Official Transaction Ideas thread

LApwnd · Post #561 » by **LApwnd** » Mon May 16, 2011 10:25 pm

dcash4 wrote:the hornets cannot make that trade unless they've already traded chris paul.

why is that? who cares about his FEELINGS, he has made it clear he doesn't want to be there anymore anyways.

Jajwanda · Post #562 » by **Jajwanda** » Mon May 16, 2011 10:26 pm

I would sign Patrick Mills for cheap after that and then proceed to add in someone else such as a David Lighty in the draft to be the backup SG along with Fisher when the defensive match-up isn't a problem. That will give us a little more ball handling on the floor. As far as more expensive SGs I can't see it.

It's not that expensive if you think about it since you really are just switching Blake/Jack and using the MLE. As far as New Orleans fans, they'll say that you want to have Jack in case they lose Paul but that's foolish. Jack is a medium-level PG, a compliment to far better players. The team with Jack in the lineup instead of Paul put up terrible numbers so you can't convince me that with wing players like Ariza and Willie Green they're going to field a feasible team. The difference between Jack and Blake for them in a rebuilding mode would be a maximum of one to two wins upon which Jack has a good shot at leaving for a contender (unless they want to overpay him to stay). Taking on Ariza's salary is no small feat. NBA teams rarely take on that kind of money. We're talking about lottery picks being traded between Cleveland and the Clippers for a 12m exchange. Imagine something on the level of perhaps 24m. I think an upgrade of Jack-Blake is fair as much as the general board will bitch and moan.

Post #563 » by **dockingsched** » Mon May 16, 2011 10:28 pm

LApwnd wrote:
dcash4 wrote:the hornets cannot make that trade unless they've already traded chris paul.

why is that? who cares about his FEELINGS, he has made it clear he doesn't want to be there anymore anyways.

i don't think thats accurate.

LApwnd · Post #564 » by **LApwnd** » Mon May 16, 2011 10:30 pm

dcash4 wrote:
LApwnd wrote:
dcash4 wrote:the hornets cannot make that trade unless they've already traded chris paul.

why is that? who cares about his FEELINGS, he has made it clear he doesn't want to be there anymore anyways.

i don't think thats accurate.

he demanded a trade before this season, where am I wrong at here? In addition he has made several hints about playing with Melo throughout this season to boot.

Post #565 » by **dockingsched** » Mon May 16, 2011 10:32 pm

the part where he denied ever demanding a trade, and the part where he wasn't traded.

LApwnd · Post #566 » by **LApwnd** » Mon May 16, 2011 10:34 pm

dcash4 wrote:the part where he denied ever demanding a trade, and the part where he wasn't traded.

he never denied not wanting a trade, he just said he spoke to mgmt. and would see how things went, and things didn't get better. How does he not being traded not mean he wants out? Kobe wasn't traded and he wanted out.....NY got nothing NOH wanted and they still have 2 years of Paul left under contract. IF he didn't demand trade, why would mgmt. have to sit down and meet with in the the off-season?

Post #567 » by **dockingsched** » Mon May 16, 2011 10:41 pm

"I have been a Hornet my entire career and I hope to represent the city of New Orleans and state of Louisiana for many years to come." Demps (Hornets GM) said afterward that Paul didn't request a trade, and that he's confident Paul will play for New Orleans this season.

http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2010/07/c ... ornet.html

LApwnd · Post #568 » by **LApwnd** » Mon May 16, 2011 10:43 pm

dcash4 wrote:
"I have been a Hornet my entire career and I hope to represent the city of New Orleans and state of Louisiana for many years to come." Demps (Hornets GM) said afterward that Paul didn't request a trade, and that he's confident Paul will play for New Orleans this season.

http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2010/07/c ... ornet.html

and yet rumors were rampant but rumors are rumors and GM would sit and meet with a player just for the hell of. Melo denied plenty when asked bout his request to be traded but you proved me wrong but like I asked you, if a player is satified of his position why would mgmt. feel the need to sit and meet with him way after the season had ended?

hoops_32 · Post #569 » by **hoops_32** » Tue May 17, 2011 12:19 am

What do you guys think about Lou Williams?

LAzPhenom · Post #570 » by **LAzPhenom** » Tue May 17, 2011 12:25 am

hoops_32 wrote:What do you guys think about Lou Williams?

i think he will be a great player for us, but what would phili want?

The Skyhook · Post #571 » by **The Skyhook** » Tue May 17, 2011 1:27 am

Guys on the Philly board said his defense isn't one of his strong points but he has made some improvements since first coming into the league. I've thought about this trade between the Lakers and the 76ers.

Lakers trade
Bynum
Blake

76ers trade
Williams
Iguodala
Speights

I'd hate to trade Bynum but I do think you get some good value in return for him. The Lakers can add a front court player through free agency to help solidify a rotation of Odom, Gasol, and Speights or you can just stick with the trio of Odom, Gasol, Speights and address another need for the bench. I think its going to be hard to sell a team on Bynum if the Lakers are looking for an elite player in return and this would be a good opportunity to deal Bynum if that is an option that management is faced with.

You could also try the same deal but replace Bynum with Pau but I have a feeling that the 76ers would be interested in the younger Bynum. Even if Drew gets hurt again he has a shorter guaranteed contract than Gasol does so it gives them some type of financial flexibility.

chefy · Post #572 » by **chefy** » Tue May 17, 2011 2:17 am

Not a bad trade, it addresses this team's needs. 3 point shooting, youth, athleticism, and Williams would be a good tri pg, also iggy could play pointforwad/ pointguard for short stretches. I'm also OK if we include Barnes, a future 1st pick and then change Speights to Hawes. And then we make a follow up move and sign a backup PF.

