Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread

SJSF · Post #1261 » by **SJSF** » Tue May 17, 2011 4:27 pm

Iggy for Rudy Gay , not an option per the owern of the Grizzs. Gay is not getting traded. Maybe this will make Gasol available. There is no way they can afford Gay, Gasol. and Zach.

PH1LLYSFINEST13 · Post #1262 » by **PH1LLYSFINEST13** » Tue May 17, 2011 4:58 pm

SJSF wrote:Iggy for Rudy Gay , not an option per the owern of the Grizzs. Gay is not getting traded. Maybe this will make Gasol available. There is no way they can afford Gay, Gasol. and Zach.

I would LOVE Marc Gasol. I jus dont see them realistically getting rid of him. And we cant trade Iguodala for him cuz then they have logjam at the 3 unless they try to run gay at the 4 and play like phoneix used to. To me though , it seems they have gone in the direction of Defense plays.

ProcessDoctor · Post #1263 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Tue May 17, 2011 5:06 pm

I would take Gay for Iggy. If we did do that, then it would be very difficult to trade for a center with the remaining pieces we have. But Gay is an ideal player next to Holiday/Turner at the 3. Someone who doesn't need the ball in their hands and can drive/create his own shot. I would be ok with Iggy, Speights, 1st for Oden (S&T) and Batum. Even if Oden can't go, I think we get a perfect 3 for this team in Batum. If Oden does work, look out.

Portland:

Miller/Mills
Roy/Rudy
Iguodala/Wallace
Aldridge/Speights
Camby

Philly:

Holiday/Williams
Turner/Meeks
Batum
Brand/Young
Oden/Hawes

mcr619619 · Post #1264 » by **mcr619619** » Wed May 18, 2011 6:57 am

^i would that trade for iggy,

76ciology · Post #1265 » by **76ciology** » Wed May 18, 2011 8:05 am

Why would PTB do that deal when they have Gerald Wallace?

Point-God · Post #1266 » by **Point-God** » Wed May 18, 2011 9:51 am

Why is there now so much Rudy Gay talk after the owner stated that they will not be trading him? I was looking for fellow Sixer fans who were proponents of acquiring Rudy Gay a few weeks ago. Not that a trading deadline has passed or anything, but this owner doesn't seem like the type to tell public lies. He said a while ago that they would be resigning Zack Randolph and that's precisely what happened.

I'm actually a little angry that owner went on public record. I would rather have entered the draft with the belief the Sixers had a shot at Rudy Gay.

Al Jefferson and Derrick Williams are the guys currently at the top of my list in an Iguodala trade.

Kova · Post #1267 » by **Kova** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:37 pm

I think we have 2 realistic options for this summer! Both are around trading Iguodala, and getting a center..

1st one is with Minnesota:

Sixers trades: Iguodala, 16th
Minnesota trades: 2nd, Johnson (Webester) + filler

Sixers draft Kanter at 2.

Sixers: Holiday, Meeks, Turner, Brand, Kanter
Minny: Rubio (Ridnour), Iguodala, Beasley, Love, Milicic

2nd one is with Cleveland:

Sixers trade: Iguodala
Cavs trade: Varejao and Sessions (or other filler)

Then Cavs draft Irving at 1 and Valanciunas or Kanter at 4.

Sixers: Holiday, Meeks, Turner, Brand, Varejao
Cavs: Irving, Baron (Gibson, Parker, whoever), Iguodala, Hickson, Valanciunas (Kanter)

We can dream about getting Dwight, but I think those are the 2 most realistic options for us.. What do you think? Which one do you like better?

PhilasFinest · Post #1268 » by **PhilasFinest** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:51 pm

why do we want Session?..any deal with cleveland, id want the #4 for Iguodala.
and no way Minnesota trades Johnson AND 2...its likely 1 or the other.

Point-God · Post #1269 » by **Point-God** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:13 pm

I don't believe Wesley Johnson has legit trade value any longer. He was drafted as an NBA ready player and proved that he wasn't. Now he is just a soon to be 24 year old in July scrub. Fellow 23 year old rookies that only averaged 9.0ppg or greater don't look too good historically.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... rder_by=ws

Wesley Johnson is a bust...

sixerswillrule · Post #1270 » by **sixerswillrule** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:18 pm

Johnson is still certainly more than a throw in at this point. The Wolves wouldn't even do Iguodala and 16th for the 2nd pick alone.

