in the shuffle. But if Artest got suspended for his thing with JJ, Wade should get suspended as well. He didn't mean to hurt him, but neither did Artest. The only different between the two plays was that one was much more obvious than the other. Definitely won't happen though.

I personally think there's a big difference between the two plays. Swinging at someone's head region is a lot different from pulling someone to the ground who has been frustrating you with what looks like some hooking from Rondo. Wade probably should have been assessed a technical, and the game continued. I really doubt the league will suspend Wade, and I'm glad. The best basketball is when there are no excuses for losing.

[Studemire1]

So the Celtics are allowed to poke at people eyes, set illegal screens and hold players by the arm, and dive into players for fouls, but when someone gets hurt (even if it isn't Wade's fault that Rondo positioned his arm like that.) everybody calls the Heat dirty. BFS

Wow this post is so laughable, and seems to be the general opinion of all Heat fans.

You're not getting it. The Celtics play dirty a lot for sure, but do they not have a huge rep for playing that way already? They're always getting criticized for being a dirty team, especially KG...

Wade played dirty on that play, so now he'll get criticized for being a dirty player. It's exactly what you'd expect to happen based on what your post says. Deal with it.


(You could clearly tell Wade was mad that game though. so it was probably just an in-the-moment type thing that he did but the fact remains that he was dirty on that particular play and caused Rondo to get injured, so that doesn't help)

[jl342323]

i had alot of respect for what rondo did yesterday but i totally forgot about that incident with kirk hinrich

[Studemire1]

If Wade REALLY did a dirty play and Rondo REALLY was the victim of that fall, you guys REALLY think Wade meant to hurt Rondo? GTFO.

Hopefully not for their sake because Delonte was kinda torching them off the bench and it got Rondo coming back playing with a fire under him that we haven't seen from him so far this series...

But seriously, of course he most likely didn't intend to hurt Rondo, and no one is really thinking that. It was dirty but pretty clearly not done with injury intentions.

[Swindle]

It was very odd the way Miami dropped that last game in the second half. I expect the Heat to regain their sense of urgency next game. Heat in 5.

As for the Wade throwing down Rondo thing.. On the replay it looks like Rondo had his forearm up high in the back of Wade's head and neck. That's the Celtic's "MO". They frustrate and irritate the other team with their physical play. Rondo knows Wade is a bit of a hothead and he got the reaction he wanted and drew the foul from Wade. Rondo just ended up landing funny which is unfortunate and you hate to see that.

[INKtastic]

I wonder if so many heat fans would be defending the play had Rondo pulled Wade down and it was Wade that hurt his arm?

[KGboss]

I wonder if so many heat fans would be defending the play had Rondo pulled Wade down and it was Wade that hurt his arm?

Hell no they wouldn't. They would be asking for Rondo to be suspended until next week. Which is why I have been laughing at all of these posts all morning.

[Fantaxp7]

I wonder if so many heat fans would be defending the play had Rondo pulled Wade down and it was Wade that hurt his arm?

Hell no they wouldn't. They would be asking for Rondo to be suspended until next week. Which is why I have been laughing at all of these posts all morning.

Seriously, it would be far more accepted at the notion of Rondo being a dirty player. And that Heinrich clip would be relevant.

It so dumb that all you heat fans cringe at the thought of your poster boy in Wade is capable of even committing a dirty play. It is a bit excessive to call him a dirty player, but he did what he did and got caught.

Once you get caught you are under the radar and fans tend to notice the little dirty or aggressive plays.

[Swindle]

I wonder if so many heat fans would be defending the play had Rondo pulled Wade down and it was Wade that hurt his arm?

Hell no they wouldn't. They would be asking for Rondo to be suspended until next week. Which is why I have been laughing at all of these posts all morning.

Seriously, it would be far more accepted at the notion of Rondo being a dirty player. And that Heinrich clip would be relevant.

It so dumb that all you heat fans cringe at the thought of your poster boy in Wade is capable of even committing a dirty play. It is a bit excessive to call him a dirty player, but he did what he did and got caught.

Once you get caught you are under the radar and fans tend to notice the little dirty or aggressive
plays.

I'm a Heat fan, and I think Wade meant to throw down Rondo. Seriously injure him? Probably not. But please don't act like Rondo wasn't doing anything to provoke the reaction he got. Getting under the skin of the other team is Boston Celtics Basketball.