2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II

[Silk Wilkes]

If Memphis thinks they can win without Rudy Gay how about we give them Bargs in his perfect role?

Bargnani + Barbosa (exp) for Rudy Gay

They get a beasting 6th man plus an expiring which is going to be useful in the new CBA as well as when trying to re-sign their core. We get a young small forward in Rudy Gay who fits our line-up like a glove. For us it's a no brainer, it might be one-sided though depending on how they view Rudy Gay.

[witnessraps]

^^ Well they have Randolph locked up, they seem pretty dead-set on resigning Gasol...so there isn't really room for Bargs there. Way too expensive to come off the bench for that team.

[Silk Wilkes]

^^ Well they have Randolph locked up, they seem pretty dead-set on resigning Gasol...so there isn't really room for Bargs there. Way too expensive to come off the bench for that team.

Yea it's just to bring him off the bench. I know he's expensive but that's his best role imo.

[witnessraps]

so...approx 18 mill a year for Randolph, prob 16 or 17 mill for Gasol, 8 mil for Conley. There will also be teams looking to pay Shane Battier who they most likely want to resign. I guess it's legitimately possible if they think Bargs will shine there off the bench and they feel he gives more value than Rudy Gay. I just can't get over the $44 million frontcourt.

[Silk Wilkes]

so...approx 18 mill a year for Randolph, prob 16 or 17 mill for Gasol, 8 mil for Conley. There will also be teams looking to pay Shane Battier who they most likely want to resign. I guess it's legitimately possible if they think Bargs will shine there off the bench and they feel he gives more value than Rudy Gay. I just can't get over the $44 million frontcourt.

Yea it's really expensive, but if they feel set with Conley at the point they could legitimately succeed with Tony Allen playing lockdown defense against 2's. They may want to keep that second creator though, so it could flop because it would leave Conley to run the entire offense.

[witnessraps]

so...approx 18 mill a year for Randolph, prob 16 or 17 mill for Gasol, 8 mil for Conley. There will also be teams looking to pay Shane Battier who they most likely want to resign. I guess it's legitimately possible if they think Bargs will shine there off the bench and they feel he gives more value than Rudy Gay. I just can't get over the $44 million frontcourt.

Yea it's really expensive, but if they feel set with Conley at the point they could legitimately succeed with Tony Allen playing lockdown defense against 2's. They may want to keep that second creator though, so it could flop because it would leave Conley to run the entire offense.

Conley, Allen and Battier will not get it done as your starting backcourt. Tony Allen also had a really hard time scoring in game 7 vs. OKC. Maybe we can get in with our TPE to give them some cap relief so they can resign OJ Mayo. They definitely want to keep one of OJ or Rudy.

[luenell]

the Grizz are planning to see just how good their lineup is with gay healthy. There not going to just dump him

[bboyskinnylegs]

I'd really like to try and acquire Xavier Henry from them. With Memphis looking like they'll be in a tight financial situation while looking to take the next step to contend, I wonder if there's anything we can work out with them. I think they'll probably want to retain Gay and Battier (probably Mayo too), in which case dumping Henry is really the only other thing that can open up any significant room for them.

Henry would be a great young guy to bring here. He had a tough rookie season, but he's just 20, has good size, length and athleticism, and his main strengths as a prospect were his 3pt shooting and defense.

[witnessraps]

I'd really like to try and acquire Xavier Henry from them. With Memphis looking like they'll be in a tight financial situation while looking to take the next step to contend, I wonder if there's anything we can work out with them. I think they'll probably want to retain Gay and Battier (probably Mayo too), in which case dumping Henry is really the only other thing that can open up any significant room for them.

Henry would be a great young guy to bring here. He had a tough rookie season, but he's just 20, has good size, length and athleticism, and his main strengths as a prospect were his 3pt shooting and defense.

No chance they retain Mayo, Gay and Battier...well maybe next year but beyond 2012 when Mayo's a free agent they'll have to go deep into the luxury tax bank.

[pspot]

Bargs and Kleiza for Gay and Henry

Gives Mem a big man rotation of Gasol, Randolph and Bargs
Kleiza fits into their tough / hardworking mold ala Allen, Powe, Arthur, Young

Gay was a huge part of that team but with them making such a run without him maybe they would be open to moving him especially with that price tag.

luenell is probably right though and Mayo will probably be the odd man out

[witnessraps]

Bargs and Kleiza for Gay and Henry

Gives Mem a big man rotation of Gasol, Randolph and Bargs
Kleiza fits into their tough / hardworking mold ala Allen, Powe, Arthur, Young

Gay was a huge part of that team but with them making such a run without him maybe they would be open to moving him especially with that price tag.

luenell is probably right though and Mayo will probably be the odd man out

Well they made a nice run without him but they didn't pass the second round. He could be that guy that gets them to the next level.

[Salted Meat]

Provided we don't land in the top 3 tomorrow, do you think the Clipps would do this?

Toronto trades Jerryd Bayless, 2011 first round draft pick (4-6 range)

to the

Clippers for Al-Farouq Aminu, rights to Minnesota Timberwolves 1st round draft pick

Clippers get back a better pick than they gave up to shed themselves of Baron Davis, allowing them to draft someone like Kawhi Leonard, and they acquire a promising PG in Bayless, who I don't really want to give up, but is ultimately replaceable, especially in a deal like this.

Toronto gets back Aminu, who still has the ability to improve, and if he does, could pair with Johnson to be a nice SF tandem, and more importantly, it gets the Minny pick, which gives us two likely lottery picks in what is potentially a very strong 2012 draft.

