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Re: Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread 

Post#1101 » by roma258 » Mon May 9, 2011 9:01 pm

KrazySixersD wrote:memphis i think would do it because they are winning without him right now, and their coach values defense.. which iguodala is better at than gay

That's how I see it too. I hope Denver does it. I actually think it's a mutually beneficial trade and Memphis becomes an even scarier team in the west.
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Post#1102 » by Sixersftw » Mon May 9, 2011 9:02 pm

drsd wrote:Magic fan here:


And for a new topic; how many tickets would Nelson sell in Philly? I ask because Orlando fans assume that Nelson would be part of any Iggy deal. So, financially, what is Jameer ticket-gate sales worth to the Sixers?

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nothing. absolutely nothing.

the only thing that brings fans to WFC arena is winning and Jameer isn't bringing that. If A.I. didn't provide a significant bump in attendance 2 years ago than Jameer wont.
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Re: Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread 

Post#1103 » by roma258 » Mon May 9, 2011 9:05 pm

drsd wrote:Magic fan here:
Whereas I do not agree that the Magic lack tradeable assets, I do agree that the Sixers could get a much better deal for Andre Iguodala than whatever Orlando would offer.

But the Magic might be genuinely looking for a new starting PF. And the Sixers look to dump payroll and rebuild around youth. This is where Brand for Bass and Anderson comes in as a concept. Philly gets two looks at young talent; and gets to unload a blotted contract.

And for a new topic; how many tickets would Nelson sell in Philly? I ask because Orlando fans assume that Nelson would be part of any Iggy deal. So, financially, what is Jameer ticket-gate sales worth to the Sixers?

Taking all the above together, money will impact how the Sixers ship Andre Iguodala. This decision will not be soley about matched assets.

The Brand for Bass and Anderson trade is something I imagine the Sixers would look at. Anderson has torched them this season. Forget about Jameer to Philly, it's not happening. We've got the point guard of the future in Jrue. Magic has nothing that will get them Iggy, assuming his value around the league is what it should be.
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Post#1104 » by KrazySixersD » Mon May 9, 2011 9:08 pm

so many magic fans think jameer makes sense here??? WHY??? we already have a better PG in holiday.. and hes MUCH younger

only reason i would trade brand for those 2 you mentioned is to get out of his contract, but that makes us a much worse team
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Re: Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread 

Post#1105 » by underpressure » Mon May 9, 2011 9:18 pm

Brand has two years left. His contract is not an albatross anymore.

And I think the past years have proven that financial considerations have at best minor implications for the Sixers. Otherwise we would have dealt him since the first rumors surfaced.
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Post#1106 » by PH1LLYSFINEST13 » Mon May 9, 2011 9:40 pm

drsd wrote:Magic fan here:
Whereas I do not agree that the Magic lack tradeable assets, I do agree that the Sixers could get a much better deal for Andre Iguodala than whatever Orlando would offer.

But the Magic might be genuinely looking for a new starting PF. And the Sixers look to dump payroll and rebuild around youth. This is where Brand for Bass and Anderson comes in as a concept. Philly gets two looks at young talent; and gets to unload a blotted contract.

And for a new topic; how many tickets would Nelson sell in Philly? I ask because Orlando fans assume that Nelson would be part of any Iggy deal. So, financially, what is Jameer ticket-gate sales worth to the Sixers?

Taking all the above together, money will impact how the Sixers ship Andre Iguodala. This decision will not be soley about matched assets.


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Cant lie , I kinda like this. While I LOVE what EB did for us last year , And the character he brings to the team , Bass kinda has a similar game to EB with the 15 foot mid range. He also hustles and has some great spring. Then you have Ryan Anderson who is a stretch 4 which we kinda already have in hawes and if brackins runs the 4 I hear he can shoot. I dont really see this deal happening but I am intrigued by it.
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Post#1107 » by Gus McCrae » Mon May 9, 2011 9:41 pm

Pau Gasol for Iggy and Sweet Lou.

Thoughts?
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Post#1108 » by PH1LLYSFINEST13 » Mon May 9, 2011 9:43 pm

SoCAL24 wrote:Pau Gasol for Iggy and Sweet Lou.

Thoughts?


Pau for Iggy straight up is my thoughts.
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Post#1109 » by Gus McCrae » Mon May 9, 2011 9:46 pm

Pau and Odom for Iggy and Jrue :)
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Post#1110 » by KrazySixersD » Mon May 9, 2011 9:47 pm

as much as i dislike pau... he would be great for this team...even if we gave up iggy and lou for him...

that leaves

jrue
meeks
turner
brand
pau

thats a pretty solid starting lineup.. we would need to pick someone up using the MLE to be that scoring guard off the bench... or add a 3 using the MLE and kick meeks to the bench..we need more than just thad and hawes off the bench
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Post#1111 » by PH1LLYSFINEST13 » Mon May 9, 2011 9:50 pm

SoCAL24 wrote:Pau and Odom for Iggy and Jrue :)



I know its legal over there but dont post dumb trades while not in a stable frame of mind.
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Post#1112 » by SouthJersey » Mon May 9, 2011 9:53 pm

