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Re: Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread 

Post#1201 » by WassaWassa » Thu May 12, 2011 2:13 am

Mahorn at the 4 wrote:The is a lot of interest on the Celtics board for Iguodala. They have Green, a lot of expirings in the next 2 yrs & the 2012 clipper pick to deal. Perhaps a 3 teamer.


Too bad we couldn't have traded him for Perkins and filler.

As for the Bynum stuff, any trade for him would have to be a three way because we just don't have what LA wants.
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Post#1202 » by 51X3RF4N » Thu May 12, 2011 3:26 am

Iggy and Hawes for Kaman and Aminu works for me I suppose. Aminu probably fits better with Jrue/Turner and Kaman would go well with Faried (if that's who they get in the draft) once Brand's run is over.
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Post#1203 » by LongLiveHinkie » Thu May 12, 2011 3:42 am

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Mahorn at the 4 wrote:The is a lot of interest on the Celtics board for Iguodala. They have Green, a lot of expirings in the next 2 yrs & the 2012 clipper pick to deal. Perhaps a 3 teamer.


Too bad we couldn't have traded him for Perkins and filler.

As for the Bynum stuff, any trade for him would have to be a three way because we just don't have what LA wants.


Perkins hasn't been the same since his injury dude. You been watching the playoffs?

F Boston, I don't want to make any trades with them. Let them crash and burn with their aging roster.
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Post#1204 » by PhilasFinest » Thu May 12, 2011 3:49 am

hahaha i agree Westbrook.

im still on board for trying to get Al Jefferson from Utah.
Iguodala paired with Favors and Milsap is a much better combo than Jeff,Favors and Milsap all duking it out for minutes....They should be looking to try and develop Favors.

I kno hes not an enormous defensive anchor...but he can rebound, and block shots....and he can score as well as most elite bigs in the league, all while being just 26. Id prefer a move like this, over a Kaman deal...because just having cap space is not enough to land a top star like Paul or D12.
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Post#1205 » by LongLiveHinkie » Thu May 12, 2011 4:04 am

I like Jefferson, but his defense worries me. Everyone here has been begging for a defensive-minded center, but pairing him up with Brand leaves up vulnerable in the middle for yet another year. Well, many years to come actually. Both are locked up for a while. You just can't have Brand or Jefferson on the same roster. We are trying to play quality basketball here. Not just throw together a collection of offensive players on the court like the Knicks did. We saw how badly they failed.

IMO Jefferson coming in means Brand has to go. Jefferson at center would be a disaster. Especially since Iguodala would be gone at the same time, so you are two in the hole losing defense. If you could deal Brand for a defensive center that doesn't have an albatross of a contract after you get Jefferson, then sure. I'd do it.

I don't want Kaman either. Just not a big fan, and I'm worried about his health too.
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Post#1206 » by WassaWassa » Thu May 12, 2011 4:10 am

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Mahorn at the 4 wrote:The is a lot of interest on the Celtics board for Iguodala. They have Green, a lot of expirings in the next 2 yrs & the 2012 clipper pick to deal. Perhaps a 3 teamer.


Too bad we couldn't have traded him for Perkins and filler.

As for the Bynum stuff, any trade for him would have to be a three way because we just don't have what LA wants.


Perkins hasn't been the same since his injury dude. You been watching the playoffs?

F Boston, I don't want to make any trades with them. Let them crash and burn with their aging roster.


Injury or not, I would still trade Iggy for Perkins.
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Post#1207 » by LongLiveHinkie » Thu May 12, 2011 4:18 am

Absolute insanity right there. "Injury or not" you say, I guess you don't care about trading for slow-footed, offensively-challenged big man who wasn't nimble when his knees were in tact. Iguodala is just a better player, and if Perkins was on this team right now you'd be killing the Sixers for this trade going by how he's looked physically in the playoffs. They can't even play him that many minutes because of how he is physically either.

