Boozer does not compete

GetBuLLish · Post #921 » by **GetBuLLish** » Tue May 10, 2011 6:49 pm

HomoSapien wrote:All I'm getting from this is that Carlos Boozer would be the greatest of all time if he tried.

Well here's a good summary of Boozer's offense, which involves more than trying harder.

Ron Harper wrote:
BullDawg wrote:
Ron Harper wrote:Does anyone here think Boozer just needs to sit?

I don't.

I just feel that he's been so disruptive on offense. Similar to what John Salmons used to do to our offense. You kind of need him there, but Bulls just couldn't get on a roll with him on the floor.

I like Boozer out there because in the playoffs you are going to need those clean iso buckets. Step up, in rhythm, and knock it down. Keep a nice flow and pace while the D tightens up. Boozer cannot do this anymore. He hesitates (Salmons jab-step anyone?) because he knows and the defender knows that Boozer isn't going to be taking that ball to the hoop. No first step, can't spin, nothing. Just a series of half-shot fakes and a lean back jumper.

And yes, they were falling for him, but it still wasn't the crisp Boozer we as fans were seeing in the regular season (pre January).

I think the writing is on the wall. We go as Rose goes, and as is, Boozer does not alleviate the pressure that is put on Rose. Boozer is a stagnant body on the floor. We need an active player who is going to crash the boards, protect the rim on defense, and get the pace of the game cranked way up.

Rose in the open floor, Korver spotting up, Deng filling...just MOVEMENT. I know it's not all Boozer, but it is Boozer. His positives are not there, and in the playoffs where matchups are key, I ask...What mismatch does Boozer exactly provide...from anywhere on the court?

I do like a healthy Boozer, he's a nice player. And to his credit the last few games he has been on the floor, talking a lot on defense, and giving an effort. It's just not there for him in this series.

And that didn't even touch upon his defense, which is historically bad.

GetBuLLish · Post #922 » by **GetBuLLish** » Wed May 11, 2011 5:33 pm

Boozer had a good Game 5. Nonetheless, Coach Thibs putting in Gibson for the entire fourth period (as well as Asik/Brewer) may have saved our season.

I don't know how much clearer it has to get to see that Gibson right now is our best PF.

BullDawg · Post #923 » by **BullDawg** » Wed May 11, 2011 6:25 pm

Key word is Gibson is playing better right now. That could easily change as soon as the next series. He not should be be starting over Boozer, but I have no problem with him getting the minutes in crunch time if the situation warrants it. Gibson also has expectations on him. If we expected 15/10 we would be disappointed in him as well...

kyrv · Post #924 » by **kyrv** » Wed May 11, 2011 6:27 pm

HomoSapien wrote:All I'm getting from this is that Carlos Boozer would be the greatest of all time if he tried.

Ha ha I just came to post, if this guy can get a double double in not major minutes without competing, you absolutely don't trade that guy. My gosh no. He's way better than advertised (apparently).

jl342323 · Post #925 » by **jl342323** » Wed May 11, 2011 6:35 pm

all i know is boozer is slowly making progress and i expect him to play great. loved those defensive rebounds in traffic. he showed alot of effort in those plays

taj isnt a better PF he is a better defensive player

GetBuLLish · Post #926 » by **GetBuLLish** » Wed May 11, 2011 7:24 pm

BullDawg wrote:Key word is Gibson is playing better right now. That could easily change as soon as the next series. He not should be be starting over Boozer, but I have no problem with him getting the minutes in crunch time if the situation warrants it. Gibson also has expectations on him. If we expected 15/10 we would be disappointed in him as well...

Not saying he should start but he should at the very least be getting 20 minutes a game. And I don't see the fact that Gibson is playing better than Boozer changing anytime soon. Boozer has two torn ligaments in his toe. That's not going to heal for months. Boozer has gotten a bit better since he initially got injured but I don't see him getting his elite December offense coming back. On the other hand, Gibson's elite defense is here and it's here now.

thedarkstark · Post #927 » by **thedarkstark** » Wed May 11, 2011 8:59 pm

GloriaJames wrote:
thedarkstark wrote:So I take it you're a big Ben Wallace fan?

At least Ben Wallace had the excuse of being a hustle player who was just too old to outhustle people anymore.

Boozer should be doing his interviews wearing a bandana over his face and 2 six shooters at his sides, walking off with bags of JR's money.

Yet another dud signing by Paxson.

Just out of curiosity, what was your opinion of Luol Deng in 2009?

My opinion on Luol Deng has never changed.

I was always of the opinion that we should keep Luol Deng and let Ben Gordon walk. I thought we overpaid then and I think we overpaid now. It's not really a big deal considering we're about to be in cap hell for the next decade anyways with Noah and Rose's extension kicking in, but in previous years it handicapped us and may have prevented us from getting Lebron/Wade.

