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Re: 2011 DRAFT blather goes here. Part 3... 

Post#41 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Sun May 15, 2011 5:12 pm

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Post#42 » by nate33 » Sun May 15, 2011 6:06 pm

I'm worried Minnesota might draft Kanter as high as #1. They don't need Irving with Rubio coming over. And they don't really need Derrick Williams with Beasley and Love already at forward. Kanter at center makes a lot of sense for them.

Basically, we won't get Kanter unless we draft ahead of Minnesota.
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Post#43 » by WizTom » Sun May 15, 2011 6:44 pm

That's an interesting point about Minnesota. You could probably say the same thing about Cleveland and Toronto, too. Because while a point guard with the potential of Irving is sought after, neither Minny or Cleve really needs one. Both need a center to complement their line-ups. Even Toronto would love to move Bargnani off the block to his natural stretch-4 position. And is the potential of a probable NBA tweener like Williams really that sought after?

The more I think about it, the more I believe we can't get Kanter unless we pick ahead of any of them. Big men with skills, legit size and good IQs are always gonna be sought after - especially in a weak draft.

However, Sacramento and Utah might want Irving as a long term piece.

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Post#44 » by cavsfan58 » Sun May 15, 2011 7:17 pm

Say by some miraculous chance the Cavaliers get the number 1 and number 3 pick with the wizards at the number 2 pick.... Our first pick that we take would be Derrick Williams... Who would you take or what would you do with your second overall pick?
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Post#45 » by theboomking » Sun May 15, 2011 7:44 pm

Here is an article where Derrick Williams states that his vertical leap is 34 inches.
http://www.pac-10.org/News/tabid/863/Ar ... -of-a.aspx

Williams also noted that his vertical jump has increased from 31 inches to 34 inches since last season. The Wildcats came into the 2010-2011 season after a preseason filled with two-a-day workouts that included extra cardio, work on the leg press and running. “I feel like getting into better shape has enabled me to be more effective on the defensive end as well as improved jumping ability,” Williams said.
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Post#46 » by Rafael122 » Sun May 15, 2011 7:49 pm

I really doubt Minny takes Kanter with the top pick, I disagree. You look at the top 6 teams let's say, Cleveland, Minnesota, Washington, Toronto, Sacramento and Utah - all of them with the exception of the Wizards would take Irving with the top pick.
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Post#47 » by closg00 » Sun May 15, 2011 7:55 pm

Rafael122 wrote:I really doubt Minny takes Kanter with the top pick, I disagree. You look at the top 6 teams let's say, Cleveland, Minnesota, Washington, Toronto, Sacramento and Utah - all of them with the exception of the Wizards would take Irving with the top pick.


Don't forget that we're talking about Kahn here, who knows what he will do. I posted an article earlier where the writer says that Minny is going to trade their pick for a vet.
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Post#48 » by Dark Faze » Sun May 15, 2011 8:23 pm

cavsfan58 wrote:Say by some miraculous chance the Cavaliers get the number 1 and number 3 pick with the wizards at the number 2 pick.... Our first pick that we take would be Derrick Williams... Who would you take or what would you do with your second overall pick?


Give up a 2012 unprotected draft pick + 18th + prospect to get the Cavs' #3 pick to select Kanter.

Realistic version: The same names we tend to talk about at 18th overall.
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Post#49 » by fishercob » Sun May 15, 2011 9:14 pm

Sunday draft musings on several subjects, including a few recent posts:

The nbadraft.net report that the Wiz love Veseley is not troubling to me. we all know Ernie plays it close to the vest; that just smacks of agent puffery. If we end up with Vesely, we'll probably have fallen to 7.

As has been discussed before, I think it's unlikely that we draft three players and they're with the team come training camp. We've got too many young players for that. So here are a couple possibilities:

1) consolidate 18 and 34 to move up. We used the 35 last year to move up from 30 to 23 (and got the 56 back in the process), so I'm thinking our two later picks could get us up to 14 or 13. maybe that's where we get a Markieff or Faried or Singleton.

2) trade out (I.e. trade 18). There are several teams with closing windows who desperately need an influx of youth and athleticism (lakers, spurs, celts, magic) who may be willing to mortgage part of their futures for what the believe to be a final puzzle piece. The C's got a future Clips pick in the Perkins deal. Maybe they'd give that and a future first of their own for 18.

3) combo of 1 and 2. What would a capped out aging contender give for Faried or Morris? We may be able to bank some serious value.

