Official Transaction Ideas thread

[ngcoolman]

I have a question about MLE. What if the Lakers ask Pau to ask his brother to sign with the Lakers, is the MLE possible? He can sign for 3 years, then resign to a new contract then. I'm sure he'll make up the rest in endorsement in LA. Then maybe we can trade Bynum for Paul.

I think Marc Gasol is a restricted FA. Means even if we are willing to pay MLE, Grizzles can match our offer and retain Marc.

[Jajwanda]

Would a combo of Patty Mills-Blake-Mario Chalmers be good enough at PG? There's a PG there for each defensive situation and Mills is an upgrade on offense. On the other side of the ball if the Lakers get perhaps a true solid wing backup like John Salmons I think it might be enough.

[Jetset]

I have a question about MLE. What if the Lakers ask Pau to ask his brother to sign with the Lakers, is the MLE possible? He can sign for 3 years, then resign to a new contract then. I'm sure he'll make up the rest in endorsement in LA. Then maybe we can trade Bynum for Paul.

I think Marc Gasol is a restricted FA. Means even if we are willing to pay MLE, Grizzles can match our offer and retain Marc.

Yeah Marc is a RFA so Memphis has the right to match anything anyone offers. Marc wouldn't play for the MLE no matter how much endorsement he got, because he could easily sign in New York for a contract that is worthy and get the endorsements he would get if he played in LA (if not more).

[The_Trade_Seer]

How does everyone feel about Anderson Varejao? He's a great defensive PF, and a Varejao/Bynum front court would be the best defensive unit in the league.


I'm trying to work on a trade that involves us trading Gasol/Brown for Iguodala and some how acquiring Varejao from Cleveland. Just wanted to know what the general consensus was before I waste my time trying to make a trade for a player no one wants.

Varejo would be nice ... but ... not sure about how good a starting front line of Bynum/Varejo would be as they may not play well together. Whereas Pau can step out and hit the mid-range jumper, Varejo is little more than a hustle guy who gets his points off put backs, etc. It seems the two would keep the land clogged and mess with our spacing on offense ... I see Varejo as a great 6th man but not really a starter.

I think we could easily get Jamison, Varejo and one of the Cavs #1 picks (theirs or Clippers) for Pau and Walton and if that pick could get us a Kemba ... Jamison/Varejo/Kemba for Pau and Luke ... do it.

[Triumph36]

How does everyone feel about Anderson Varejao? He's a great defensive PF, and a Varejao/Bynum front court would be the best defensive unit in the league.


I'm trying to work on a trade that involves us trading Gasol/Brown for Iguodala and some how acquiring Varejao from Cleveland. Just wanted to know what the general consensus was before I waste my time trying to make a trade for a player no one wants.

Varejo would be nice ... but ... not sure about how good a starting front line of Bynum/Varejo would be as they may not play well together. Whereas Pau can step out and hit the mid-range jumper, Varejo is little more than a hustle guy who gets his points off put backs, etc. It seems the two would keep the land clogged and mess with our spacing on offense ... I see Varejo as a great 6th man but not really a starter.

I think we could easily get Jamison, Varejo and one of the Cavs #1 picks (theirs or Clippers) for Pau and Walton and if that pick could get us a Kemba ... Jamison/Varejo/Kemba for Pau and Luke ... do it.

Cavs instantly hang up the phone. They need to get younger (and cheaper, if poss), not older and more expensive. So no, the Lakers couldn't "easily" get that trade.

I do agree that an AV/Bynum front court would be really bad on offense though.

[The_Trade_Seer]

Honestly I would NOT want Varejo unless we could give up Luke as I feel Andy has a toxic contract. The Cavs paid him just to appease Lebron and I believe they would be very happy to dump him for contracts expiring before his.

I agree the Cavs want to get younger and cheaper but varejo's contract is long and bad and I think they would do the Lakers deal in this case.

The sad thing for the Cavs is that so many great collegians decided to stay in school. They could have landed a Harrison Barnes and Kemba Walker had they all come out and their rebuilding program would have been off to a great start with a starting 5 of Kemba/Eyenga/Barnes/Hickson/Varejo ... alas, now they are probably going to end up with a Kyrie Irving and some Euro bust.

