Boozer does not compete

[Red Larrivee]

This is ridiculous. There is no player in the NBA that's capable of averaging 10 lazy rebounds a game for his entire career.

I don't get it either.

[jl342323]

This is ridiculous. There is no player in the NBA that's capable of averaging 10 lazy rebounds a game for his entire career.

I don't get it either.

me too. i just dont see it. they are saying rather than playing defense and rotate, boozer looks for rebounds. do you guys see that?

and i dont get people calling him out for not setting a good screen. plz tell me a pick n roll player who sets a mean screen

its just ridiculous

[ManualRam]

This is ridiculous. There is no player in the NBA that's capable of averaging 10 lazy rebounds a game for his entire career.

I don't get it either.

its simple. watch how gets his boards.
to him, establishing early rebounding position >>> challenging shots, stopping penetration or completing his rotations. why do you think he gets called for so many defensive 3's? he doesnt want to leave the paint.

[Red Larrivee]

Wouldn't stopping penetration qualify as one of the reasons to not leave near the paint? Either way, there's no such thing as a player who gets a lazy 10 rebounds. Boozer regardless of how you wanna pick it, is an excellent rebounder.

[ManualRam]

Wouldn't stopping penetration qualify as one of the reasons to not leave near the paint? Either way, there's no such thing as a player who gets a lazy 10 rebounds. Boozer regardless of how you wanna pick it, is an excellent rebounder.

yes, which is maddening how even while lingering in the paint, boozer doesnt rotate over. unless you're making the argument that boozer makes proper rotations.
yes there is. his name is boozer. watch him park his ass near the hoop and not rotate over, staring at drives to the hoop, pointing and yelling "jo!" while he's boxing out.

excellent rebounder? where is that excellent rebounding on the offensive end?

[Red Larrivee]

For his career Boozer averages 2.6 oreb's per game, which would be just below the Top-20 in the league. So yes, he is an excellent rebounder at his best.

I'm not making an argument that Boozer makes proper rotations. Just making the argument that it's impossible to get a lazy 10 rebounds per game in the NBA for 9 seasons.

[ManualRam]

For his career Boozer averages 2.6 oreb's per game, which would be just below the Top-20 in the league. So yes, he is an excellent rebounder at his best.

I'm not making an argument that Boozer makes proper rotations. Just making the argument that it's impossible to get a lazy 10 rebounds per game in the NBA for 9 seasons.

boozer is big. hes strong. he can hold his position. if you're a horrible, lazy defender and box out instead of challenging shots, which he's done his entire career, you can maintain that early position if you're strong enough.
im saying, if he made proper rotations or actually challenged shots more often he wouldnt be getting as many boards as he has throughout his career.

do you think boozer gets boards outside of his area?

also, how many times do you see boozer get called for a push in the back on o-board opportunities? now think of the times that he does not. now that is a lazy tactic.

[GetBuLLish]

me too. i just dont see it. they are saying rather than playing defense and rotate, boozer looks for rebounds. do you guys see that?

Boozer rarely rotates. Whether or not it's to look for rebounds is immaterial. I'm not sure how it's possible that someone watching the games doesn't see this, but here's some video. Check out at about the 2:00 mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DypluPy ... r_embedded

and i dont get people calling him out for not setting a good screen. plz tell me a pick n roll player who sets a mean screen

its just ridiculous

Well if you've been watching Boozer has actually set some good screens lately (he just has barely been doing it). Again, I find it crazy that you have supposedly never seen a hard screen but here's some video evidence of this mythological creature:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_Pub9NyZu4

[Red Larrivee]

boozer is big. hes strong. he can hold his position. if you're a horrible, lazy defender and box out instead of challenging shots, which he's done his entire career, you can maintain that early position if you're strong enough.
im saying, if he made proper rotations or actually challenged shots more often he wouldnt be getting as many boards as he has throughout his career.

do you think boozer gets boards outside of his area?

also, how many times do you see boozer get called for a push in the back on o-board opportunities? now think of the times that he does not. now that is a lazy tactic.

All of this sounds too tin foil hatish. I've never heard of a player who gets a lot of rebounds because

1. He's lazy.
2. He's always out of position defensively.

Do you realize how extremely fortunate you have to be to grab 10 boards a game for 9 seasons in the NBA while doing that? Be real. And even with your theory, there are players who close out defensively, contest shots, make good rotations and still average a ton of rebounds. So it's not a given that if Boozer did that, he still wouldn't be a vaccum on the glass. He's always been a good rebounder.

