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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#501 » by 76ciology » Wed May 11, 2011 8:19 am

tk76 wrote:
PK5 wrote:
tk76 wrote:So what would be your top somewhat remotely plausible returns in an Iguodala trade?

#1: Ibaka
#2: Bynum
#3: Bogut
#4: Granger
#5: De'Andre Jordan (on a fair contract)

To be clear, none of them are happening...

#1 Bynum
#2 Ibaka
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -(Significant drop off)
#3 Enes Kanter
#4 Wesley Johnson
#5 DeAndre Jordan (Honestly not all THAT impressed with him)

Semi-realistic trades that aren't happening (Makes sense to me).


Well if you are going throw in Kanter, then I counter with Bismack.


I also like Bismack.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#502 » by SparksFly87 » Wed May 11, 2011 11:10 pm

Andre Igoudala, Louis Williams and Maurice Speights for Greg Oden s&t , Batum and Fernandez
sign Thaddues Young.

Young exciting team who could do some damage for years to come especially defensively.
This trade gets pieces that fit.



Oden / Hawes
Brand/ Thad / Brackins
Batum / Nocioni /
Turner/ Meeks
Holiday/ Fernandez



Well balanced with skill and athleticism and very deep should be a favorite in the west.
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Camby/ Speights
LMA/ Wallace
Iggy/ babbit
roy / Matthews
Lou Will/ Miller
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#503 » by PhilasFinest » Thu May 12, 2011 1:51 am

How much is Oden signed for ?


Aside from that... I'd like that move.
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Post#504 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu May 12, 2011 2:57 am

The Portland trade idea is an awesome one but it's a tough sell on Portlands part. They already went out and got Gerald Wallace because we rejected a trade offer from them earlier no? I seem to remember hearing them offering up Batum and Pryzbilla for him and we said no. They also had an interest in Speights and we turned them down again.
Maybe we could re-open the talks? Obviously Batum (in my opinion) would be the main draw in all of this. I imagine that we would have to offer up Speights as well in order to get Oden involved. Still I just see Portland as a good trade partner for us. Not with acquisition of Gerald Wallace and the emergence of Wesley Mathews (who was off the chain last season). Adding Iguodala to a core of Brandon Roy, Wallace, and Mathews is a lateral move in my opinion for Portland. Maybe they don't see it that way.
I'm just trying to look at trades from both perspectives.
The LAC Chris Kaman trade is the one I keep going back to because it seems as though it's the most practical.
The Clippers are going to have a lottery pick in the draft yet again. Maybe we offer Iguodala for Kaman and a swap of first round picks (say our 16th pick for their lotto pick?). Or try and pry Aminu from them? We would be getting a starting center in return for Iguodala and a lotto pick or a nice prospect (Aminu) along with Kaman. How is that a bad deal for us?
Sixerwillrule poster whined about not getting a prospect in return for AI2 but a trade like this would net a us a prospect in return for him as well as get us a starting center.
Also....Clipper fans seem to be on board with it as well.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#505 » by sixerswillrule » Thu May 12, 2011 3:06 am

They traded this year's pick to the the Cavs. With Iguodala in the mix and everyone else improving, their team could come close to making the playoffs so next year's pick wouldn't be so valuable. Aminu is alright.

I would just much rather trade for a player on an expiring contract who's on court value for the upcoming season is meaningless, with the best possible future pieces attached. The fact that Kaman is still a good player takes away from that.
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Post#506 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu May 12, 2011 3:22 am

sixerswillrule wrote:They traded this year's pick to the the Cavs. With Iguodala in the mix and everyone else improving, their team could come close to making the playoffs so next year's pick wouldn't be so valuable. Aminu is alright.

I would just much rather trade for a player on an expiring contract who's on court value for the upcoming season is meaningless, with the best possible future pieces attached. The fact that Kaman is still a good player takes away from that.