O man, I might consider Odom and Pau for Jrue and Iggy. Ourfront court would be huge, we could be the Mavericks of the East.
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Post#1113 » by Gus McCrae » Mon May 9, 2011 9:54 pm

PH1LLYSFINEST13 wrote:
SoCAL24 wrote:Pau and Odom for Iggy and Jrue :)



I know its legal over there but dont post dumb trades while not in a stable frame of mind.


huh?
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Post#1114 » by KrazySixersD » Mon May 9, 2011 9:55 pm

no... im not trading jrue for any player whose over 30
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Post#1115 » by PH1LLYSFINEST13 » Mon May 9, 2011 9:55 pm

You must be off your rocker! How old are those 2 dudes...31 and 31 and Jrue is 20...plus if you trade him who is our PG? Lou...hell No , we been down that road already.
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Post#1116 » by PH1LLYSFINEST13 » Mon May 9, 2011 9:59 pm

SoCAL24 wrote:
PH1LLYSFINEST13 wrote:
SoCAL24 wrote:Pau and Odom for Iggy and Jrue :)



I know its legal over there but dont post dumb trades while not in a stable frame of mind.


huh?


Meaning you must be high to think we would do that.
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Post#1117 » by Gus McCrae » Mon May 9, 2011 10:02 pm

PH1LLYSFINEST13 wrote:You must be off your rocker! How old are those 2 dudes...31 and 31 and Jrue is 20...plus if you trade him who is our PG? Lou...hell No , we been down that road already.


well we just won 2 rings with those guys with Derek Fisher as our PG. Sweet Lou is better than D-Fish and Brand is better than Bynum was the last 2 postseasons. Plus you have Young whos better than Ariza or Artest. You'd basically have the best frontline in the NBA at the expense of Jrue, who will probably never be a top 5 point guard, I love him, but that's probably a true statement. I don't think it's that unrealistic of a trade and I bet more than 50% of Laker fans wouldn't do it.

Anyways, not trying to troll just getting a feel of if either of those trades would be considered and it sounds like they wouldn't. All good. Good luck next year
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Post#1118 » by SouthJersey » Mon May 9, 2011 10:05 pm

People on this board think Jrue is the savior of this team. They do not see his limitations and think he will be a complete PG, even though the chances of him becoming a top 5 PG are slim.

I think he's a very good player, but lacks composer and makes poor decisions when asked to run the team.
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Post#1119 » by PH1LLYSFINEST13 » Mon May 9, 2011 10:16 pm

SoCAL24 wrote:
PH1LLYSFINEST13 wrote:You must be off your rocker! How old are those 2 dudes...31 and 31 and Jrue is 20...plus if you trade him who is our PG? Lou...hell No , we been down that road already.


well we just won 2 rings with those guys with Derek Fisher as our PG. Sweet Lou is better than D-Fish and Brand is better than Bynum was the last 2 postseasons. Plus you have Young whos better than Ariza or Artest. You'd basically have the best frontline in the NBA at the expense of Jrue, who will probably never be a top 5 point guard, I love him, but that's probably a true statement. I don't think it's that unrealistic of a trade and I bet more than 50% of Laker fans wouldn't do it.

Anyways, not trying to troll just getting a feel of if either of those trades would be considered and it sounds like they wouldn't. All good. Good luck next year


Allow me to disect your post...First off you didnt just win 2 rings with those guys , you actually just got swept. We know Lou is better than D fish , But Jrue is better than both of them. Brand could NOT have been better than bynum the last 2 postseasons seeing as how we didnt have a postseason last year.
Its not a matter of Jrue becoming a top 5 point guard in the NBA , its a matter of losing out on a pretty solid player who is only 20 and not having anybody YOUNG and GOOD to distribute. We are rebuilding , so adding fisher who is like 36 , would go against everything we are trying to do. Im not trying to bash or anything , but that trade is very illogical when you look at it and the direction both teams are heading.
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Post#1120 » by Gus McCrae » Mon May 9, 2011 10:26 pm

I'm not talking about adding Fisher? And Odom and Gasol were the 2nd and 3rd best (although all of realgm would argue Gasol was our mvp) players on those 3 finals runs. You are also correct we got swept in the 2nd round this year for what could be a ton of different reasons. I think anyone would argue our team was more talented than the Mavs but whether it was our guys being tired or lockerroom issues it didnt' translate at all.

I'm just saying I don' think it is that illogical. You can go two different paths:
1) continue to develope young talent (even though brand is anything but young) and tread water in the east.
or
2) trade some of that young talent for win now players and trot out a lineup of bigs that is the best in the NBA. Hope Turner developes a bit and make a run deep in the playoffs.

Anyways, it's not that big of a deal. I just thinking you're doing a combination of overrating your talent and underrating our talent. If you want to unload Iguodala for picks and prospects that's cool too. But if you go out and grab a monster front court with the #2 overall pick of 2010 in the backcourt and some scoring off the bench, I'll bet those midseason trades and acquisitions come pretty easy.

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