[Rapsobsessed7]

Provided we don't land in the top 3 tomorrow, do you think the Clipps would do this?

Toronto trades Jerryd Bayless, 2011 first round draft pick (4-6 range)

to the

Clippers for Al-Farouq Aminu, rights to Minnesota Timberwolves 1st round draft pick

Clippers get back a better pick than they gave up to shed themselves of Baron Davis, allowing them to draft someone like Kawhi Leonard, and they acquire a promising PG in Bayless, who I don't really want to give up, but is ultimately replaceable, especially in a deal like this.

Toronto gets back Aminu, who still has the ability to improve, and if he does, could pair with Johnson to be a nice SF tandem, and more importantly, it gets the Minny pick, which gives us two likely lottery picks in what is potentially a very strong 2012 draft.

they have bledsoe/williams at PG. I wonder if theres something that could be worked out though i like Aminu and like the idea.

Barbosa + #3/#4/#5 for Foye + Aminu + MIN 2011 1st?

* maybe add a Gomes/JJ swap?

[Salted Meat]

they have bledsoe/williams at PG. I wonder if theres something that could be worked out though i like Aminu and like the idea.

Barbosa + #3/#4/#5 for Foye + Aminu + MIN 2011 1st?

* maybe add a Gomes/JJ swap?

See, I was thinking they might go for it since Willaims isn't a long term solution at PG for them. In fact, if next season is locked out, Mo becomes a rather attractive $8.5 million expiring contract, which wouldn't be difficult to move, especially with a new CBA in place where cap space could be at a premium.

Also, with talk of a potential amnesty clause, the Clippers might just be able to waive Williams . Either way, it would clear up roster space for Bayless.

Bayless and Bledsoe would be a nice tandem at the PG spot for them.

I like what you've added though. I'd give up Barbosa to take a flier on Foye, who would basically become our new scoring guard off the bench. I'd hate to have to do the Gomes for JJ swap... maybe we can just take them out to dinner sometime, and square it up that way.

[Rapsobsessed7]

they have bledsoe/williams at PG. I wonder if theres something that could be worked out though i like Aminu and like the idea.

Barbosa + #3/#4/#5 for Foye + Aminu + MIN 2011 1st?

* maybe add a Gomes/JJ swap?

See, I was thinking they might go for it since Willaims isn't a long term solution at PG for them. In fact, if next season is locked out, Mo becomes a rather attractive $8.5 million expiring contract, which wouldn't be difficult to move, especially with a new CBA in place where cap space could be at a premium.

Also, with talk of a potential amnesty clause, the Clippers might just be able to waive Williams . Either way, it would clear up roster space for Bayless.

Bayless and Bledsoe would be a nice tandem at the PG spot for them.

I like what you've added though. I'd give up Barbosa to take a flier on Foye, who would basically become our new scoring guard off the bench. I'd hate to have to do the Gomes for JJ swap... maybe we can just take them out to dinner sometime, and square it up that way.

maybe something like.

To TOR: C (3rd team) + Foye + Aminu + MIN 2012 1st
To LAC: Johnson + Barbosa + #3/#4/#5
To 3rd Team: Gomes

Bayless / Calderon
Derozan / Foye
Aminu / Klezia
Davis / Amir
Bargnani / C (3rd team) / Alabi

[RocLaFamilia]

assumption: our pick is 6th

TOR gets: Thabeet, Lowry and Budinger + 2011 1st round draft pick (likely 15)
HOU gets: Jose and Alabi + 2011 1st round and 2 round draft picks

[Silk Wilkes]

assumption: our pick is 6th

TOR gets: Thabeet, Lowry and Budinger + 2011 1st round draft pick (likely 15)
HOU gets: Jose and Alabi + 2011 1st round and 2 round draft picks

What's your reasoning because I can't find a reason why Houston gives up Lowry to move up 9 spots.

[3thomas]

I strongly believe we should make a play for this centre in the off seasonl Cole Aldrich. He is burried on the bench behind Serg Ibaka, Perkins and Collision and will not get minutes (and thats assuming the let Nazer Mo go).
He is a good young prospect that was drafted 11th overall last year but given the OKC front court rotation he has no place in it. I've always believed that the solution to our centre problem will come form the draft and I know Cole was in our plans until OKC traded with the Hornets last year to get him.
We have beat them twice this year so they must covet some of the pieces we have I'm not saying give up DD, Amir or Ed or even Barbosa, but maybe someone like Weems in a package of sorts.

[Rapsobsessed7]

If WAS is #2 and were #3 and Irving is their BPA

To TOR: Lewis + Irving (#2)
To WAS: Dooling + Irsan + Maggette + Kanter (#3)
To MIL: Calderon + Barbosa

We take Lewis contract. Was saves 9 million instantly which is their reason to do it. They waive Irsan who's unguaranteed. Get Kanter who they like. Would they do the same deal for Vesley if we drop? I'd wonder. Maybe MIL could add Sanders keeping Irsan or something

MIL gets a backup PG + Scoring

Wall / Dooling
Crawford / Young
SF / Maggette
Kanter / Blatche
McGee / Seraphin

* sign a SF like Young,Green,Chandler

Jennings / Calderon
Salmons / Barbosa
Delfino / Moute
Thompson (#10) / Gooden / Brockman
Bogut / Sanders

Irving / Bayless
Derozan / Weems
Lewis / Johnson
Davis / Amir
Bargnani / C (Klezia) / Alabi

Next year we cut Lewis (10 million guaranteed), draft Miller,Barnes,Gilchrist

Irving / Bayless
Derozan / Weems
Gilchrist / Johnson
Davis / Amir
Bargnani / C

[timdunkit]

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