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Post#50 » by hands11 » Mon May 16, 2011 2:07 am

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Illuminaire wrote:I want us to keep him if it's practical, but that could be a very big IF. He's probably the best scoring guard available in either the draft or free agency, and he's young. I'd rather get something for him than watch him sign somewhere else for too much money.

Nick Young has no trade value.

If somebody wants him, they'll sign him with the MLE. If he costs more than the MLE, nobody is going to want to give up a valuable pick only to overpay a one-dimensional player.


Look, they are not letting Nick just walk. They have invested to much and has proven he can play 6-7 SG 25 with amazing reach and a wet stroke.

They will match what is offered.

No one is going to go totally overboard to sign him so what he is offered at worse will be at the top side of what is seasonable. Plus if there is a new CBA, then everyone will be adjusting their offers. Until there is one, that would only put more pressure on teams not to go overboard. That will make him a good keep or a good trade if they decide that after next year.

$3,695,857 if he qualifying. Offers will probably start around 5 and finish at 7 Hopefully they can sign him to 3 years. That would put him at 28 when he can sign another good contract if he blows up.
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Post#51 » by Geaux Wiz » Mon May 16, 2011 2:35 am

I really love both Faried and Singleton and will be stoked if we can get one of them at #18. I prefer Faried but who do you guys think would be better for wiz?
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Post#52 » by hands11 » Mon May 16, 2011 2:43 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:From Washingtonwizards.com


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The Wizards enter the draft with seven players under contract for next season and at least one player to fill every position in their starting lineup. With a well-balanced lineup, there is no glaring need and thus the team will look to stay with the same game plan as last season of taking the best player available to add more young depth to an up and coming team. Of the seven players under contract, only Rashard Lewis is over the age of 25.



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No glaring need ? Really ? I would saw there are some holes.

I like McGee's potential longer term and hopefully that includes next year.
Seraphin is interesting. But lets not act like there isn't a huge hole in the post.
The combination of Dray, McGee and Seraphin shows upside but it is not proven. That is a hole.

This team hasn't had the post situation solved in a long long long time.

We had one player in Haywood but the coach didn't play him enough and he didn't have enough at PF and back up center to make the post a lock.

They have a starting and back up PG
They have a starting SG ( maybe if he signs ) and a back up or two.
Booker and Lewis can handle the SF

The front court is what is still in question. They have pieces but no one have proven they are the long term answer. They don't have a front court unit.

Right now our post is a lot of question marks. I would call that a hole.
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Post#53 » by hands11 » Mon May 16, 2011 3:13 am

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Post#54 » by dangermouse » Mon May 16, 2011 3:41 am

The front court has the most holes but we could do with another good wing player too. This draft will plug a hole or two, next draft and i think we will be well on our way towards playoffs again.
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Post#55 » by Jay81 » Mon May 16, 2011 3:48 am

im starting to buy into the Jan Vesley. Reports are indicating that he is like the European Blake Griffin..a once in a lifetime athlete with developing skills
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Post#56 » by dangermouse » Mon May 16, 2011 4:00 am

Ive only seen a tiny bit of Vesely from Euro games... Blake Griffin??? I dont think so. To me Vesely looks like a SF/PF tweener who doesnt really excel at either position and will have even more troubles at the next level. He doesnt even look like a lotto pick. His cieling imo is probably some hybrid of Kirilenko and Batum.

Speaking of Euros, question to Kanter experts: how is his rebounding game? Thats important for me in taking him with a high pick.
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Post#57 » by Illuminaire » Mon May 16, 2011 4:34 am

I've yet to see a single clip of Vesely where he does anything but run, jump, and occasionally put a ball through the hoop at extremely close range - though he sometimes failed at that too. Does anyone have a clip that makes him look like an actual basketball player? I seem to be missing those.
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Post#58 » by doclinkin » Mon May 16, 2011 10:44 am

hands11 wrote:Anes


I can guess what spellcheck suggested for this one...
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Post#59 » by Ruzious » Mon May 16, 2011 11:59 am

Jay81 wrote:im starting to buy into the Jan Vesley. Reports are indicating that he is like the European Blake Griffin..a once in a lifetime athlete with developing skills

There's plenty of youtube on him. If anyone's watched him and genuinely believes he's anywhere close to Griffin at the same age... find another hobby. Vesely has Jared Jeffries written all over him.
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Post#60 » by Rafael122 » Mon May 16, 2011 12:31 pm

Anyone catch the Bulls/Heat game last night? Bulls outrebounded Miami to death. We need HEIGHT, preferably some skills to go with that height.
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