[ngcoolman]

Lakers trade: Gasol, Ebanks, Caracter, 2013 protected 1st, 2011 2nd
Lakers get: Curry, Biedrins, Hinrich
line-up:
PG:Curry/Blake/Fisher
SG:Kobe/Hinrich
SF:Artest/Barnes
PF:Odom/MLE (Landry/K. Martin/Hayes/G. Davis/Diaw/Turiaf/Nene/K.Brown)
C:Bynum/Biedrins

Warriors trade: Biedrins, Curry, Udoh
Warriors get: Al Horford, Marvin Williams

Hawks trade: Al Horford, Marvind Williams, Hinrich
Hawks gets: Gasol, Ebanks, Caracter, Udoh, LA's 2013 protected 1st, LA's 2011 2nd

[LAzPhenom]

What do you guys think of this trade:

Lakers Get: Kyle Korver and Ronnie Brewer

Bulls Get: Ron Artest and Derek Fisher

Fisher and Artest provide the Bulls with veteran experience and a lot of playoff experience from Fisher

Lakers replace the inconsistent Artest with a great shooter and the old fisher with fresh legs to come off the bench instead of Shannon Brown

this trade works on espn trade machine

[LAzPhenom]

Lakers send: Gasol and Artest
Lakers recieve: Marvin Williams, Al Horford, and Hinrich

Hawks send: Williams, Horford, Hinrich
Hawks get: Gasol and Artest

it works on Trade Machine

this trade would give the lakers youth, athleticism, and finally a solid pg

Hawks would get a star in Gasol and Artest

Lakers Line Up

C: Bynum/
PF: Horford/Odom/Caracter
SF: M. Williams/Barnes/Luke
SG: Bryant/ Jamal Crawford (MLE)
PG Hinrich/Blake/Fisher

All we would need then is a backup center which we could get by trading Blake, Luke, Fisher, or draft someone decent

Hinrich will finally be the pg that we have been looking for the last 2-3 years, Marvin Williams fits the team well, and Horford brings a young and athletic power forward

do you guys think Hawks would accept this trade?

[The_Trade_Seer]

The Hawks would never trade Horford for Gasol, never ... also the Bulls trade is horrible, we're not giving up our starting PG and SF for two backups to Kobe at SG ... that would be insane.

[LAzPhenom]

The Hawks would never trade Horford for Gasol, never ... also the Bulls trade is horrible, we're not giving up our starting PG and SF for two backups to Kobe at SG ... that would be insane.

Do you realize who our starting point guard and small forward are?
fisher is scoring 6-7 points in 28 minutes and shoots 39%, he is obviously useless and we need to sign someone to replace him

and Ron Artest didn't do crap this season except a couple games
he scored about 8ppg in about 30 minutes and shot less than 40 percent, he is clearly not the same defender he was a couple years ago

id much rather have Kyle Korver starting at small forward who could make some shots rather than Artest, also we need a backup for kobe at SG since brown is leaving

[stankubrick13]

lal out: Bynum, walton, caracter, artest, ebanks, 2nd round pick
lal in: steph curry, varejao, d. wright, biedrins

clev out: varejao, jamison, # 1 pick
clev in: Bynum, walton, Ebanks, Udoh

warriors out: curry, biedrins, wright, Udoh
warrior in: Jamison, caracter, artest, clevelands # 1 pick. , lal's #2 pick

lakers...
pg - curry, blake
sg - kobe, brown
sf - wright, barnes
pf - gasol, Odom
c - varejao, biedrins

we get youth, speed, shooting, and still have odom as our 6th man. i would also try to trade shannon and fisher (then waived) to toronto for barbosa...he and odom would be the good start to a better 2nd unit.

cleveland gets bynum while getting rid of jamison (no need for again vet on rebuilding team) , great prospects in ebanks and udoh, at the cost of varejao and their top pick.

warrior get out of beidrins contract, they get clevelands pick (which will prob be 1 or 2 overall), they take on artest and jamison, but save money by getting rid of varejao. we could throw in our number 2 pick, and caracter.

[Jajwanda]

How about a simple trade to care of the PG position. With Blake clearly here to stay with that contract, the Lakers trade part of their TPE for Johan Petro and their 27th pick returned. Lakers draft Nolan Smith who fits the role of Derek Fisher with his shooting, off the ball play, yet has more ability to drive and dish, not to mention is arguably the best defensive PG in the draft. He's not very young at 22 which is a good thing for a championship run. He's also very good with the basketball, taking care of it very capably. Really the ideal fit and he's played at a good program.

[hoops_32]

Would the Nets do that deal? Seems like to good of a deal for us. I think its more likely we trade a couple of our 2nd round picks to move up into the early 2nd round. That way we get someone with 1st round talent but don't have to pay them guaranteed money.

[The_Trade_Seer]

Do you realize who our starting point guard and small forward are?
fisher is scoring 6-7 points in 28 minutes and shoots 39%, he is obviously useless and we need to sign someone to replace him

No argument here man ... but you need to replace Fisher with a PG, not a broken-shot athletic SG like Brewer or an unatheltic shot-chucking SG like Korver.

and Ron Artest didn't do crap this season except a couple games
he scored about 8ppg in about 30 minutes and shot less than 40 percent, he is clearly not the same defender he was a couple years ago id much rather have Kyle Korver starting at small forward who could make some shots rather than Artest,

I'd rather have Artest scoring 8ppg and giving up 7ppg than a Korver scoring 13ppg and giving up 17ppg! There are two sides to basketball and Kyle Korver as a starting SF in the NBA is a horrible idea.

also we need a backup for kobe at SG since brown is leaving

Yes indeed, and had you said let's trade Brown, etc, for Korver or Brewer to backup Kobe I would have thought that was a fine idea, but you talked about us needing a new PG and then mentioned a trade for two SG'S ... made no sense to me.