Gasol, Hawes
Odom, Diaw
Artest, Iggy
Kobe, Ebanks
Williams, Fish

LAzPhenom · Post #573 » by **LAzPhenom** » Tue May 17, 2011 2:40 am

id much rather do a three team trade so that we could trade Gasol and someone else for Lou Williams and a young and talented starting power forward

i want Bynum to stay and i dont feel like Iggy would fit our team well

LApwnd · Post #574 » by **LApwnd** » Tue May 17, 2011 3:13 am

^^^gota love you "what have you done for me lately" fans.....so Pau has a 1 bad playoff series after playing at a high lvl for the last 3 years, missing very few games minus this season and all of a sudden he is the scapegoat that needs to be traded. While the other guy who hasn't played a full-season for the last 3 years, has a few nice games here and there is all of a sudden should be the cornerstone of this franchise :lol:

....gota love it, so who plays C when Bynum goes on his annual mid-season vacation? He's already going to miss 5gms to start next yr :lol:

LAzPhenom · Post #575 » by **LAzPhenom** » Tue May 17, 2011 6:08 am

LApwnd wrote:^^^gota love you "what have you done for me lately" fans.....so Pau has a 1 bad playoff series after playing at a high lvl for the last 3 years, missing very few games minus this season and all of a sudden he is the scapegoat that needs to be traded. While the other guy who hasn't played a full-season for the last 3 years, has a few nice games here and there is all of a sudden should be the cornerstone of this franchise ....gota love it, so who plays C when Bynum goes on his annual mid-season vacation? He's already going to miss 5gms to start next yr

one bad playoff game? i felt like both rounds he sucked badly, its the playoffs that matter not the regular season, and now that there seems to be problems between him and some others, why not trade him

by trading him we could fill our need for youth and athleticism. It also brings in a point guard. Old teams obviously cant win much now. Its all the young teams, Memphis, Thunder, Bulls, Miami,
hell Dallas probably has more youth.

While old teams like LAL, Spurs, Boston are all getting eliminated early. we are better off trading him now before he gets older and loses value. Are team is full of old guys 30+, Fisher, Kobe, Gasol, Odom, Artest, Matt Barnes, Steve Blake. All these guys except Bynum, Shannon, and some benchwarmers are young

So 7 of the guys in the rotation are 30+, and even if Gasol did play great, i would wouldnt mind seeing him get traded for a player like Lou Williams or any other young talent

LApwnd · Post #576 » by **LApwnd** » Tue May 17, 2011 6:18 am

^^^^read carefully, I said playoff series....just WOW Pau that garbage that Lou Williams is the center piece of trade ideas for Pau now?, so like I asked, who plays C when our "franchise" takes his annual mid-season or the occasional season-ending vacation? :lol:

, and wtf has Bynum done over these last 4yrs in the PLAYOFF to warrant him being our franchise? Had some nice gms against NOH and their midget front court, or 1-2 good game against Dall? please!

initiald · Post #577 » by **initiald** » Tue May 17, 2011 9:28 am

If Dwight Howard isn't resign and Orlando FO is forced to trade him.

We can snap him under these offers that beat out most offer out there.

Ship Pau + Luke to Minnesota for top 5 draft pick, Darko, Anthony Randolph.

Then trade Bynum + Minn top 5 draft pick + Anthony Randolph for Dwight Howard + Bass.

Blake/Fisher
Kobe/Brown
Artest/Barnes
LO/Bass
Dwight/Darko

Personally, I think Dr. Buss is okay with it. We get risk of Luke meanwhile getting a cornerstone franchise player for the future. LO is a legit 3rd option. Defense is great and offense is fine with Dwight and Kobe. More offensive load for Artest and LO, which might be the best thing in disguise.

Jetset · Post #578 » by **Jetset** » Tue May 17, 2011 11:05 am

chefy wrote:Not a bad trade, it addresses this team's needs. 3 point shooting, youth, athleticism, and Williams would be a good tri pg, also iggy could play pointforwad/ pointguard for short stretches. I'm also OK if we include Barnes, a future 1st pick and then change Speights to Hawes. And then we make a follow up move and sign a backup PF.

Gasol, Hawes
Odom, Diaw
Artest, Iggy
Kobe, Ebanks
Williams, Fish

Iguodala/Artest.

LA Forever · Post #579 » by **LA Forever** » Tue May 17, 2011 11:33 am

How is having a bigger offensive load for Artest a best thing in disguise? He plays better now if he just focuses on the defensive end and let the offense come to him.

initiald · Post #580 » by **initiald** » Tue May 17, 2011 11:43 am

LA Forever wrote:How is having a bigger offensive load for Artest a best thing in disguise? He plays better now if he just focuses on the defensive end and let the offense come to him.

Artest is a 20pts scorer. The reason he suffers with the Lakers is we have too many damn options offensively that his offensive talent get buried. In fact, Artest's playmaking seem to disappear because of that. It also brings back his confidence. We all know Artest plays better when he has more offensive touch. It builds rhythms and stays in touch with the team offensive flow. Artest, at time, seems lost whenever he doesn't touch the ball enough on offense. I can't believe I say this, but too many offensive weapons are counterproductive. It's a good deal considering Dwight is not too offensive focus like Pau/Bynum. You're basically trading away 2.0 full-time offensive players for 0.50 offensive player in Dwight.