[jl342323]

ah i get it now. you are all convinced by this dude's videos boozer bashing video. did you know he said rondo was the best point guard in the nba? i stopped watching his videos after that. rather than having your own opinion on something, you go with what others are saying. ya'll are conformists. thats all i get from it

[ManualRam]

boozer is big. hes strong. he can hold his position. if you're a horrible, lazy defender and box out instead of challenging shots, which he's done his entire career, you can maintain that early position if you're strong enough.
im saying, if he made proper rotations or actually challenged shots more often he wouldnt be getting as many boards as he has throughout his career.

do you think boozer gets boards outside of his area?

also, how many times do you see boozer get called for a push in the back on o-board opportunities? now think of the times that he does not. now that is a lazy tactic.

All of this sounds too tin foil hatish. I've never heard of a player who gets a lot of rebounds because

1. He's lazy.
2. He's always out of position defensively.

Do you realize how extremely fortunate you have to be to grab 10 boards a game for 9 seasons in the NBA while doing that? Be real. And even with your theory, there are players who close out defensively, contest shots, make good rotations and still average a ton of rebounds. So it's not a given that if Boozer did that, he still wouldn't be a vaccum on the glass. He's always been a good rebounder.

i am being real. the same argument is made for k-love being a stat padder. its not as far fetched as you think. if you are strong, box out instead of challenging shots and completing your rotations, you will maintain your rebounding position.
yes, there are players who close out AND still average plenty of rebounds. those are the ELITE rebounders in the league and i hold them in higher esteem.
to me, being a good rebounder isnt just about collecting rebounds. its about how you go about getting those rebounds, effort on the o-glass and the ability to get boards outside of your area. that is why to me dwight is the ultimate rebounder and why prime KG and duncan's rebounding stats were so impressive.

[GetBuLLish]

ah i get it now. you are all convinced by this dude's videos boozer bashing video. did you know he said rondo was the best point guard in the nba? i stopped watching his videos after that. rather than having your own opinion on something, you go with what others are saying. ya'll are conformists. thats all i get from it

Haha what? That was one hell of a defense. lol

[Irregular]

I heard 670thescore radio say he is playing with 2 torn tendons in his foot, and turf toe.

[Vince Strong]

Because through the regular season he was our second best scorer and rebounder. Maybe he hasn't been as good as you may have expected, but it obviously takes a lot of effort to put up 18 and 10.

i think boozer struggles in the aspects of the game that require effort.

Rebounding?

hell yes he struggles with rebounding. watch the number of rebounds boozer gets uncontested. if he has 10rebs, 9 of them are uncontested. this is something i watch very closely. gibson and noah fight for rebounds. Asik tries to, but lacks coordination. boozer? he loses almost every contested rebound or isnt even involved in the fight.

its 100% true. i used to think he was a good rebounder. like most people, i looked at his stats as the indicator. if you watch closer, he clearly isnt a good rebounder. off rebs per 36min is a great indicator of how good a rebounder someone is. boozer is fourth on the team. - a distant one at that and gets half as many as Noah and Asik. that is telling.

[DanTown8587]

hell yes he struggles with rebounding. watch the number of rebounds boozer gets uncontested. if he has 10rebs, 9 of them are uncontested. this is something i watch very closely. gibson and noah fight for rebounds. Asik tries to, but lacks coordination. boozer? he loses almost every contested rebound or isnt even involved in the fight.

its 100% true. i used to think he was a good rebounder. like most people, i looked at his stats as the indicator. if you watch closer, he clearly isnt a good rebounder. off rebs per 36min is a great indicator of how good a rebounder someone is. boozer is fourth on the team. - a distant one at that and gets half as many as Noah and Asik. that is telling.

Boozer's defensive rebounding percentage is 12th in the entire NBA this season.

Boozer's defensive rebounding perecentage is 4th active (8th all time) of regular rotation players (20MPG with at least 400 games played OR players who average 75 games / season).

You can surely get Boozer for numerous things. But to call out the guy's defensive rebounding is comical.

[HomoSapien]

All I'm getting from this is that Carlos Boozer would be the greatest of all time if he tried.

[Indomitable]

All I'm getting from this is that Carlos Boozer would be the greatest of all time if he tried.

No i actually want him to play team defense. It means rotate and accept a charge. People who are defending him are not listening to the criticism. He been bad offensively and defensively. I just want him off the court if he to inhuried or I will criticize his play.

Defensive rotation is about understanding. Oh and Carlos giving Smith that jumper. Play him for the drive.

[drivewayball]

Isn't it amazing that so many of us are so much smarter than people who are so much more successful than we are ... and are owning and running NBA franchises?

[Indomitable]

Isn't it amazing that so many of us are so much smarter than people who are so much more successful than we are ... and are owning and running NBA franchises?

The same genuis who drafted annd traded LaMarcus Aldridge for Tyrus Thomas.

These guys miss evaluate personnel all the time. A sign of intelligence is to question.

As far as success do you hate your life that much. I pity you then.

[TheGOAT23]

To all my backers.