[The_Trade_Seer]

How about a simple trade to care of the PG position. With Blake clearly here to stay with that contract, the Lakers trade part of their TPE for Johan Petro and their 27th pick returned. Lakers draft Nolan Smith who fits the role of Derek Fisher with his shooting, off the ball play, yet has more ability to drive and dish, not to mention is arguably the best defensive PG in the draft. He's not very young at 22 which is a good thing for a championship run. He's also very good with the basketball, taking care of it very capably. Really the ideal fit and he's played at a good program.

This is a fine idea ... the only problem is that there is a good chance that Nolan Smith is off the board by the time the 27th pick rolls around. Would you be okay with the Lakers taking back Petro's contract only to have to reach and take a Shelvin Mack or E'twuan Moore 5-10 spots before their value as that is likely to happen in this scenario.

Would the Nets do that deal? Seems like to good of a deal for us. I think its more likely we trade a couple of our 2nd round picks to move up into the early 2nd round. That way we get someone with 1st round talent but don't have to pay them guaranteed money.

The Nets might though Petro is an okay back-up to Lopez. I agree that it's more likely we trade up in the second round ... probably to target a back-up C and future starting PG ... like Benson and Mack.

[Jajwanda]

You're right. It would have to be with Nolan Smith there at 27. On the other hand there's also something else to consider. The Lakers need to have two new PGs if we can't get one do it all guy. They need a speedy guy like a Patty Mills which is not impossible to get that kind of guy but they also need someone to put on Westbrook and Rose. It's been proven though that with those guys, especially Rose your PG is not likely to stand much of a chance against him. You're better off playing a large PG with a very fast SG with great length.

Perhaps draft Malcolm Lee as well as a large guy like a Dmitri McCarney (throw in a David Lighty as well while you're at it). It's not like Lee is totally clueless as a guy to bring the ball up the floor either. You'll just have to have someone else facilitate which is already going to be the case most likely next year anyway.

It's a hell of a lot better solution than spending huge salary again to add say Mario Chalmers for the MLE.

[chefy]

Brazilian Blur anyone?

[LApwnd]

simple somewhat realistic albeit a bit expensive

2 parts....

Sasha TPE for Ariza
followed by
Jack for Blake

Noh-does it with the thought that Ariza salary is dumped, for that price they give up Jack but do get a decent backup in Blake, there is only $1mill difference between Jakc/Blake contract. The savings for Noh is huge if they are looking to sell the team. If need be send Noh Ebanks to replace Ariza, not exact replacement but Ebanks could develope into an Ariza. For those saying Cp3 is going to be mad who gives an F, mofo has plans to leave regardless.

MLE/LLE/Vet min

MLE- these guys I would like to TRY to throw that money at NOT saying we will get but anyone of them would be great
-M. Thorton- great scoring punch, he is what we wanted out of Brown but ALOT better
-A. Affalo- great Defender and solid spot up shooting, can play SG/SF, trio lineup of Kobe/Affalo/Ariza would be great for speed/athleticism

LLE- same deal, these guys are older vets but might settle for the this $2mill exception knowing there's a chance at a ring
G. Hill- solid vet, still big time contributor to the Suns, would be a great Point Foward in spot minutes
J. Prybilla-solid vet C but maybe injuries have taken its toll on him might not be worth much anymore but he wouldn't be needed to play big PT anyways, could be a solid insurance policy
R. Butler-solid shooter if used properly, he had a solid year 2 yrs ago with the clips but fell off the planet recently with his struggles but with 2 post players and Kobe he could get a lot of open looks, our version of JJones of the Heat.

Vet Min
E. House- I hate this mofo and his cockyness but theres no denying this A-Hole can shoot when given space and can heat up quickly, could be used situationally if/when Fisher or our incumbent Jack shots aren't falling
Vlad Rad-same deal with house, more spacing, dont think he'll get big money anymore, either vet. min or the LLE could be enticing to him.

these are minor players but could server major rolls new lineup

Jack/Fish/House?
Kobe/Affalo?/M. Thorton?//Barnes
Artest/Ariza/Barnes/Butler?
Pau/Odom/Vlad Rad?
Bynum/stiffs/Picks

IF the Jack/Ariza scenario is attainable, we could use barnes as the backup SG if however he see this trade and thinks he's no needed he might opt out and leave so be it, MLE should def. be used on a backup SG. These changes gives us floor spacing and speed w/o affecting the core.

[dockingsched]

the hornets cannot make that trade unless they've already traded chris paul.