Who knows how long his career even lasts? That injury was no joke.
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Post#1208 » by WassaWassa » Thu May 12, 2011 4:25 am

Westbrook36 wrote:Absolute insanity right there. "Injury or not" you say, I guess you don't care about trading for slow-footed, offensively-challenged big man who wasn't nimble when his knees were in tact. Iguodala is just a better player, and if Perkins was on this team right now you'd be killing the Sixers for this trade going by how he's looked physically in the playoffs. They can't even play him that many minutes because of how he is physically either.

Who knows how long his career even lasts? That injury was no joke.


of course Iggy is the better player but he is also playing the most easily filled position in the league. Its all about the price of aquiring a center. I think from looking at the options discussed in this thread that everyone can agree that its not easy getting a center. Moot point either way as he is not being moved now.
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Post#1209 » by F-Stop » Thu May 12, 2011 11:19 am

I agree w Westcrook - "Boston" never help out your enemy
As for the Utah deal..If avail get it done. Can't worry about the D aspect. If he had that he would not be on his 3rd team. We need interior scoring , Rebounding & D. He brings 2 out of 3.. The trade offers opportunity to Turner/Jrue stepping up. Al can play Center in Philly

I still want Gasol.. I say gut the bench and toss the 1st there way..
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Post#1210 » by Skates » Thu May 12, 2011 2:14 pm

Reading Thorn's comments in the Q&A it is clear that he does not see disposing of one of our most talented players for nothing more than expiring contracts as acceptable. He emphasizedretaining and improving the level of our talent pool, not reducing it.

Trading Iggy for Kaman alone gets you one non-contending year of a decent center. It gets you useless salary relief until Brand's contract is off the books. In othe rwords it depletes our talent pool with no compensating mechanism (like real cap space) to replenish it. Adding Aminu and/or the Minny 2012 pick to the deal makes it more balanced in terms of talent or potential talent.

Al Jefferson is not just 'not a defensive anchor', he is a defensive sieve. He is not a winning player, his stats overinflate his value, quite the opposite of Iggy who's defense makes his offensive stats an understatement of his value. I do not want him. Hell, the T-Wolves didn't want him.

A lot of top teams lost out this year because their athleticism is lacking. This makes a guy like Iggy, who plays the kind of D contending teams need, a hotter than usual commodity this summer in my opinion.

Too many people here undervalue Iggy and for teams already near contention his contract isn't a big deal to absorb. It is overpriced, but so are most and it covers what should be his prime years. Thorn is not going to take a trade just to get rid of Iggy, he is going to get real assets back or keep him.
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Post#1211 » by PH1LLYSFINEST13 » Thu May 12, 2011 4:12 pm

Good post skates. Made some good points about Al Jeff. Got me all inspired to get either Bynum , or Kaman with the minny pick n Aminu lol
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Post#1212 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu May 12, 2011 5:00 pm

Skates wrote:Reading Thorn's comments in the Q&A it is clear that he does not see disposing of one of our most talented players for nothing more than expiring contracts as acceptable. He emphasizedretaining and improving the level of our talent pool, not reducing it.

Trading Iggy for Kaman alone gets you one non-contending year of a decent center. It gets you useless salary relief until Brand's contract is off the books. In othe rwords it depletes our talent pool with no compensating mechanism (like real cap space) to replenish it. Adding Aminu and/or the Minny 2012 pick to the deal makes it more balanced in terms of talent or potential talent.

Al Jefferson is not just 'not a defensive anchor', he is a defensive sieve. He is not a winning player, his stats overinflate his value, quite the opposite of Iggy who's defense makes his offensive stats an understatement of his value. I do not want him. Hell, the T-Wolves didn't want him.

A lot of top teams lost out this year because their athleticism is lacking. This makes a guy like Iggy, who plays the kind of D contending teams need, a hotter than usual commodity this summer in my opinion.

Too many people here undervalue Iggy and for teams already near contention his contract isn't a big deal to absorb. It is overpriced, but so are most and it covers what should be his prime years. Thorn is not going to take a trade just to get rid of Iggy, he is going to get real assets back or keep him.