Point-God · Post #1271 » by **Point-God** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:35 pm

sixerswillrule wrote:The Wolves wouldn't even do Iguodala and 16th for the 2nd pick alone.

Are you speaking about the Wolves on realgm or the actual Timberwolves? Unless the Wolves have turned into a cheap franchise, I doubt they wouldn't make that move for Iguodala considering this draft and their current makeup. They get a young vet Team USA member 1st team ALL NBA defender that brings something no one on their roster can offer as well as still being able to add a young player at #16.

sixerswillrule · Post #1272 » by **sixerswillrule** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:40 pm

Both. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

Sixersftw · Post #1273 » by **Sixersftw** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:41 pm

Also they reportedly offered the #4 from last years draft for batum. (much better draft/ much worse player). doubt much has changed

Point-God · Post #1274 » by **Point-God** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:46 pm

I wouldn't trade Iguodala and #16 for the #4. The #16 in this draft combined with Iguodala have too much potential to be superior than whoever is available at #4. The guy at #4 would have to be better than Iguodala and another player. This draft appears to be too weak for that sort of trade. Any guy at #4 would be doing great to become as good as Iguodala.

SJSF · Post #1275 » by **SJSF** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:49 pm

Iggys value isn't that good when it comes to a draft pick. A GM would rather draft a wing player then pay a guy 15m. If we make a trade it will be for a player or two. I think Varejao is a good swap. We get our center/PF that has a decent contract. With the CBA uncertain. and a hard cap coming. Teams don't want to take on big contracts.

Point-God · Post #1276 » by **Point-God** » Wed May 18, 2011 6:01 pm

Varejao isn't good enough, he's just someone that Lebron helped to make plenty of money. There is no Lebron here to cover for his lack of talent. Combine that with his contract and season ending injury, now he is a player with negative trade value. What happens if he isn't 100%? He's a career 7 and 7 player healthy.

SJSF · Post #1277 » by **SJSF** » Wed May 18, 2011 11:10 pm

Point-God wrote:Varejao isn't good enough, he's just someone that Lebron helped to make plenty of money. There is no Lebron here to cover for his lack of talent. Combine that with his contract and season ending injury, now he is a player with negative trade value. What happens if he isn't 100%? He's a career 7 and 7 player healthy.

Iggy isn't worth as much as you think he is. And being able to dump him for a decent center that has a good cap number is what you need to do. Trading him for another bloated contract, especially with the CBA changing, isn't wise.

Point-God · Post #1278 » by **Point-God** » Wed May 18, 2011 11:29 pm

SJSF wrote:
Point-God wrote:Varejao isn't good enough, he's just someone that Lebron helped to make plenty of money. There is no Lebron here to cover for his lack of talent. Combine that with his contract and season ending injury, now he is a player with negative trade value. What happens if he isn't 100%? He's a career 7 and 7 player healthy.

Iggy isn't worth as much as you think he is. And being able to dump him for a decent center that has a good cap number is what you need to do. Trading him for another bloated contract, especially with the CBA changing, isn't wise.

Why are you concerned with Iguodala's cap number? Have a free agent in mind that you want to sign? If not, no need to weaken the talent on the team in pursuit of being thrifty. IMO Varejao is a bloated contract right now. He's due $25 million over the next 3 seasons and he's a bum coming off a serious injury that may render him as a Speights type player that isn't even worth 15 minutes per game.

KrazySixersD · Post #1279 » by **KrazySixersD** » Thu May 19, 2011 7:28 pm

the wolves and pacers have been in talks apparently for the number 2 pick.. granger is a possible involvement.. if hes on the block then we need to be on the phones with them

PhilasFinest · Post #1280 » by **PhilasFinest** » Thu May 19, 2011 8:44 pm

KrazySixersD wrote:the wolves and pacers have been in talks apparently for the number 2 pick.. granger is a possible involvement.. if hes on the block then we need to be on the phones with them

yea...Granger would be a great fit at the 3 spot next to Turner and Jrue....or

possibly using Turner to get him and pair him with Iguodala.