What is wrong with having a good center? Aminu is going to be a decent player. He's athletic as hell and he's got the potential to at the very least be a great defender at the small forward position. He's a prospect at this point with a year under his belt in the pros. Dude is still green as can be.
He's the young piece that you'd want in return with the trade. We would be able to compete while having a young budding team at the same time.
I see where you are going with this. You seem to be looking at it from a cap space point of view where it might put us in a position to sign a franchise player.

I'm looking at this from a fans point of view. Realistically I think this is the best offer we can get.

I've browsed all the forums on here because virtually every one of them has a thread started about AI2. The common reply to acquiring him on all of these forums is that these teams don't want to give up their "go to guy" for him. Or they don't want to let go of their center.
The Warriors want Iggy but don't want to give Monta Ellis up in return.
Houston wants him but doesn't want to part with Kevin Martin or Luis Scola.
It's the same crap on every forum.
The best one I read was what LAC was offering for his services. Everyone wins in the trade and we would only have to see Iggy twice a year.

If we are dealing with Houston I want Luis Scola and Patterson in return for Iguodala and Speights. It's fair value for each team.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#507 » by Point-God » Thu May 12, 2011 3:27 am

That Portland trade is terrible IMO. It's a high risk low reward trade. Iguodala and Lou Williams should be moved only for clear upgrades in talent. Batum and Fernandez are not as talented as Iguodala and Lou. Oden has been a complete bust. If he averaged 25/15/4/4 during the handful of healthy games he played I would take a chance, but he didn't... Oden also has mental health issues...
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#508 » by sixerswillrule » Thu May 12, 2011 4:17 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
sixerswillrule wrote:They traded this year's pick to the the Cavs. With Iguodala in the mix and everyone else improving, their team could come close to making the playoffs so next year's pick wouldn't be so valuable. Aminu is alright.

I would just much rather trade for a player on an expiring contract who's on court value for the upcoming season is meaningless, with the best possible future pieces attached. The fact that Kaman is still a good player takes away from that.


What is wrong with having a good center?


I'm saying that because he has value as a player right now, it means less value will be attached to him in a trade for Iguodala.
I would prefer an insignificant player with better a prospect/pick than a good veteran with a lesser prospect/pick. That's all.
I don't see the need in getting a good, older veteran in a deal for Iguodala only to help us maintain mediocrity in the short-term. Trading Iguodala means we're looking ahead to the long-term because he's our best player in the short-term, and if that was our #1 concern then we would just keep him.
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Post#509 » by Bensational » Thu May 12, 2011 8:05 am

since C's rank high on your lists, how do you guys value lesser known names, such as:

Nene
Okafor
Darko
Biedrins
Hayes
Gortat


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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#510 » by corwin » Thu May 12, 2011 11:20 am

Houston fans love Chuck Hayes but he's too short to be on that list as a starting center. Gortat would be perfect but he's not being moved. Biedrins is negative value. Okafor & Darko would improve the team but I'm not sure how much..
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Post#511 » by SJSF » Thu May 12, 2011 12:46 pm

Still am annoyed we didnt move Iggy to the Magic for Gortat and Pietrus. Gortat had a good year.
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Post#512 » by PhilasFinest » Thu May 12, 2011 1:10 pm

Would anyone take Wesley Johnson and Darko from Minnesota for Dre?



We'd shed a few dollars... Add a young prospect in Johnson who could potentially fit in with our "core" and while Darko is no stud... He's one of re better shot blocking 5's in the league and signed to a relatively cheap deal(4 Mil a year)

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Williams-Meeks-Draft Pick-Young-Hawes/Speights
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Post#513 » by Point-God » Thu May 12, 2011 1:14 pm

People around here didn't want Gortat after the game he started for Dwight where Bogut completely dominated him. That wasn't a good sign that he could succeed as a starter. His success in Phoenix isn't assuring to me like it would have been if he succeeded elsewhere because Steve Nash and that franchise have a way of making guys play at an artificially high level like adding MSG to food as a flavor enhancer.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#514 » by Point-God » Thu May 12, 2011 1:16 pm

Wesley Johnson will be turning 24 in July and he's currently a bum, no thanx to bringing him aboard.
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Post#515 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu May 12, 2011 3:40 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:Would anyone take Wesley Johnson and Darko from Minnesota for Dre?