Luol is a very nice peice, but he's making near superstar money when he's not even close to being a superstar. I like him a lot I just wish he'd be more assertive on offense.

GloriaJames · Post #928 » by **GloriaJames** » Fri May 13, 2011 2:29 am

BullDawg · Post #929 » by **BullDawg** » Fri May 13, 2011 2:38 am

GloriaJames wrote:hmm

All Boozer haters should realize that even though Boozer has struggled this is what is capable of. Calling for him to be benched is asinine.

theanimal23 · Post #930 » by **theanimal23** » Fri May 13, 2011 2:46 am

Great performance tonight by Boozer. He's looking healthier, and getting into a groove. Hope he continues it next round.

Ron Harper · Post #931 » by **Ron Harper** » Fri May 13, 2011 2:48 am

BullDawg wrote:
GloriaJames wrote:hmm

All Boozer haters should realize that even though Boozer has struggled this is what is capable of. Calling for him to be benched is asinine.

No one hates Boozer, I've read a lot of objective post calling for Boozer's minutes to be reduced. His minutes were reduced in game 5, and tonight's game Noah's minutes were reduced.

No need to pat yourself on the back after one game, and especially after a Bulls win. Boozer had a brutal series and it was very nice to see him step up tonight and knock down that open J without hesitation. I hope he continues to do so, we will need him to score vs the Heat.

BullDawg · Post #932 » by **BullDawg** » Fri May 13, 2011 2:54 am

Ron Harper wrote:
BullDawg wrote:
GloriaJames wrote:hmm

All Boozer haters should realize that even though Boozer has struggled this is what is capable of. Calling for him to be benched is asinine.

No one hates Boozer, I've read a lot of objective post calling for Boozer's minutes to be reduced. His minutes were reduced in game 5, and tonight's game Noah's minutes were reduced.

No need to pat yourself on the back after one game, and especially after a Bulls win. Boozer had a brutal series and it was very nice to see him step up tonight and knock down that open J without hesitation. I hope he continues to do so, we will need him to score vs the Heat.

Actually yes I should pat myself on the back because if the Bull depend on Taj they are going nowhere because he is simply not capable of what Boozer did tonight. Boozer is the key to a championship. I'm not saying he will keep playing at that level(no player can), but him giving us 20/10 on efficient shooting is possible now. Only the Lakers had a frontline that was superior to Chicago.

Not only did he knock down the jumper, he also dunked with authority and made great passes of the P&R. He looked more fluid and confident overall. Rose and Deng also seemed to have a lot more confidence in him. He is the key.

Ron Harper · Post #933 » by **Ron Harper** » Fri May 13, 2011 2:57 am

Post #934 » by **Rerisen** » Fri May 13, 2011 2:58 am

63 pages on this thread? That is pretty astounding. Even Bogans ones usually only go 7 or 8.

Bulls_Dynasty6 · Post #935 » by **Bulls_Dynasty6** » Fri May 13, 2011 2:58 am

From the last 3 games it seems like Boozer's confidence is back. Game 5 wasn't particularly good for him shooting wise but he was aggressive and wasn't timid when taking the shot. Tonight he came up big. Hopefully this is a turning point for him because we're going to need him for the rest of the playoffs. We'll see.

kyrv · Post #936 » by **kyrv** » Fri May 13, 2011 3:03 am

Ron Harper wrote:
BullDawg wrote:
GloriaJames wrote:hmm

All Boozer haters should realize that even though Boozer has struggled this is what is capable of. Calling for him to be benched is asinine.

No one hates Boozer

Nobody?

So some people don't hate him, they are just role-playing a poster that hates Boozer?

kyrv · Post #937 » by **kyrv** » Fri May 13, 2011 3:04 am

Rerisen wrote:63 pages on this thread? That is pretty astounding. Even Bogans ones usually only go 7 or 8.

Trade Boozer STAT.

Red Larrivee · Post #938 » by **Red Larrivee** » Fri May 13, 2011 3:06 am

kyrv wrote:Trade Boozer STAT.

Uh, you need to stay updated.

Waive Boozer STAT.

Ron Harper · Post #939 » by **Ron Harper** » Fri May 13, 2011 3:06 am

kyrv, you love arguing semantics. go be a lawyer dog. I'm shooting **** on a message board. you know what i mean.

Post #940 » by **Ice Man** » Fri May 13, 2011 3:07 am

Taj outscored Booz per minute played. :wink:

Booz was the bomb, of course. The pick and pop thing is it, no feeding Booz down low when he's static to get stuffed on iso, instead feed him high for the jumper and when he's rolling to the basket on the move. We do that, he shoots and passes like that, I'm a Booz fan.

Bulls had crazy production for the #4 spot today, 33 points, 15 boards, 6 assists. Do that to Bosh, boys. Do it to Bosh.