Time to throw in the towel and Rebuild

[finnegan]

The Jazz were abysmal in the latter part of the season. Trades for talented but high priced players like Iggy or Monta Ellis, will likely not move us into playoff contention and make no sense.

Starting with a young core will allow Corbin to improve his coaching skills along with the players growth and development.

The Jazz should trade their three most expensive players for prospects and draft picks (Al Jefferson, Mehmet Okur, Devin Harris). There are teams out there that would take anyone of these three.

[hoops4life]

I think that Al is still young enough to keep him around for a bit. His contract also expires in two years or so. It isn't anything terrible.

[HammerDunk]

I'm pretty sure that's what they did when they traded Deron? Am I wrong??? We don't need to trade for any more rookies, we will likely have at least 2 rookies and 3 sophs on the team next year. Trading away good veterans isn't going to solve anything.

[StocktonShorts]

I'm pretty sure that's what they did when they traded Deron? Am I wrong??? We don't need to trade for any more rookies, we will likely have at least 4 on the team next year. Trading away good veterans isn't going to solve anything.

+1

I'm really confused by the OP. what part of trading Deron Williams for a rookie and draft picks doesn't seem like rebuilding?

[carrottop12]

Had the Jazz not been rebuilding we would have traded Deron for a more proven player, not 2 lottery picks and Favors.

[finnegan]

Two step logic:

1) Why trade for upper tier players like Iggy or Ellis, when they won't help the Jazz improve enough to be a playoff team?
2) If we are not going to trade for upper tier players like Iggy or Ellis to make us a playoff team, then why pay expensive players (Jefferson, Harris, Okur) to be on a team that is going to be near the bottom of the barrel for the next few years?

I would focus more on young players who have shown potential than the draft, because the draft is such a crap shoot. A team like Indiana might give up Paul George for one of our veterans, because they are in the hunt.

[StocktonShorts]

Two step logic:

1) Why trade for upper tier players like Iggy or Ellis, when they won't help the Jazz improve enough to be a playoff team?
2) If we are not going to trade for upper tier players like Iggy or Ellis to make us a playoff team, then why pay expensive players (Jefferson, Harris, Okur) to be on a team that is going to be near the bottom of the barrel for the next few years?

Al Jefferson is only what, 26? Okur is coming off the books this year. Harris isn't too expensive. Basically I don't see those three guys hindering a rebuild, at least not yet.

[HammerDunk]

The Jazz are avoiding a ground up rebuild. Al and Devin were only on the team for a year, but both can provide some veteran presence. Sap can also, though I think he is probably going to be trade bait sooner than later. Memo is hard to trade, the Jazz are probably going to just have to let him expire.

The only reason a full rebuild has worked for OKC is because they got Kevin Durant. I love Favors and the future he can have, as well as Hayward, but neither of them are Kevin Durant, not even close. If you can land a guy like Durant, you can rebuild completely from scratch around him. Otherwise, you need some vets to bring along the young guys.

[carrottop12]

I'm not sold that favors isn't a Durant quality prospect. Big guys with that type of athleticism, that court awareness at that age are just as rare as a freak like Durant, and the bigs are usually more succesful.

[HammerDunk]

Durant was light years ahead of where Favors is now his rookie season. I don't think Favors is the kind of guy that will take the team on his back and lead them like Durant does. He may be, but I don't see it that way. I think the Jazz can hasten the rebuilding process by keeping some younger vets that can continue to grow with the team.

As I see it, Hayward is more of a leader than Favors.

[carrottop12]

I think people forget that Kevin Durant's rookie season was awful, and he took a lot of flack for the type of player it looked like he might become.

He came in as a rookie and averaged 17 shots a game on 43/28 percentages. Yeah he averaged 20 ppg, but he was completely inefficient.

If you gave Derrick 15 more minutes a night, and more than tripled his shot attempts I don't have any doubt his ppg and rpg numbers would have been through the roof, especially if he was the first option on the team like Durant was where the player who took the next most shots was Chris Wilcox at just over 10 per game.

[Jazzfan12]

I don't see Al as a piece of the Jazz's future. He's only 26, but he has the knees and body of a guy who's in his 30s, I only see him lasting two or three more years at a high level. Not sure Harris is a part of that core either since I think you need stability at point guard and he's always injured and I think you need unselfish players to get young guys touches and to rub off on them and I don't think Harris has any of that in him. I think the core is Favors-Millsap-Hayward with hopefully Evans finding a position in the NBA because I still think he can be awesome. If trading Al and Harris is the full rebuild, then I think the Jazz should go full rebuild.

[Fido]

Had to go read that again. Harris and Jefferson don't really have a future with the team but Evans can be awesome.

[Nate505]

Yeah, the Jazz should throw in the towel and rebulid.

I got an idea! They should trade their all star point guard for some young talent and some draft picks!

[eLo]

I got an idea! They should trade their all star point guard for some young talent and some draft picks!

yea but homie is saying,lets go deeper with hole thing, lets sell all players already worthed something like Big Al and Devin and build new team with core of players age something like ... i don't now 19 some peeps got strange thinking about building the team, about rebuilding it etc.

[Luigi]

I see what you're saying OP.

If we could move up multiple spots in the draft for Harris, I would do it. He's paid too much for what he is, and I'd like to see the rebuild expedited. I would also like to move Okur, but he's an expirer, and you typically get a big contract in return for an expirer. It might just be better to let him expire on our books.

However, I want to build around Jefferson. I think he's worth his contract and has a lot of good years ahead of him. And more important than contracts, I want to see young players get well set in the rotation for development's sake, even if that means losing a few more games.

[ColdBlue]

Right after the DWill trade I would have agreed with rebuilding from scratch, but watching Hayward and Favors grow at the end of the season changed my mind. I want to see what these guys can do next season (if there is one) before trading away more vets for more rookies.

[DelaneyRudd]

If the right deal comes along for Jefferson. Millsap or Harris by all means, but there's no need to accept less than what will improve the team within months and not years.

[Pacerlive]

I know Larry Bird made calls to the Jazz FO about Al and Milsap. I realize it might take a lot to pull them away from the Jazz but what would be reasonable. Would you guys be interested in Hibbert or some other Pacer player for AL. Salary's of course don't have to match since the Pacers are way under the cap.

[Luigi]

Well . . . we could use Granger's shooting. He's another big contract, though.