Admittiedly haven't watched too many Philly games so I pose the question. What do you feel your team needs to shore up on in order to improve?
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Post#1213 » by arkknight1988 » Thu May 12, 2011 5:37 pm

jjtreyball wrote:
tk76 wrote:
jjtreyball wrote:Orl trades jameer jj Anderson and 1st rd pick
Orl get monta Ellis and brand

Gs trades Ellis and biedrins
Gs gets iggy and jj

Philly trades iggy and brand
Philly gets biedrins jameer and Anderson and 1st rd pick
Philly trades away bad contracts & gets nice pieces


Let me guess- you are an Orlando fan :)

Sorry, that deal only works for Orlando. You are hugely over-valuing Orlando's players and late 1st rounder. And Philly has Jrue, why in the world would they want Jameer?
Lol I am magic but warriors fans love this deal and they would be willig to throw some picks and cash at Philly same with Orlando but the trade doesn't have to be jameer it can be Brandon bass and orton and this allows Philly to dump brand and iggy get a solid center Ryan Anderson is a solid young player still on his rookie contract and jameer/or bass would be solid options (jameer off the bench) and bass would prolly start if u got rid of brand idk what do u think about it now?


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Post#1214 » by Skates » Thu May 12, 2011 8:24 pm

Admittiedly haven't watched too many Philly games so I pose the question. What do you feel your team needs to shore up on in order to improve?


The Sixers biggest general needs are defensive size and length, especially on the boards, and perimeter shooting. Solve those alone and you have a 50-54 win team that is a tough out in the second round.

The step beyond that requires an alpha player, something this team does not have. The Sixers could try to build on the Pistons' model, go deep in the playoffs most years and hope to win a championship on a down year for other teams, but realistically they need a superstar to truly contend.
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Post#1215 » by corwin » Thu May 12, 2011 9:16 pm

Summed up well Skates. So the real question becomes "is Iggy traded for "defensive size & length" or for "perimeter shooting" or for both?
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Post#1216 » by Skates » Thu May 12, 2011 9:46 pm

corwin wrote:Summed up well Skates. So the real question becomes "is Iggy traded for "defensive size & length" or for "perimeter shooting" or for both?


Either of those two things or a set of young assets/picks that can be packaged for something bigger. I doubt that trading Iggy can solve more than one problem, but as long as we get flexible assets I'm happy.

I am hoping that some team like Minnesota gets the pick that will land Kantner. Okay, I am hoping Minnesota, which is the only team like it, gets that pick. Kantner and Love are not a great pairing and Kahn (who is also an idiot) wants to improve quickly and has cap room to do it. That could be our big man. No guarantee he pans out, but it would be worth finding out. Expand the deal on both sides to get Wes Johnson, give them Speights and something else, it would be a nice summer.

All just wild guesses, hopes and specualtion until the lottery is over and the new CBA is worked out.
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Post#1217 » by Rashoismydad » Thu May 12, 2011 11:37 pm

Wolves wouldnt give their pick for Iggy. Something like Webster, Darko, #20 for Iggy would be about the value id see MN giving. Saves Philly money, adds a pick, replacement wing, and 7 foot shot blocker.

Doesnt sound sexy, but you guys arent getting sexy back for Iggy. Sorry, he makes too much and it kills his value as a good, bu not great player.
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Post#1218 » by PhilasFinest » Fri May 13, 2011 12:30 am

Rashoismydad wrote:Wolves wouldnt give their pick for Iggy. Something like Webster, Darko, #20 for Iggy would be about the value id see MN giving. Saves Philly money, adds a pick, replacement wing, and 7 foot shot blocker.

Doesnt sound sexy, but you guys arent getting sexy back for Iggy. Sorry, he makes too much and it kills his value as a good, bu not great player.


I think the Sixers would glady pass. The 2 make 10 million combined, add in the 1st and there's really not much savings or value.

Sixers can get better and if not, they'd likely just keep him.
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Post#1219 » by cavsfan58 » Fri May 13, 2011 12:37 am

On cavs forums they are discussing wanting to get Igoudala and a pick next year for the trade exception. Like a guy before said we passed on stoudamire so no hickson for PHI. Igoudala will be traded. Evan Turner showed me something at the end of the year.
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Post#1220 » by PhilasFinest » Fri May 13, 2011 12:48 am

The cavs passed on amare?

Never heard of that.
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