We'd shed a few dollars... Add a young prospect in Johnson who could potentially fit in with our "core" and while Darko is no stud... He's one of re better shot blocking 5's in the league and signed to a relatively cheap deal(4 Mil a year)

Holiday-Turner-Johnson-Brand-Milicic
Williams-Meeks-Draft Pick-Young-Hawes/Speights


I do not like Wesley Johnson at all. I didn't like him in college and I certainly have not liked him as a pro. Crazy as is sounds to some people I would rather get Beasley/Darko in return for Iguodala. Beasley would be the scorer we need and he's got a decent outside game as well. Darko probably had his best year as a pro last season and at this point I think the best one could hope for from him would be as a role playing center on a good team. Dude can block some shots and he does have some game to him. I would do that trade but it would be a major risk for us because of Beasley.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#516 » by SJSF » Thu May 12, 2011 4:28 pm

Point-God wrote:People around here didn't want Gortat after the game he started for Dwight where Bogut completely dominated him. That wasn't a good sign that he could succeed as a starter. His success in Phoenix isn't assuring to me like it would have been if he succeeded elsewhere because Steve Nash and that franchise have a way of making guys play at an artificially high level like adding MSG to food as a flavor enhancer.



So your saying the fact that he was actually playing more minutes and not sitting behind the best center in the league had nothing to do with his numbers? Gortat the last 5 games of the year averaged 18 and 10. Not bad for a guy even though he plays in Phoenix. I guess Amare numbers in in Phoenix were do to Nash. Gortat is a solid center signed to a good contract. Shame we didn't get him.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#517 » by Point-God » Thu May 12, 2011 4:36 pm

SJSF wrote:
Point-God wrote:People around here didn't want Gortat after the game he started for Dwight where Bogut completely dominated him. That wasn't a good sign that he could succeed as a starter. His success in Phoenix isn't assuring to me like it would have been if he succeeded elsewhere because Steve Nash and that franchise have a way of making guys play at an artificially high level like adding MSG to food as a flavor enhancer.


I guess Amare numbers in in Phoenix were do to Nash. Gortat is a solid center signed to a good contract. Shame we didn't get him.


I believe Amare would have found a way to get on the floor in Orlando and wouldn't have been so often buried on the bench.
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Post#518 » by SixerFan4Life » Thu May 12, 2011 8:25 pm

Sixers trade: Andre Iguodala, Marreese Speights, pick #16
Sixers receive: pick #4 (Kanter), James Posey, Dahntay Jones

Wizards trade: pick #4 (Kanter)
Wizards receive: Paul George, Marreese Speights, pick #16

Pacers trade: Paul George, James Posey, Dahntay Jones
Pacers receive: Andre Iguodala

Sixers beat writer said in her live chat today that we might target Enes Kanter in a trade up into the top 5 on draft day. 
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Post#519 » by ratrac » Thu May 12, 2011 9:12 pm

SixerFan4Life wrote:Sixers trade: Andre Iguodala, Marreese Speights, pick #16
Sixers receive: pick #4 (Kanter), James Posey, Dahntay Jones

Wizards trade: pick #4 (Kanter)
Wizards receive: Paul George, Marreese Speights, pick #16

Pacers trade: Paul George, James Posey, Dahntay Jones
Pacers receive: Andre Iguodala

Sixers beat writer said in her live chat today that we might target Enes Kanter in a trade up into the top 5 on draft day. 


Definitely would love that, hopefully there's some truth in it.
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Post#520 » by tgo2223 » Fri May 13, 2011 2:36 am

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